1978 reg number question

b.c

Hi all
Im trying to find out a reg on something I bought registered in 1978 but the tax disc is a bit hard to read and I dont have any other paperwork at the moment, deffo starts with 659 h z(i think) and cant make out the last letter.
I know its vague but im all out of ideas on this one.
cheers

trevorbrady

get on motorcheck.ie and put in
659hza
659hzb
659hzc

etc until you reach your model and colour. at worst it'll take 26 tries

BrianD3

If the car was not recorded as "scrapped" before 1993 it should be on www.cartell.ie Do the free check using 659 hza, 659 hzb, 659 hzc... until you get a match

edit: beaten to it!

welder

If its a dublin car it would prob be C D or E ie: HZC(unlikely I think)HZD or HZE.
This is only based on my memories of back then ,I had a 78 Alfasud that was
FZE and a 78 Kadett that was KZE or were they 79-having doubts now !
Hope its some help anyway.
By the way what is it You bought ?

carchaeologist

You say 659 HZ?
In 78 it could only be a Dublin registration ***NZC TO ***YZC,or,***AZD TO ***YZD,or ***AZE TO ***IZE,no other county had a numbers first allocation with a Z in the letters being used at that time.As in 123xxx

so it could only be 659 HZD,or 659 HZE,as far as i can work it out to.Neither reg comes up on cartell though,so its been off the road for along time if i am right with this...
Hope this helps

b.c

Yeah no luck with trying to find it so far, think it must be hze but I think it was only taxed the once maybe, how would I go about re registering it or getting a replacement log book?

Gary ITR

You can't come around here telling us you have a car from 1978 that's original Irish and not post up a pic of it, or even tell us what it is???

carchaeologist

Onkle wrote: »

You can't come around here telling us you have a car from 1978 that's original Irish and not post up a pic of it, or even tell us what it is???

YEP!!!!

MercMad

If you have a tax disc at all then bring it to the tax office. They should be able to track the serial number on it.

Bitten & Hisses

MercMad wrote: »

If you have a tax disc at all then bring it to the tax office. They should be able to track the serial number on it.

Can they do that with a 1970's tax disc? Even if they could, I doubt that the overworked darlings in the tax office would want to...

b.c

Thanks for all the help, I think ill try getting in touch with the motor tax office and see what happens.
And sorry to everyone who is looking for a pic , im afraid my new classic is of the 2 wheeled variety.
Hope it was ok to post the question here.
cheers

DannyBuoy

b.c wrote: »

... im afraid my new classic is of the 2 wheeled variety....
cheers

Nice how that was kept till last :P

mustang68

b.c wrote: »

And sorry to everyone who is looking for a pic , im afraid my new classic is of the 2 wheeled variety.

Hmmm, whats wrong with the other two wheels? perhaps you should get them repaired, there is a guy who will fix them.....

carchaeologist

b.c wrote: »

Yeah no luck with trying to find it so far, think it must be hze but I think it was only taxed the once maybe, how would I go about re registering it or getting a replacement log book?

How was it taxed only once?Sounds intriguing!!:)

gipi

It has been known for tax discs to be stolen from bike disc holders, so maybe the owner taxed the vehicle but didn't put the disc onto the bike? Just a thought!

b.c

thats why I think it was only taxed once, it was still on the bike after 30 years!

Hifive

carchaeologist wrote: »

How was it taxed only once?Sounds intriguing!!:)

I had a 78 Bultaco Enduro bike that was only taxed for a couple of years.
It was one of several Bultacos used by Bord na Mona staff to drive around their turf cutting operations. AFAIK, when they sold it, it was used for competitions and not taxed. I had the old brown tax book for it.

Actually I still have an old Bultaco trials bike dissembled in the shed which I doubt I'll ever get around to re building. Bultacos were great old bikes, I had loads of them back in the day, Sherpa's, Alpinas and a Pursang Moto x bike which was an animal! Sorry to go ot. Just reminiscing.

b.c

It just so happens its a 1978 bultaco!
Are you selling yours by any chance

carchaeologist

Ah a friend of mine had a few of those,im not sure if he still has them now though

Hifive

b.c wrote: »

It just so happens its a 1978 bultaco!
Are you selling yours by any chance

It's a small world!
I doubt mine would be worth anything much. But I suppose I would sell it if anyone was interested, maybe €50.00?
Its an early 70's Sherpa 250 trials.
Although it was running fine when I took it apart about 15 years ago and the motor still turns over, the rest of it is a bit rough.
The tank, seat and side panels are OK, but I'd say the forks would need a seal kit and a rebuild. Sprockets and chain are well worn and the front wheel is well out of true, also the tyres are obviously shot. Mudguards are knackered too.
I think it's all there except for the rear brake rod and connectors.
The reason I took it apart, was because the threads in the barrel, into which the exhaust pipe securing ring screws, had stripped. The exhaust itself is ok.
Obviously that particular fix was put on the long finger:rolleyes:
I'll take a pic of the remains if anyone's interested.

p.s. I was told the frame is a Sammy Miller replica, which apparently is rare.

b.c

Just sent you a pm

carchaeologist

Hifive wrote: »

I'll take a pic of the remains if anyone's interested.

Do,would be interesting to see it...

Hifive

carchaeologist wrote: »

Do,would be interesting to see it...

Here is the beastie,


spares


engine no


Frame no (SM 168)

carchaeologist

Surely thats worth more that 50quid?!

Hifive

carchaeologist wrote: »

Surely thats worth more that 50quid?!

Bc agrees with you. He had a 6 hour round trip to pick it up yesterday.
I'm just glad it went to a good home. It owes me nothing.
He sent me a pm just now to say he put it roughly back together, put some fresh juice in it and it roared into life after 15 years and a few kicks:cool:
This guy doesn't hang around.

carchaeologist

Hifive wrote: »

Bc agrees with you. He had a 6 hour round trip to pick it up yesterday.
I'm just glad it went to a good home. It owes me nothing.
He sent me a pm just now to say he put it roughly back together, put some fresh juice in it and it roared into life after 15 years and a few kicks:cool:
This guy doesn't hang around.

Wow,i like that,nice to hear hat its running than being unused for years,the term gone to a good home applies for sure here!!:)

Hifive

Hey bc,
Have you figured out how to explain to yer missus how your newly acquired, ancient, dirty, smelly, noisy old bike has suddenly morphed into two ancient, dirty, smelly, noisy old bikes?:p
Mark.

b.c

Hifive wrote: »

Hey bc,
Have you figured out how to explain to yer missus how your newly acquired, ancient, dirty, smelly, noisy old bike has suddenly morphed into two ancient, dirty, smelly, noisy old bikes?:p
Mark.

Thats a tricky one, ill have to have think up a pretty good story to explain this one.
For the moment ill keep it hidden in the shed till im caught:eek: