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drugs in sport

  • 21-08-2008 6:14pm
    #1
    eunified61
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 92 ✭✭


    How long ,does everyone think, will it be before drug are accepted in sport, and don't say never. Things people thought could never happen are commonplace now.Future testing could be for implanted genes or bionics. I wonder is there gene therapy for athletes going on at the moment. Isn't it funny how far the Americans are off the pace now,maybe they are too stringent


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  • #2
    Amz
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,330 ✭✭✭✭Amz


    For anyone responding to this:

    Please keep this thread civil.

    Please refrain from accusing people.

    Please refrain from personal attacks on individuals.


  • #3
    dr.bollocko
    Moderators, Music Moderators Posts: 35,945 Mod ✭✭✭✭dr.bollocko


    Well they have to be accepted as legal first before they are accepted in sport. So it will probably be a cold day in hell.


  • #4
    eunified61
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 92 ✭✭eunified61


    dr.bollocko wrote: »
    Well they have to be accepted as legal first before they are accepted in sport. So it will probably be a cold day in hell.
    A lot of legal drugs will fail a doping test for sport so your point doesn't stand up


  • #5
    dr.bollocko
    Moderators, Music Moderators Posts: 35,945 Mod ✭✭✭✭dr.bollocko


    eunified61 wrote: »
    A lot of legal drugs will fail a doping test for sport so your point doesn't stand up

    This is true. But then more are prescription too.
    I think some cough medicines are banned too, sudafed and the like.
    It's a little OTT, but in fairness, I think the closest we can get to a level playing field now is far from any kind of fairness for the non-drug cheat athlete.
    Particularly looking at sports like cycling which seem to have doping nightmare after doping nightmare.


  • #6
    Pherekydes
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,201 ✭✭✭✭Pherekydes


    Drugs ARE legal in sport.

    All you need is an up-to-date TUE.


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  • #7
    eunified61
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 92 ✭✭eunified61


    Pherekydes wrote: »
    Drugs ARE legal in sport.

    All you need is an up-to-date TUE.
    Ok what's a TUE


  • #8
    Mr. Presentable
    Closed Accounts Posts: 9,496 ✭✭✭Mr. Presentable


    The OP means performance enhancing. We know through testing that a large number of cyclists take drugs. We know also that drugs are rife through the athletics community.

    So, drugs are not acceptable.

    I would love to see a do-what-you-like olympics. And maybe some day that will happen.

    But generally there will never be an overt acceptance of the use of performance enhancing agents.

    But there is undoubtedly a covert acceptance. For example, how many English Premier League players have ever been tested positive? Are we to believe this is because they are all clean? Or is it because they are pre notified, only a tiny number of tests are done, and the testing is archaic compared with the skills of the dopers?


  • #9
    titan18
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    nipplenuts wrote: »
    The OP means performance enhancing. We know through testing that a large number of cyclists take drugs.


    Do we?


  • #10
    damnyanks
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,276 ✭✭✭damnyanks


    Tour de france???

    I'd like to see drugs made legal simply because people use them at the moment and get an unfair advantage.


  • #11
    Pherekydes
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,201 ✭✭✭✭Pherekydes


    eunified61 wrote: »
    Ok what's a TUE

    It's a Therapeutic Use Exemption.


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  • #12
    titan18
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,027 ✭✭✭✭titan18


    damnyanks wrote: »
    Tour de france???

    I'd like to see drugs made legal simply because people use them at the moment and get an unfair advantage.



    He said a large number of cyclists are taking drugs.That is not true.It is a minority and due to the testing that is going on in cycling at the moment,the guilty are being found out.There was about 3/4 cases in this years tour.Out of a field of 180,that is not a lot


  • #13
    dr.bollocko
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    3 or 4 found. And that is a lot surely?!


  • #14
    titan18
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,027 ✭✭✭✭titan18


    dr.bollocko wrote: »
    3 or 4 found. And that is a lot surely?!

    I d know if you're being sarcastic but no its is not.If athletics had the same testing as cycling or any sport,ye'd find that a lot of athletes are taking drugs.To find 3 or 4,it means that the vast majority of the field is clean.


  • #15
    Mr. Presentable
    Closed Accounts Posts: 9,496 ✭✭✭Mr. Presentable


    No it doesn't. It means the vast majority are not being caught!


  • #16
    titan18
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,027 ✭✭✭✭titan18


    nipplenuts wrote: »
    No it doesn't. It means the vast majority are not being caught!


    Really,does it.The cycling drug testing is comprehensive and it ensures that they are caught.When they can idnetify a drug that has only been on the market for this year,you know they are doing something right.Blood passports and cyclists having to leave them know where tehya re at all times ensures that testing is done all year long, and not just after races.This sort of testing is what all sports need to aim for,and not where you can be training on drugs and not get caught


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