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2 weeks terminated.

  • 18-08-2008 9:53am
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    Closed Accounts Posts: 7,134 ✭✭✭


    I started this job a few weeks ago and this morning I was told by my boss he was not going to go ahead with my position. I had no warnings written or verbal. He said I was pretty much not suited for this role


    seems a bit harsh, I was employed in an area which was not my speciality and he took this into account when he hired me but said that I was lacking some basic fundamentals he would have expected me to have known from my degree.

    He also said I over elaborated on a few things on my cv which he took very serious, like autocad. I had to get training on this when he assumed I was competent on it.


    Internet usage he mentioned, not a main factor in his decision but he said I was using companies time and this was to have been worked back on your hours.

    2 weeks is not very long but I am tad bit embarrassed, the company was small. (as in tiny). but was not given any notices which I am a bit peeved off about.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,178 ✭✭✭dade


    He said I was pretty much not suited for this role.
    no offense meant bit why'd he hire you then. seems maybe he realized that when you take the following into account:
    I was employed in an area which was not my speciality ...... said that I was lacking some basic fundamentals he would have expected me to have known from my degree..

    did he mention this to you when you started? i find it strange that he's hire someone lacking the required skill he needed. maybe he found someone more suited and having the required skills.
    He also said I over elaborated on a few things on my cv which he took very serious, like autocad. I had to get training on this when he assumed I was competent on it...
    did you mislead him at the interviews to say you where competent at it?
    Internet usage he mentioned, not a main factor in his decision but he said I was using companies time and this was to have been worked back on your hours....
    not much i can say here, some places don't have a problem once it's safe usage others do. but as he had an issue with your skill and experience I'd say this was the straw that broke the camels back
    2 weeks is not very long but I am tad bit embarrassed, the company was small. (as in tiny). but was not given any notices which I am a bit peeved off about.
    don't mention them on your CV, lodge you P45 with the tax office and don't give to your future employers that way they don't have to know about it. you can start off on a week 1 basis with the tax office with a simple phone call. it does mean a month or so emergency tax but after that it's all sorted.


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators, Entertainment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 18,377 CMod ✭✭✭✭Nody


    dade wrote: »
    no offense meant bit why'd he hire you then. seems maybe he realized that when you take the following into account:
    He did answer that one above regarding education and not knowing fundamentals from his Uni time which the boss expected.
    did he mention this to you when you started? i find it strange that he's hire someone lacking the required skill he needed. maybe he found someone more suited and having the required skills.
    See above regarding knowing fundamentals from Uni time.
    not much i can say here, some places don't have a problem once it's safe usage others do. but as he had an issue with your skill and experience I'd say this was the straw that broke the camels back
    I'd tend to agree esp. if he needed training and then spent time surfing the web instead of trying to get up to speed.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,967 ✭✭✭✭Zulu


    Yea, well, in a small company they're looking for serious workers. How much time were you dossing on the web for each day?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,178 ✭✭✭dade


    my point was that i find it hard to believe someone would hire someone so inexperienced/underqualified. unless that person misrepresented themselves at teh interview


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,134 ✭✭✭x in the city


    I was probably using the web around an hour a day, I never took notice. Basically I did all the jobs I was assigned to, I was not given any real work as such, a few phone calls to make. and my training on autocad which I had done. There was an internet policy in place but he did not go over it much or give me any warnings

    I did some electrical work on a firestation and he had reservations on my knowledge on 3 phase systems which he figured I shouuld have known more on.

    I am a bit shocked and was given no indication this would happend but on hindsight i would not have stayed in this job much longer than 6 months anyway. I guess he beat me to it.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 12,382 ✭✭✭✭AARRRGH


    Two weeks isn't a large investment of your time. The best thing you can do is try to learn from the situation and move forward.

    I have no doubt you will find a nice employer who appreciates you, so don't worry too much.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 193 ✭✭Claire121


    The same happened to me not long ago, basically the same story as yourself. I was pretty shocked that an employer is allowed to do this, and then pretty annoyed because I'd turned down another position to take this job and now I was back to the job search again. Major inconvenience. I was annoyed at how the employer didn't seem to realise how inconvenient it was to get a job and be told two weeks later I was out. I was thinking, why the hell did you hire me? I had even mentioned when I was offered the job that I was a bit worried about not having all the required skills (my Excel wasn't great) and he told me not to worry and that he'd send me on a course if necessary!
    He claimed that I didn't show enough iniative, but I'd only been at the job a week the first time he told me he wasn't happy. To me, a week is nothing, you're only just settling in, learning what you're supposed to be doing. I've spent over a week just in training in other jobs. And this guy expected me to stroll in like I owned the place and have everything under control?!

    Is this an Irish thing? I've never been in this situation before but I usually work abroad. I know about a probation period, but FFS, how can you make assumptions about someone's competence in 4-5 days? I felt like I'd been written off before even being given a chance. I did all the work required, often came in early/stayed late if needed, pleasant attitude, and just because I somehow wasn't exactly what he was hoping for, I got the boot? I'm pretty shocked that this seems to be allowed.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,276 ✭✭✭damnyanks


    It's probably a variety of things. Notice the key factor here is small companies. They see someone who is quite junior without the full knowledge base. However they give them a shot in the hope that they can demonstrate a good work ethic and get on top of things.

    Basically they dont want to waste their time spoon feeding people. You cant slack in a small company. Idiots can last forever in multinationals.

    (I'm not implying you guys are idiots - i'm going on my experience in large companies where idiots cna remain in the same role forever)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 193 ✭✭Claire121


    But how can you judge that in 1-2 weeks? It just seems so unfair to claim someone lacks iniative or isn't suited to the job in such a short space of time. Fair enough if it's something ridiculously easy like a production line in a factory, but most office jobs need more than a few days to get the hang of.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,276 ✭✭✭damnyanks


    First 1 or 2 weeks would normaly be when someone is most eager and willing to question things. If I had a turn over of 200k a year and took a junior on who cost me anything between 18 - 30k that would represent a substantial undertaking.

    With that in mind not only would I want to see them making a very positive effort but I'd also want them capable of working on their own as soon as possible. It's why smaller companies usually stay away from junior hires.


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