Left ipoker, winnings never been better.

Hank Scorpio

I used to play alot on PPP , and anytime i would build a half decent bankroll i wud suffer bad beat after bad beat. I remember i lost 5 sngs in a row on the river due to runner in a row, i was so convinced i messenged the manager thingy and showed them the odds of my kk aa etc in those 5 sngs loosing 5 times in a row on 1 card must have been about ten zillion to one. So i left.

join partypoker, been playing there for around 3 months and my bank roll have never been as big. Either im staying around the same or im making a bigger bankroll.. Iv never experienced any of these bad beats which i found constantly on PPP and ipoker. on ipoker it got to a point i used to call my brother in to say "look he`ll get a jack" on the river , sng after sng, was just so LOL. Iv not some fool accusing sites either, iv been playing online for a good few years, just happy aswell i dont play on that ipoker anymore!

btw i seen a thread about bout this before and im sure others agree. I just dont trust ipoker at all.

Slash/ED

If you're a sng player get off Party and get onto Stars. The reg Party charge is alot bigger than the equivilent on Stars iirc, so you're losing alot of money if you play a high volume on Party

Hank Scorpio

ye im thinking of playing abit more on party then moving to stars
i used to play abit there but i was very new to poker then.

usually im playing around 30 $ sngs i no it aint alot, but it really does build up your bankroll if u manage to finish top 2 in 8 out of 10 games, especialy with 8/10 way action.

ALOT of fish on party

TripleAce

I also play on iPoker, I have been getting bad beat after bad beat recently, however I don't think for one second that online poker is rigged. I just don't as it wouldn't make any sense. We all notice when we get a bad beat against us, however one day you take it, one day you give it.....

Just last night though I have decided that from today I will keep a spreadsheet of "Bad Beat Given" and "Bad Beat Received" Online.

I will consider a "Bad Beat" any hand that when the player with 70%+ winning chances when the chips go in the middle loses the hand.

ie. aipf: if AQ beats AK, then I classify this as a bad beat
ie. aipf: if 56 beats AK, then I won't classify this as a bad beat

I play quite a lot online, so after a few weeks I am curios to see the stats (if I don't get tired of tracking them before)

I will let you know how it goes

Edit: If somebody wants to do the same and is not 100% familiar with the odds, this link could be helpful: http://www.cardplayer.com/poker_odds/texas_holdem

jbravado

Rigged.

zuutroy

In before LOL.

None of them are rigged (except B2B)

pocketdooz

nuxxx wrote: »

I used to play alot on PPP , and anytime i would build a half decent bankroll i wud suffer bad beat after bad beat. I remember i lost 5 sngs in a row on the river due to runner in a row, i was so convinced i messenged the manager thingy and showed them the odds of my kk aa etc in those 5 sngs loosing 5 times in a row on 1 card must have been about ten zillion to one. So i left.

join partypoker, been playing there for around 3 months and my bank roll have never been as big. Either im staying around the same or im making a bigger bankroll.. Iv never experienced any of these bad beats which i found constantly on PPP and ipoker. on ipoker it got to a point i used to call my brother in to say "look he`ll get a jack" on the river , sng after sng, was just so LOL. Iv not some fool accusing sites either, iv been playing online for a good few years, just happy aswell i dont play on that ipoker anymore!

btw i seen a thread about bout this before and im sure others agree. I just dont trust ipoker at all.

No offence mate, but . . .

do you really think Playtech, a publicly quoted company with revenues per annum in the 100's of millions of GB Sterling and a market capitalisation of roughly €300 million is going to risk all that by rigging your $30 sit-and-go's.

I sincerly doubt it. :rolleyes:









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pokerstuff

i poker is defo rigged lol

DEEP THROAT

TripleAce wrote: »

I also play on iPoker, I have been getting bad beat after bad beat recently, however I don't think for one second that online poker is rigged. I just don't as it wouldn't make any sense. We all notice when we get a bad beat against us, however one day you take it, one day you give it.....

Just last night though I have decided that from today I will keep a spreadsheet of "Bad Beat Given" and "Bad Beat Received" Online.

I will consider a "Bad Beat" any hand that when the player with 70%+ winning chances when the chips go in the middle loses the hand.

ie. aipf: if AQ beats AK, then I classify this as a bad beat
ie. aipf: if 56 beats AK, then I won't classify this as a bad beat

I play quite a lot online, so after a few weeks I am curios to see the stats (if I don't get tired of tracking them before)

I will let you know how it goes

Edit: If somebody wants to do the same and is not 100% familiar with the odds, this link could be helpful: http://www.cardplayer.com/poker_odds/texas_holdem

AK been beaten by AQ is not a bad beat and anyone who thinks it is should give up the game ( for the reason of your sanity). Its unfortunate yes and they will happen quite regularly.

A bad beat would be AK vs AQ on a Kxx flop and it comes JT to give the AQ the pot. Try finding situations where on hands if 90+% favourite and call them bad beats

Hosef

nuxxx wrote: »

i was so convinced i messenged the manager thingy and showed them the odds of my kk aa etc in those 5 sngs loosing 5 times in a row on 1 card must have been about ten zillion to one. So i left.

You could take any series of 5 hands and apply the same logic, the odds of them turning out exactly like they did would be "about ten zillion to one"

RoadSweeper

If you hold down ctrl and w while all in it prevents a bad beat. Only works on ipoker.

Hank Scorpio

my point is i dont see these kinds of beats on partypoker
but yes loosing AA AK KK on low strenght boards to runner runner 5 times in a row for all my chips did have myself and my brother laughing our heads off

p.s Joke all you want i find it amusing !!!!!

A bad beat would be AK vs AQ on a Kxx flop and it comes JT to give the AQ the pot. Try finding situations where on hands if 90+% favourite and call them bad beats

These are exactly the beats im talking about, im not talking about my aces being cracked by dueces, im talking about my aces loosing to a 2 and a 6 giving my opp a straight ETC.

TripleAce

DEEP THROAT wrote: »

AK been beaten by AQ is not a bad beat and anyone who thinks it is should give up the game ( for the reason of your sanity). Its unfortunate yes and they will happen quite regularly.

A bad beat would be AK vs AQ on a Kxx flop and it comes JT to give the AQ the pot. Try finding situations where on hands if 90+% favourite and call them bad beats

I want a large amount of data - that's why I stick to 70%.

If I focus on 90-10 only it would take me ages to get a sample worth looking at.

As for the "reason of sanity", I agree with you on this - As things have gone in the last 3 days I may need a doctor

TripleAce

nuxxx wrote: »

my point is i dont see these kinds of beats on partypoker
but yes loosing AA AK KK on low strenght boards to runner runner 5 times in a row for all my chips did have myself and my brother laughing our heads off

p.s Joke all you want i find it amusing !!!!!

Play live and you will see the exact same number of bad beats as you see on any online poker room.....

pocketdooz

TripleAce wrote: »

I will consider a "Bad Beat" any hand that when the player with 70%+ winning chances when the chips go in the middle loses the hand.

ie. aipf: if AQ beats AK, then I classify this as a bad beat

ie. aipf: if 56 beats AK, then I won't classify this as a bad beat

Edit: If somebody wants to do the same and is not 100% familiar with the odds, this link could be helpful: http://www.cardplayer.com/poker_odds/texas_holdem

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AK = 67% to win vs AQs

AK = 62% to win vs 56

Taken from the link you provided above ^^

Your criteria for "bad-beat" is quite narrow ?



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cooker3

Please come back. I am always bad beating people. You should see my all in ev graph. I am constantly ahead of expectation. If people like you leave it might even out and I might only run at expectation and then I will be a

Hank Scorpio

TripleAce wrote: »

Play live and you will see the exact same number of bad beats as you see on any online poker room.....

i do play live occasionally, yes there is bad beats but the live game is alot slower you its impossible to compare to two. Nehow i used to think playing on ipoker its just part and package of the parcel loosing every 2nd time flopping the nuts in a all in situation:)
Dont mean to upset anyone btw... just wudent recommend ipoker

Wreck

I hear two guys found a dead bigfoot in the forest. There are pics and everything.

cardshark202

I think you're on to something here nuxxx...

cardshark202

Also I think there should be lots of fail pictures and lol pictures posted before this thread gets locked.

GL nuxxx, thanks for warning us.

cardshark202

This is how the absolute scandal broke out btw.

TripleAce

pocketdooz wrote: »

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AK = 67% to win vs AQs

AK = 62% to win vs 56

Taken from the link you provided above ^^

Your criteria for "bad-beat" is quite narrow ?



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As I said, 70% will help me gather a larger sample.

Also note that above I said AK vs AQ, didn't say AQs (for what is worth), so don't cheat

Of course this are not "terrible" bad beats, but are bad beats nevertheless.

TripleAce

nuxxx wrote: »

i do play live occasionally, yes there is bad beats but the live game is alot slower you its impossible to compare to two. Nehow i used to think playing on ipoker its just part and package of the parcel loosing every 2nd time flopping the nuts in a all in situation:)
Dont mean to upset anyone btw... just wudent recommend ipoker

Then why not use this at your advantage? Stick with iPoker and always put your chips in when you know you are behind! If somebody gets a bad beat, then someone else must be giving it :P

cooker3

cardshark202 wrote: »

This is how the absolute scandal broke out btw.

Nuxxx, boards own adanthar!

Pulsar Eagle

RoadSweeper wrote: »

If you hold down ctrl and w while all in it prevents a bad beat. Only works on ipoker.

it dosent seem to work for me when i try it though

Jason_Kabia

nuxxx wrote: »

btw i seen a thread about bout this before and im sure others agree. I just dont trust ipoker at all.

agreed! please keep us informed of your findings on pokerstars!

im talking aboUt my aces loosing to a 2 and a 6 giving my opp a straight ETC.

sick!

Iv not some fool accusing sites either.

ORLY?

Hitman Actual

Lol at what some people consider bad beats. I wouldn't consider any pre-flop AI a bad-beat scenario.

Hank Scorpio

yes , smart alic jason , your incredibly funny!
i just gave my experience of the two sites and there differences over the same time spam, roughly 4 months on each.

If u wer sitting beside me that day instead of my brother where he watched me play 5 SNGS, and each time when we got it all in vs the villian we were knocked out by runner runner.

5 times in a row playing "good" poker on ipoker in around 2 hours multitabling , in around 4 months on party i have maybe seen this happen twice after 100s of sngs. We called the cards on each street , we just looked at each other to say WTF

And im not referring just to those 5 SNGs, of course it was insane bad luck how we called each card out and they hit cause it was there only outer on the river. =why wud they cheat people out of it? no idea, there prolly not! but im sure as hell not convinced about there card dealer system ;O

Read up on the old thread about this subject its locked now im sure this one will be too, but i would advise people to not use ipoker software.

LuckyLloyd

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OilBeefHooked2

lenny_leonard wrote: »

Lol at what some people consider bad beats. I wouldn't consider any pre-flop AI a bad-beat scenario.

+1
To be considered for a bad beat surely it has to be a 1/2 outer on the river.

OilBeefHooked2

nuxxx wrote: »

yes , smart alic jason , your incredibly funny!
i just gave my experience of the two sites and there differences over the same time spam, roughly 4 months on each.

If u wer sitting beside me that day instead of my brother where he watched me play 5 SNGS, and each time when we got it all in vs the villian we were knocked out by runner runner.

5 times in a row playing "good" poker on ipoker in around 2 hours multitabling , in around 4 months on party i have maybe seen this happen twice after 100s of sngs. We called the cards on each street , we just looked at each other to say WTF

And im not referring just to those 5 SNGs, of course it was insane bad luck how we called each card out and they hit cause it was there only outer on the river. =why wud they cheat people out of it? no idea, there prolly not! but im sure as hell not convinced about there card dealer system ;O

Read up on the old thread about this subject its locked now im sure this one will be too, but i would advise people to not use ipoker software.

FAIL
You shoulda folded if you knew those exact cards were coming:P

Hosef

Some guy in Dundalk won the lottery last week, the odds of him winning were close to impossible.

Lotto is obviously rigged, would recommend people to stay away from it!

Hitman Actual

nuxxx wrote: »

yes , smart alic jason , your incredibly funny!
i just gave my experience of the two sites and there differences over the same time spam, roughly 4 months on each.

This thread isn't far off that.

nuxxx wrote: »

If u wer sitting beside me that day instead of my brother where he watched me play 5 SNGS, and each time when we got it all in vs the villian we were knocked out by runner runner.

All-in preflop? Or when did the money go in? I doubt the probability is anywhere near as mind-blowing as you think it is.