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Warner Bros offer Batman 3 to Christopher Nolan

  • 22-08-2008 4:32am
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    Warner Bros. has officially put an offer in to Christopher Nolan to have him come back and do another Batman film following the massive success of The Dark Knight. Nolan directed both Batman Begins and The Dark Knight.

    From Variety:

    "There's a deal for the director to helm a third pic, but he has yet to decide on whether to tackle it yet." Warner Bros. studio boss Alan Horn told the trade, "We have no idea where Chris is going with this. ... We haven't had any conversations with him about it."

    Some expect that even if Nolan does agree to do another Batman movie, that he will probably take on another project first.


    Surely he could name his price as well as royalty points and they'll still say yes?


Comments

  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 32,865 ✭✭✭✭MagicMarker


    If he says yes just so he can get a blank cheque then i'd prefer it if he didn't. I doubt he would do another unless he knew for sure he could stay on par with TDK.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,976 ✭✭✭✭humanji


    If he says yes just so he can get a blank cheque then i'd prefer it if he didn't. I doubt he would do another unless he knew for sure he could stay on par with TDK.
    Exactly. He might want to just quite while he's ahead.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,347 ✭✭✭Sean Quagmire


    A third film is definetly needed - and then leave it at that.
    the batman character needs closure and only Nolan can do that, they cant get someone else to sum up nolans genius films. it would stick out of the series like a sore thumb.

    Batman and Nolan have one more in them. it needs to be nolan.





    if not then, Ben Affleck :pac:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,505 ✭✭✭✭DirkVoodoo


    Hopefully they will leave him plenty of time to develop a story that is worth telling and fits in with the previous installments. Lets not have a spiderman 3 style "oh wait THIS is the REAL killer". It wasn't Joe Chills it was Killer Croc, no wait, it was penguin!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,505 ✭✭✭✭DirkVoodoo


    Also, I would love someone to tackle "The Dark Knight returns" after Nolan has finished. I know I'm setting myself up here, but I loved the Batman Beyond series and always thought it had the potential to make a great film series.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,499 ✭✭✭IamMetaldave


    DirkVoodoo wrote: »
    Also, I would love someone to tackle "The Dark Knight returns" after Nolan has finished.

    Defo agree with you there. Would make a super film if done correctly.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,885 ✭✭✭Stabshauptmann


    Surely he could name his price as well as royalty points and they'll still say yes?
    link?


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Computer Games Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 30,019 CMod ✭✭✭✭johnny_ultimate


    DirkVoodoo wrote: »
    Also, I would love someone to tackle "The Dark Knight returns" after Nolan has finished.

    Just finished reading it and would be quite a tricky one to adapt I think. Apparently Zack Snyder has been interested, and Frank Miller has predictably given his approval. We will see...

    I'd definitely agree that if another Batman film is made in the near future, it has to be Nolan (as long as he is able to justify a new film, of course). I'd say with the insane success of the film they will be pushing as hard as possible to get him back on board. But Chris Nolan is one of those few directors who may not give into peer pressure, and if he didn't take it any further it'd be OK in my books. It'll still be great if he makes another, but we'll wait and see. And hopefully he'll make another smaller picture like The Prestige after his post-release rest.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,281 ✭✭✭PullMyFinger!


    link?

    Link to the story?

    As said, it was in Variety.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 644 ✭✭✭FionnMatthew


    the batman character needs closure
    What do you mean?

    The whole point of these first two films is to chronicle the genesis of the Dark Knight.

    Batman has only now become the figure he is in the comics. Only at the end of TDK do we see the Dark Knight at full stature, sacrificing everything for the potential wellbeing of Gotham, signing over his life, his name, his destiny, to the salvation of this city.

    The achievement of Nolan's saga has been to convincingly set out the psychological arc that would result in such a character as the Batman.

    The whole point has been to open up the character of the Batman, an unstoppable force for justice and good, which is completely ascetic and self-denying.

    To force closure on Batman now would be to waste all of that. The whole point of Batman is that there's never closure. His work is never done. He is never properly thanked. By determination, and force of ultimately human effort, he punches through into the company of superheroes.

    His real superpower is his conscience, which drives him through hell for the achievement of good. He embodies divine virtue in flawed human form - a dark angel who will take the evil of the world on himself, rather than let it fall where it may.

    The Batman myth is, ultimately, a tragic myth. Its symbolism rests on the lack of fulfillment, the lack of closure, for its central character, and that being the sacrifice that ensures his success. (This was even explicitly conveyed in TDK, with Rachel being the possibility of his laying down the cowl, and her death being the last point of no return.)

    The other feature of the Batman myth is the doctrine of eternal recurrence: Batman is like Tantalus striving for the golden apple, or Sisyphus pushing the rock up the hill, with the sole difference that he is given heroic purpose in doing so. And so we watch his endeavours knowing that they are ultimately necessary, and the substance of his heroism is that he is the only one with the will power to never give up.

    Remember the Joker's line "I think you and I are destined to do this forever." There should always be the sense in the Batman saga of Batman's character being open ended, never being resolved, capable of continuing unabated forever, like the embodiment of an eternal force.

    The only possible resolution for a Batman character, the only sort of resolution that does justice to this tragic myth is a tragic resolution, such as
    Frank Miller's resolution in TDKR (which he quickly reverses on the last two pages, but not before letting it sink in what the significance of a resolution of Batman's saga would be...)

    We don't need closure at all. If we were to have another film, I'd want it to end on a similar note to TDK or BB. With that open ended, unresolved sense of some eternal cycle heaving into motion, or continuing on its slow, inevitable revolution:

    "I never said thanks."
    "And you'll never have to...."


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 30,746 ✭✭✭✭Galvasean


    DirkVoodoo wrote: »
    Also, I would love someone to tackle "The Dark Knight returns" after Nolan has finished. I know I'm setting myself up here, but I loved the Batman Beyond series and always thought it had the potential to make a great film series.

    Agreed on both counts. Before going with Batman Begins they toyed with the idea of a Batman Beyond film. Wouldnt mind seeing one. Maybe wait 'til Bale is old n cranky lookin'. That'd be great


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,443 ✭✭✭Red Sleeping Beauty


    A third film is not needed. This is the same rubbish that went on 15 years ago with Burton and Keaton - Money is put on the table and a release date is set and the workshops in China are given a big order of toys to make. Funny how history repeats itself in such a short space of time considering.


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Computer Games Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 30,019 CMod ✭✭✭✭johnny_ultimate


    I was talking to someone recently who really liked the Dark Knight, but as a fan of the comics was saying that the fim is still an origin story. And the more I read of the books, I really think he has a great point.

    Batman has the edge over other superheroes because of his cunning and intelligence. He lacks super powers, but he is always ahead of the game. He is able to think ahead, and everything that happens usually transpires to be part of his plan. In the Dark Knight Returns
    he has been manufacturing Kryptonite for years to defeat Superman, because eventually he knew he would have to do so: the battle between the two great heroes was going to be a vital part of the Batman legacy
    . And he is constantly ahead of his enemies: if something goes wrong, it often transpires that it went wrong because ultimately it would give him an advantage e.g. TDKR
    the Soviet missile giving him the opportunity to clean up Gotham
    . And while he is still human and he can still be brought down on occasion, he comes back stronger and more sly than before.

    But in the films, he is only getting to this stage. Things such as the
    Sonar system, or plan to catch the Joker with Gordon
    begin to show his ability to think in advance, and how he is slowly becoming the legendary incarnation of Batman. There are still moments when he lets emotion and anger take over and the enemy seems ahead though (
    The scene with the Joker in jail / the race to stop Rachel from dying
    ). If in a third Batman film he really does emerge as the endlessly intelligent hero, than that is probably the best closure you're going to get: his moral dilemmas examined in the Dark Knight, how he deals and gets over them the central theme of any third film that may come along.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 644 ✭✭✭FionnMatthew


    Agreed 100%


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