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Films that work despite themselves

  • 23-08-2008 3:53pm
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    Closed Accounts Posts: 10,921 ✭✭✭✭


    eg Silence of the Lambs.

    Everything about this movie appears to be lacking. In my personal opinion it's very badly blocked shot and contains a lot of uninspiring and even questionable casting choices (particularily in supporting roles - Chris Isaak anyone?). The director is someone I've never regarded very highly and the original source material quite pulpy. The producer (Dino De Laurentiis) is someone with a track record of mostly bad expoition & 'franchise' type movies and even one of the two main leads (Hopkins) is someone who wasn't exactly a 'name' at the time. Just look at all the components and one could easily envision it being just another average "2 hours to kill" pot-boiler. Yet when everything comes together what you get is a classic thriller that IMHO deservedly swept the boards at the Acadamy awards .

    Has anyone else got examples of movies that 'on paper' shouldn't work yet when the finished product is deliver it turns out to be something special?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 38,247 ✭✭✭✭Guy:Incognito


    Wrong forum by any chance? :)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 10,921 ✭✭✭✭Pigman II


    D'oh :)

    (Feel free to include footy films if you like. Mean Machine and Escape to Victory probably the highlights of this subgenre).


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 38,247 ✭✭✭✭Guy:Incognito


    Pigman II wrote: »
    D'oh :)

    It's grand, sure we can all let the excitement of a Liverpool win get too us from time to time.


  • Moderators, Music Moderators Posts: 35,945 Mod ✭✭✭✭dr.bollocko


    I have to mention Escape to Victory now, to try and bridge the gap between soccer and cinema.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,919 ✭✭✭✭Xavi6


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 38,247 ✭✭✭✭Guy:Incognito


    I have to mention Escape to Victory now, to try and bridge the gap between soccer and cinema.

    Dont forget Mean Machiine.(The Vinnie Jones one)

    Actually why not save this trhread and turn it into a football films thread. :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,958 ✭✭✭✭RuggieBear


    Moved from Soccer(:eek::confused:) forum!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 10,921 ✭✭✭✭Pigman II


    Stekelly wrote: »
    Dont forget Mean Machiine.(The Vinnie Jones one)

    Actually why not save this trhread and turn it into a football films thread. :)

    agreed


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Entertainment Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 16,663 CMod ✭✭✭✭faceman


    Pigman II wrote: »
    Has anyone else got examples of movies that 'on paper' shouldn't work yet when the finished product is deliver it turns out to be something special?

    Hmm, how about Lost in Translation? Not sure, need to think about this one.

    Re Silence of the Lambs, once you watch Manhunter you realise how inferior SOTL is.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 10,921 ✭✭✭✭Pigman II


    faceman wrote: »
    Hmm, how about Lost in Translation? Not sure, need to think about this one.

    Re Silence of the Lambs, once you watch Manhunter you realise how inferior SOTL is.

    I don't rate Manhunter myself. It has the general problem I have will all Michael Mann movies in that they're all mood and no move.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,082 ✭✭✭✭chopperbyrne


    Being John Malkovic shouldn't work at all, but it does.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 163 ✭✭frag4


    Groundhog day
    you'd think that this film would fall flat on its face with all the repeating of the scenes. But what a little gem of a movie.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 30,746 ✭✭✭✭Galvasean


    The Man.
    Has no right to be in anyway funny, but somehow manages to be apretty decent movie.

    Most Michael Bay films have no right to be as entertaining as they are.


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Computer Games Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 30,020 CMod ✭✭✭✭johnny_ultimate


    Any good rom-com: Jerry Maguire, Lost in Translation, Garden State etc...
    They stay annoyingly close to formula, and yet there is something beautifully appealing about them at the same time.

    Probably the genre that has the narrowest gap between good and bad.


  • Moderators, Arts Moderators Posts: 35,742 Mod ✭✭✭✭pickarooney


    The Godfather - a mediocre genre novel stretched out to over 6 hours (part three was just an extended outtake) starring a Marlon Brando who hadn't had a hit in ten years and an unheard of Al Pacino and made by a director most recently remembered for Finnian's Rainbow should never have made it to the cinema, let alone enthrall millions of Joe No-Attention-Spans for decades to come.


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