dota help 1v1

Tar.Aldarion

What is the best hero vs mortred 1v1 say when they get a build of:

treads
battlefury
monkey king bar
desolator
vlads
other item

The critical strike is something like 1400 then and a lot of heroes die to a few whacks and she also has evasion, blink attack and slow. What hero and item build would you suggest would be best against her?

Da Bounca

High damage spell casters should be able to handle mort, especially if armed with a disable item. A decent lion should be able to take her.

Maybe another uber mellee hero maxed out, like tiny. Maybe a basher hero, or even Void.

That is a nasty mort though, and it certainly wouldn't be an easy task taking her down.

Jazzy

as dabounca said id go for tiny (25% rebound bash), lion or void

all maxed out ofc.
tiny:
power treads
Assault Curaiss
2x Bashers
butterfly
satanic

lion:
BoT
Aghanims
refresher
guinsoos
and if u really want... a Dagon

Void:
power treads
mask of madness
butterfly
vangaurd
2x Bashers


having said that, a well played mortred is a bitch to kill regardless. low hp tho so even just a high damage hero like razor could beat her with "dream items" if ya get me

Dustaz

Tara Le d'Arion wrote: »

What is the best hero vs mortred 1v1 say when they get a build of:

treads
battlefury
monkey king bar
desolator
vlads
other item

The critical strike is something like 1400 then and a lot of heroes die to a few whacks and she also has evasion, blink attack and slow. What hero and item build would you suggest would be best against her?

If you got past

Treads
Dominator>Satanic
Battlefury
Butterfly

in a normal public game i would be astonished. If you have that gear and havent won yet, theres something going wrong

Tar.Aldarion

Thanks for the suggestions!
When I said it was 1v1 it is 5v5(lan) with one person on each team knowing what is going on while the others are learning(he's played for 4 years, me a few weeks so I'm not the best around ahem). So there's a lot of free gold. :-p They're getting better now though.
It's no problem getting those items or better. I got 6 hearts for fun. It's usually me that's pa and wins but when he is pa and I am somebody else I have lost.

I haven't tried tiny or void yet, I'll try them out, lion just get's pwnt, black king bar and other such anti magic items. The mortred gets boots of speed and pers>battlefury first.
Once battlefury is got the gold literally pours in with the crits.

I'll try out troll and void too.

Sykk

Best IMO would be:

Luna

Dagon
Lothars
Guinsoo
Satanic
Threads Agi
Buriza

Late game - Sell Dagon and make BF

Why?

Dagon early game against him along with lucent beams, makes it impossible for him to even build any sort of money for items.

seraphimvc

ah 1v1 vs pa in a 5v5 game:pac: gank the h*ck of pa in early game ,make him a damn poor hero in late game = gg.

or in a noble way:
pa is a SUPER end game hero,intel nuker can be 1 or 2 hit dead,low hp agi same,even 4000hp of str heroes like centaur/lucifer can be killed easily due to his evasion+crit.same thing really,gank the m%^$%f*cker in early game as much as possible,he is a very fragile hero for the first 20mins,harass,avoid killed by him as much as possible.GANK him,there is no shame on that.

there is no way you can 1v1 finish pa if two of you at 25lvl full items like you say,even pa is a big noob(i suppose the noob still know how to blink strike creep to run away).

if you really wanna have fun 1v1 on pa,do it before pa is lvl 16 .guinsoo is a must i'd say.the 2 sec hex will be your only chance to finish him off cause' he can blink and run.lifesteal,stunner,high evasion,high hp.reduce armor/slow buffer(assault cuirass/skadi/ice arrow) is a bonus.

pick some stunner like
nerub (easy run and high damage ,manaburn stun ulti mana burn ,plus a dagon,a pa with 1000+ hp can be killed in few sec)
sven with guinsoo plus his ulti is totally gay ,pa wont stand long on sven like that
centaur owned blademaill is very painful on pa in early game,max the skill and boost your hp ,pa wont be able to kill you,plus guinsoo you know he is dead.
naix with high damage/high lifesteal/crit can have a fight with him too...if ya are lucky...
or my personal favourite Troll with 2 bashers perma stun pa ,guinsoo guarantees he is dead.or a feeded magina with full evasion/basher.bristleback could kill pa too with the right items and very pro play.

like i say above,there is no natural way to own pa 1v1.i played sven once with guinsoo just to kill pa with the team,still a ridiculous build imo till now >_< best thing to do is disabler + stunner properly kill pa in early game for good.

edit:ohgod sorry for the long reply,its just my 2cent anyway >_<hate the one hour break between classes.
and Luna from above suggestion is what i hate most,lure pa 1v1 and ulti = gg,ONLY in early game.if i'm the pa i would lure luna to hit her ulti and run,come back few sec and she is dead.wouldnt recommend her at all.a luna in a skilled pa game better get lothar for survival.tiny is a damn fragile hero i wouldn't recommend too eventho he can own pa easily toss stun early game,late game tiny is a free food - unless you have massive gold,which is impossible if the pa knows how to get you in mid game.