why is irish radio so bad?

aislingm137

Most of them are really stupid shows too stupid to be funny. many of the presenters have sterotypical views and afraid to think with their own minds or have their own ideas. its all boring all predicatable all i have heard before its like listening to a bunch of strangers chatting together. They dont get people thinking or make them laugh. they dont talk to the audience they talk at them. i was living in canada for a while they had some really good radio stations listening to their discussions and shows would make u feel good to hear it because they knew what people wanted to hear and use their heads too their music that was good.

capedcrustacian

don't get me started!! lol

i grew up listening to South East radio in wexford where every hour is country hour! they take a break on sundays for a couple of hours to play hymns during mass times though. the presenters all seem to be "older" ppl and those that aren't seem to have been taught to dj by the old codgers lol

it seems the only decent stations are the pirate ones, yet, when they get licences, they become boring too, must be somethin to do with licencing regulations i guess

tbh

the majority of commercial radio is bad, I grant you. I'd love a classic rock station, which hopefully is on the way, but yeah - the music stations are generally crap. BUT - i have to say some of RTE's current affairs programs and documentaries are up there with the best in the world. I love The Last Word and a lot of newstalk stuff, so i would say myself that there's more good than bad. The big difference between home and abroad is that you hear a much wider range of music abroad. For example, I'm in Stockholm at the mo, and I heard Iron Maiden on the radio today. Iron Maiden! I know it's not to everyone's taste, but imo if you don't like top 40 music, you've very little to choose from. (phantom excepted, but sometimes I think they go out of their way to find obscure bands to play)

ronnie3585

tbh wrote: »

I'd love a classic rock station, which hopefully is on the way

Do elaborate?

tbh

I heard that there was a classic rock license on the way, but maybe that was just for dublin - let me have a look


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http://www.bci.ie/news_information/press186.html


Press Releases 2008

MAY 23rd 2008





BCI RECEIVES THREE APPLICATIONS FOR NEW
CLASSIC ROCK LICENCE







The Broadcasting Commission of Ireland (BCI) has today (May 23rd) announced the receipt of three applications for the provision of a new classic rock service for Dublin City and County and the Commuter belt.



The proposed station names and contact details for each of the applicant groups are listed below.




Classic Rock Broadcasting Service:



Proposed Station Name


Company Name and Address


Public Contact Name
and Details

CLASSIC ROCK RADIO


East Coast Digital Media Limited,
Radio Centre,
Killarney Road,
Bray,
Co. Wicklow


Seán Ashmore
Tel. 01 524 1481
E-mail: sean@classicrock.ie

RADIO NOVA 100


Classic Rock Broadcasting Limited,
1st Floor Marina House,
Clarence Street,
Dun Laoghaire,
Co. Dublin


Kevin Branigan
Tel. 01 284 4738
E-mail: info@nova100.ie

ROCK RADIO 100.3FM


Dublin Rock Radio (Classic) Limited,
73 North Wall Quay,
Dublin 1


Ger Roe
Tel. 01 888 5151
E-mail: gerroe@phantom.ie





All applications submitted to the BCI will be made available for public inspection from Friday 6th June next. From that date, they can be viewed on-line at www.bci.ie or by appointment through the Commission’s offices at 2-5 Warrington Place, Dublin 2. Alternatively, applications may be viewed at Dublin Central Library, Ilac Centre, Henry Street, Dublin 1.

Bondvillain

tbh wrote: »

RADIO NOVA 100

While all of the submissions are from worthy sources (East Coast has a good business pedigree & Phantom are Phantom) Radio Nova is from the people who were behind the Temporary station 94.9 The Rock, and dammit if they dont know their Classic Rock. I used to listen when I was working in Stillorgan of a weekend, and the shows were top-knotch.
Zep, Lizzy, the Beatles, Horslips, Creedence, The Knack, Dylan, Golden Earring, Argent, G 'n R, Elvis, Rory Gallagher....and many many more

I've read all three submissions because I have no life, and I must admit, while all are solid, I like Nova's the bestest. All going well, the licence should cover Dublin, Wicklow, Meath, Louth & Kildare etc. to varying degrees, with internet streaming for the non-palers out there.

tbh

totally agree there BV, hope they get the gig.

LordSutch

I was here for Nova in the 80s which has proved that 'Irish radio' can indeed be done well, & done in great style, with slick jingles, with professional hosts ............. (feel good radio) at its very best in Ireland )

But since the Nova & Sunshine days back in the 80s, I must say that Irish Radio has lost the plot, its generally very insular, very inward looking, parochial, unsophisticated, lacking any creativity, & just dull.

All newsreaders sound the same, most Irish Newsreaders sound like they are reading Obituaries, so what a breath of fresh air the BBC newsreaders are 'when compared'.

Morning, Afternoon, or Drive time, RTE Radio 1, Newstalk, Today FM, all on the same topic, all with the same 'biased' interviewers', all with an axe to grind, all presenters saying 'In Studio', all reading identical news, with predictable music from predictable bands.

I still dont know why Irish Radio is so bad, but it is

L1011

Nova in the 80's wasn't "Irish radio" so much as "American radio" though... albeit done by Irish people.

However, if you think radio here is bad - just cross the border.

Fago!

Are people just saying "I hope Nova gets it" Just because Radio nova was so good in the 80's?

It not the same station. It's not even the same people behind it.

Personally I think the "Classic Rock Radio" will get it. They have experience in Classic rock format, with stations in scotland and england. Their Proposal looks the best to me too.

Manimal

Camelot wrote: »

I was here for Nova in the 80s which has proved that 'Irish radio' can indeed be done well, & done in great style, with slick jingles, with professional hosts ............. (feel good radio) at its very best in Ireland )

Not this old chestnut again. Tell you what, why don't you actually go back and listen to some of those tapes? All the horrible pretend English accents (and the occasional pretend USA accent too!). **** wages. Everything plagerised from K-R-A-P in ****sville, Orange County. Nova referring to an taoiseach as "The Irish Prime Minister".

Ah yes, dem were de days.

I heard some ERI Cork tapes recently. They were super-pirates? Don't make me laugh.

We should be very grateful for the likes of Nova and Sunshine but they were what they were - and that was 25 years ago.

tbh

Fago_25 wrote: »

Are people just saying "I hope Nova gets it" Just because Radio nova was so good in the 80's?

It not the same station. It's not even the same people behind it.

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we know read the posts:

bondvillan wrote:

Radio Nova is from the people who were behind the Temporary station 94.9 The Rock, and dammit if they dont know their Classic Rock. I used to listen when I was working in Stillorgan of a weekend, and the shows were top-knotch.

tbh wrote:

totally agree there BV, hope they get the gig.

Camelot

Camelot wrote: »

All newsreaders sound the same, most Irish Newsreaders sound like they are reading Obituaries

When you said this I couldn't help remembering... "Radio Kerry has been informed of the following deaths..."

I have to agree with tbh saying that commercial radio tends to be utter crap.

r3nu4l

Today FM and Newstalk are the better stations though! Today FM brought us Gift Grub and while it may be tired (and copied) today, it was the best thing since Dermot Morgan's (RIP) Scrap Saturday on RTE1 (of all stations!)

There is good Irish radio but it's becoming a lot more rare

I am a big fan of BBC Radio 4 in the UK. I can listen to a program detailing Newton's laws and within 30 minutes I'm hearing Desert Island discs, then a while later, I'm listening to the history of Elizabethan sheep-farmers from Somerset

My point? Ireland needs a station like BBC4, dedicated to science and the arts but with a focus on Irish perspectives! We are doing okay but not great at all. As for music stations, unless you like top 40, you are really struggling.

LordSutch

You have hit the nail on the head 'Radiospectively' speaking (thats a new word I just invented) with your last paragraph r3nu4l, but alas I fear it will never happen in our lifetimes

Newstalk was meant to be the New "Irish Radio Five Live" and look how its ended up :rolleyes:

Bondvillain

It may just get a little better from August next year.

http://www.radiowaves.fm/newsart/080909nova.html

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Bondvillain wrote: »

It may just get a little better from August next year.

http://www.radiowaves.fm/newsart/080909nova.html

Could you quote the article? Can't access RW from work ..

Cheers

Bondvillain

From www.radiowaves.fm/newsart/080909nova.html



RADIO NOVA 100 WIN CLASSIC ROCK LICENCE FOR DUBLIN 9th Sept 08

The Radio Nova 100 consortium, which includes businessmen Dermot Hanrahan, Ulick McEvaddy, Maurice Cassidy, Barry O Callaghan and Des Whelan, has won the licence to operate a classic rock radio station in Dublin city, county and the ‘commuter belt’. The licence was awarded by the BCI and the station aims to go on air in August 2009.

Radio Nova 100 beat competing applications from Phantom FM and East Coast Radio, which was being backed by Guardian Media Group, to win the licence.

The consortium behind Radio Nova 100 includes: Vienna Investments, fronted by Dermot Hanrahan, former CEO of FM104, and businessmen Ulick McEvaddy and Maurice Cassidy; Des Whelan, CEO of WLR FM and a shareholder in Beat 102 – 103; Bay Broadcasting Ltd, who operated a classic rock pilot station in Dublin last year and consists of Mike Ormond, Kevin Branigan and Thomas Anderson and Barry O’ Callaghan and Pat McDonagh of Riverdeep.

Radio Nova 100 intends to be a "first-rate and distinctive" station playing classic rock music from the 1960s to the present day and featuring some of the greatest rock artists of all time – as well as news, sport and local information. They propose to employ 32 full and part time staff across programming, marketing, sales and administration and will operate from Dun Laoghaire in Dublin.

Spokesman for the group Kevin Branigan of Bay Broadcasting said: "We are delighted to be awarded this licence. We have put together a very realistic and well-researched proposal for a station that will be the only local operator in Dublin to include the commuter belt region in its franchise area. Our shareholders combine business leaders with experienced radio investors, who have proven their commitment to the radio sector over the long term. We are 100% Irish owned and we have a passion for classic rock music. We will have a highly-experienced management and presentation team with an enviable track record and are very much looking forward to being on air in August 2009."

Jonny Harris

Well whoopeedoo for Radio Nova and Dublin.
I unfortunately live in Wexford with no prospect of a decent FM station on the horizon. Why the oposition to opening up the airwaves to all genres? Are they worried they wont be able to brainwash the people with the cr-p that is broadcast every day or they might lose the 100,000 euros they get from each station on the air? Whatever the reason Ireland is spiritually poorer for not having zenith classic rock on FM 24/7. I would say it is a world class station. Easily better than any other classic rock station in the world!

yobgod

its bad because of the BAI plane and simple
disband the bai and let music rule the air waves again
no news no adds and no sport or chat just good music:pac:

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Jonny Harris wrote: »

Well whoopeedoo for Radio Nova and Dublin.
I unfortunately live in Wexford with no prospect of a decent FM station on the horizon. Why the oposition to opening up the airwaves to all genres? Are they worried they wont be able to brainwash the people with the cr-p that is broadcast every day or they might lose the 100,000 euros they get from each station on the air? Whatever the reason Ireland is spiritually poorer for not having zenith classic rock on FM 24/7. I would say it is a world class station. Easily better than any other classic rock station in the world!

yobgod wrote: »

its bad because of the BAI plane and simple
disband the bai and let music rule the air waves again
no news no adds and no sport or chat just good music:pac:

Why dig up a three year old thread to mention points you have made in plenty of other threads?

It's fairly obvious that you have a problem with the BAI.

Do you have some connection to Zenith Classic Rock? You both seem keen on mentioning it every five minutes. .

Solair

The requirement for x % current affairs is what tends to cause this. Stations broadcast any old nonsense to make up the speech requirement.

Stations are making up speech content requirements by doing things like the death notices, which seem to be on all local stations other than in Dublin and Cork.

proon4

I wrote a blog a few years ago about Irish local radio..It still seems relevant today........
(1) Local IrishRadio presenters . Grrrr . Especially mid-morning talk hosts. They usually are about 45 + trying to sound and act younger. They get up me nose with the condescending and patronising interviewing skills. All of them Mr NICE GUY Mr bloody FAIR MAN. They see everybodys side of the argument. Be assured they would never have a bloody opinion on anything. All of them are "new men" that know there femine side. Of course most of their listeners and guests are menopausal bored housewifes, who are constantly on about menopause, breast cancer, children in need in Bangalore ,and Irish Gael schools. Then of course we get the Z listed 2 nd rate "Chef" who has 25 ways to make chicken soup , most of them would burn water if it wasnt for their kitchen staff. These radio presenters are always "offay" with womens sexuality, yea right.Most of them are basically over the hill sex pervs anyway. ( Think .."Cum fly with me" Cork DJ ) I could tell you a few stories about some of them. Maybe another day. They all have that American radio stock phrases . They are always gonna "touch base with you again ", they are always "offay" with what your on about, and "okay got to hold it there so we can earn some money from our advertisers". There music nearly always contains Bryan Adams, Queen and of course top of the list Fleetwood Mac. On the cutting edge these guys are. They also have the ability to laugh at will. (not that will is always that funny), and can giggle with the same gusto as a load of 16 yr old girls at a sex education class. I blame it all on the government that issued radio licenses to wealthy moronic business men, who know as much about good radio as my arse knows about advanced origma. Ok I'll leave it at that for now and hope to "touch base with you again" very shortly with another grouch. God now Im at it. grrrrr

El Weirdo

proon4 wrote: »

I wrote a blog a few years ago about Irish local radio..It still seems relevant today........
(1) Local IrishRadio presenters . Grrrr . Especially mid-morning talk hosts. They usually are about 45 + trying to sound and act younger. They get up me nose with the condescending and patronising interviewing skills. All of them Mr NICE GUY Mr bloody FAIR MAN. They see everybodys side of the argument. Be assured they would never have a bloody opinion on anything. All of them are "new men" that know there femine side. Of course most of their listeners and guests are menopausal bored housewifes, who are constantly on about menopause, breast cancer, children in need in Bangalore ,and Irish Gael schools. Then of course we get the Z listed 2 nd rate "Chef" who has 25 ways to make chicken soup , most of them would burn water if it wasnt for their kitchen staff. These radio presenters are always "offay" with womens sexuality, yea right.Most of them are basically over the hill sex pervs anyway. ( Think .."Cum fly with me" Cork DJ ) I could tell you a few stories about some of them. Maybe another day. They all have that American radio stock phrases . They are always gonna "touch base with you again ", they are always "offay" with what your on about, and "okay got to hold it there so we can earn some money from our advertisers". There music nearly always contains Bryan Adams, Queen and of course top of the list Fleetwood Mac. On the cutting edge these guys are. They also have the ability to laugh at will. (not that will is always that funny), and can giggle with the same gusto as a load of 16 yr old girls at a sex education class. I blame it all on the government that issued radio licenses to wealthy moronic business men, who know as much about good radio as my arse knows about advanced origma. Ok I'll leave it at that for now and hope to "touch base with you again" very shortly with another grouch. God now Im at it. grrrrr

You can predict the future?

Jonny Harris

elviscostello wrote: »

Why dig up a three year old thread to mention points you have made in plenty of other threads?

I was not on boards until amonthor two ago.

It's fairly obvious that you have a problem with the BAI.

Damm right I do . They are the ones who dole out the licences

Do you have some connection to Zenith Classic Rock? You both seem keen on mentioning it every five minutes. .

The connection I have with zenithclassicrock is a mutual understanding of what makes a great station that plays music people want to hear.If you had any taste (which I doubt you have with a handle like elviscostelloe)you would recognise zenithclassicrock as the best station in Ireland if not the world!

Are you sure you don't have some vested interest as no normal person would be satisfied with the status quo.

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Jonny Harris wrote: »

The connection I have with zenithclassicrock is a mutual understanding of what makes a great station that plays music people want to hear.If you had any taste (which I doubt you have with a handle like elviscostelloe)you would recognise zenithclassicrock as the best station in Ireland if not the world!

Are you sure you don't have some vested interest as no normal person would be satisfied with the status quo.

I have no vested interest. I volunteered in a couple of radio stations many years ago and have a keen interest in radio in general. I may volunteer again some day. That is as far as my involvement in radio goes.

It just seemed odd to me that you kept referring to Zenith and the BAI, and going over the same points again and again. I thought you must have had some involvement as "no normal person" would have that much interest.

I don't think my taste in music has anything to do with it really.

Jonny Harris

I was also accusing ALL Irish fm "music" stationsI can recieve here in Wexford of derelition of duty to put it mildly as well.

proon4

El Weirdo wrote: »

You can predict the future?

Sorry the quote about the " Cum fly with me Cork DJ " was an add on I added in today..but , you got to admit I might not have been far out when I wrote that blog 3 yrs ago

Jonny Harris

Hi Proon4
You had it spot on 3 years ago. It just shows that nothing has changed at all.

easychair

I'm not sure irish radio is so bad, and I suppose the question has to be asked so bad compared to what?

Ireland is beside the UK and has always had to compete with the BBC, which is an unfair comparison.

Where I think Irish radio is poor is in two areas, and both because of the type of programming it generates. In the main, Irish radio consists of either dj's spinning records and trying to be jolly, or on shows based around one individual. Hence Rte has pat kelly, marian finucane, ryan tubridy, joe duffy and so on. Or else it has larry gogan or john creedon etc etc spinning discs. The content takes second place to the presenter, and while there may be interesting articles here and there on teh pat kenny show, for example, these shows are based around the personalities and content takes second place.

Hence these shows are not content based, but personality based. I think BBC R4 is one of the most interesting radio stations due, in the main, to the enormous variety and types of programmes it produces, many of which are interesting and are mostly based on good content, rather than on the personality of the presenter.