high def specs

bayliner

i noticed more and more guys wearing the panther shooting lenses of late at clay shoots just wondering if any of you guys have used or bought them??? and what do ye think of them?? are they worth the 400+euros that they cost??have been seriously been considering purchasing....
the price is prob all thats holding me back at the moment:rolleyes:...
heard the lenses are scratch resistant??

i am the type that sweats a lot will they fog up like the cheaper ones???

pullandbang

I'm using them - won them on the ICPSA website competition sponsored by www.clayshooters.ie

I have the Panther Post with the RX insert because I need prescription glasses and so far so good. Hard to know if I would have gone out and spent €415 + €90 for the RX insert + €110 to the optician for the prescription, but having won them in the first place I definitely think they are worth it. (By the way, they have come down in price AFAIK)
For trap shooting I stick with just the one lens and I'm looking forward to getting my hands on the new Max Orange lens. It's supposed to be the bees knees for trap. http://www.clayshooters.ie/Panther.html

Anyone I know that is wearing them, swears by them - in particular the fact that they don't fog up.

bayliner

i shoot sporting and close one eye so the post would be a non starter i guess,,thanks for the feedback PAB i am seriously swaying towards them.
if its true they dont fog up then that is a big incentive for me!!

jwshooter

bayliner wrote: »

i shoot sporting and close one eye so the post would be a non starter i guess,,thanks for the feedback PAB i am seriously swaying towards them.
if its true they dont fog up then that is a big incentive for me!!

you will buy them a lot less in the uk

bayliner

jwshooter wrote: »

you will buy them a lot less in the uk

any idea where??

bayliner

just emailed clayshooters for their "not to be beaten" price list on said glasses so hopefully that will set me straight ...

jwshooter

bayliner wrote: »

any idea where??

litts had them a 270 sterling thats about 350 euro and its the panther new range they will be opening again shortly if you can get a copy of clay shooting there is many more retailers in it

bayliner

jwshooter wrote: »

litts had them a 270 sterling thats about 350 euro and its the panther new range they will be opening again shortly if you can get a copy of clay shooting there is many more retailers in it

yep,will have look for that,cheers!

gofaster_s13

At the end of the day its just another thing to worry about/blame "did I miss it because I had the wrong lenses in":D

rrpc

bayliner wrote: »

i shoot sporting and close one eye so the post would be a non starter i guess,,thanks for the feedback PAB i am seriously swaying towards them.
if its true they dont fog up then that is a big incentive for me!!

You should never close one eye while shooting regardless of the discipline. It's incredibly tiring on the open eye and will cause blurring.

Sounds to me like you're cross dominant. A blinder would be a lot less tiring, or alternatively; switching hands.

bayliner

shoot of the left and master eye is the right(cross dominant as you say) so have to close it..
tried switching to shoot of the right but just cant!!

when open both eyes shooting to the right of everything...
have never tried the blinder thing

rrpc

Try the blinder. It doesn't have to be big, the one for ISSF rifle rules is 30mm wide, but it's semi-opaque so the light reaches your eye and you don't get imbalance of light between eyes.

Closing your eye is far too tiring, you're at such a disadvantage when you do it.

I'm cross dominant, so it's not new to me. I've got to the stage where I can switch dominance at will, but I still use the blinder to prevent an unconscious switch back at the wrong time.

Derek Burnett is also cross dominant; left eye/right hand and he shoots without a blinder right-handed, but he doesn't close his eye either.

pullandbang

bayliner wrote: »

shoot of the left and master eye is the right(cross dominant as you say) so have to close it..
tried switching to shoot of the right but just cant!!

when open both eyes shooting to the right of everything...
have never tried the blinder thing

Try EasyHit - www.easyhit.co.uk

You really do need both eyes open.

I only have the post because I need the RX insert. The Panther is available without the post.

CoachD

I purchased the panther without post and it was the one of the best investments I have made for a long time. I shoot shotgun rifle and revolver and with the selection of lenses (including clear) they have done me well. Expensive, buth worth the money.
www.clayshooters.ie is where I got them. Buy Irish!!!!!!

bayliner

yeah have recieved a few emails from alan at clayshooters including a price list,and some other info too,, very helpfull.... and yes would much prefer to buy irish:)....

have been shootin g for 16 years or so with one eye closed so how hard is it gona be to change the habit now i wonder:cool::cool:....
but will def try it out anyway...

It wasn't me!

If you're wearing shooting glasses, black out the lens you're not using. It means you can keep the eye open and not have tiredness issues.

bayliner

going to try that too, need to do some serious tinkering with all this info:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D,,, try everything!!!

rrpc

It wasn't me! wrote: »

If you're wearing shooting glasses, black out the lens you're not using. It means you can keep the eye open and not have tiredness issues.

It's never a great idea to black out a lens IWM, it's better than closing the eye, but the light imbalance between the eyes will also cause tiredness and blurriness. Also your eye will try to focus on the blacked out lens with focussing issues in the other eye.

Sparks

Yup. Better to make the lens opaque somehow. Maybe spraying with a solvent or sandblasting it might do it - but that also comprimises the strength of the glasses, and it'd be a shame to lose eye protection. If you could find a piece of translucent plastic and stick that over the non-shooting eye's lens, that would do it.

jwshooter

its kinda hard to win here bayliner ,your shooting long enough to know what works for you if your game shooting or pigeon decoying with a eye closed your not going to change to shoot clays . that would really mess you up

rrpc

jwshooter wrote: »

its kinda hard to win here bayliner ,your shooting long enough to know what works for you if your game shooting or pigeon decoying with a eye closed your not going to change to shoot clays . that would really mess you up

It's not such a big problem when you're game shooting because you won't be closing the eye for protracted periods like you would when shooting clays. In that case closing your eye is probably the best option.

If you had to do it every 5 minutes, you'd be having a great days shooting

bayliner

plenty of food for thought anyway:D:D
maybe too much!!!:eek: wouldnt be wearing glasses for hunting anyway so prob keep closing the eye there.....just need to do some experimenting and see what i am more comfortable with, the last thing i need is something ELSE to think about at shoots!!!

Sparks

Actually bayliner, sometimes when you introduce something new like that, you shoot better while it feels new and odd (because your brain goes off and actually focuses on the familiar - ie the fundamentals of the shot). But more importantly, the one single principle in all of this sport that consistently works better than any other is that of the Renaissance - try something and check the results of actually trying it instead of theorising about it

So you get the glasses, try them for two or three months (long enough to get used to them) and if it works, you do better, and if not, you have a bad match or two. So what? You're going to stay with the sport for years more, so what's a match or two as a stake in a bet when the payoff is a better score?

bayliner

yeah i am open to try these new methods sparks. going to have a look at these glasses sunday at lakelands(i think he supplies them)... would be interested in trying this bead thing i read about

Sandyman

Hi Gents,
I have been using hidef for the last 4 months or so. I have to say that they are brilliant. If you compare them to the oakley shooting glasses there is no comparison in clarity. I have a friend who bought the hidef and couldnt really see the difference between them and his old glasses so he sold them. He bought the Oakleys and soon realised the error of his ways. He agreed that there is no comparison. He has since purchased a pair of hidef blades. I find the 65 lens class in low light 15 in v strong sunlight and the 40's for in between. I have looked through the orange max and find that they are "crap", a complete waste of money(they might suit trap shooters who dont really have to worry about the range of a clay) but for sporting they are a waste of time. You cannot simply beat the 65ltm hi def lens. Hidef are also totally overpriced as we are paying for Digweeds and others advertising.

Kindest Regards

pullandbang

Sandyman wrote: »

I have looked through the orange max and find that they are "crap", a complete waste of money(they might suit trap shooters who dont really have to worry about the range of a clay)

Did you look at trap targets or sporting with the Max Orange lens?
They are supposed to be the bogs dollox for trap where you tend to have a dark background. I'm in the process of getting one from www.clayshooters.ie

Sandyman

No just seen them on sporting targets. I couyldnt comment on trap targets. Deffo a waste of money for a sporting shooter.

pullandbang

Sandyman wrote: »

No just seen them on sporting targets. I couyldnt comment on trap targets. Deffo a waste of money for a sporting shooter.

Thought so! The standard lenses that come with the glasses are really for sporting targets where the sky is usually your background. I do find that I don't lose the clay as much now with the Hidefs when it leaves the trees and hiths the skyline. I use the 45 ltm all the time but I'm looking forward to trying the Max Orange.

bayliner

oh now i dont know what to do:D
i shoot sporting mostly so whats the story?? anyone that shoots sporting think they are worth it????
confusion ... confusion...