M50 fixed speed cameras

tech77

Hi.
Can anyone tell me what Dublin speed cameras are actually in operation at the moment.
Specifically the M50 and N/M7 ones.

I notice that a lot of traffic on the M50 seems to ignore the ridiculous 60kph speed limits especially.
Can i infer from this that no M50 cameras are operational?

I drive reasonably but i'm worried that i may have (very slightly) exceeded the limit on a number of occasions (especially the 60kph).

Only recently i've seen their exact locations on my Tomtom- but i can't actually see some of them on the road at all.
I presume the Tomtom ones are the fixed ones?
And are these things roadside boxes or overhead cameras?
And WHICH ONES ARE ACTUALLY WORKING?.
Cheers.

Marcus.Aurelius

As far as I can see, they're all offline, out of order or dismantled

The one at the Tallaght on-ramp on the M50 northbound is gone, the N4 one opposite the Spa hotel is offline as far as I can tell, (besides, the calibration lines aren't visible on the road), the one before the airport exit northbound on the M50 is useless too afaik, I was driving there a few weeks back and forgot the 60 kph rule and was worried about it, but the camera box is obscured by overgrowth anyway, so here's hoping.

Seth Brundle

The one near the approach to the M1 interchange is not offline/out of order.
It just hasn't been reduced to 60km/h. Saw it flash recently at a car flying along (>130km/h). I don't think the flash zone is obscured though but I stand to be corrected. The road markings are pretty much gone though so the speeder would more than likely have gotten away with it!

-Chris-

If you've got your eyes peeled, you can't miss them. When you have an hour free, re-drive the M50 with the TomTom and keep an eye out on the left, AFAIK there's only 2 or 3 cameras on the M50, but from your post I seem to understand that there's more than that indicated by your satnav.

Don't infer anything when it comes to penalty points, don't follow other drivers.

Things aren't as bad as your TomTom says, but don't presume they're not working just because everyone else does.

Edit: others beat me to it (including one who's vastly more qualified to answer that question than I...). I stand by the sentiment of my answer though

Marcus.Aurelius

kbannon wrote: »

The one near the approach to the M1 interchange is not offline/out of order.
It just hasn't been reduced to 60km/h. Saw it flash recently at a car flying along (>130km/h). I don't think the flash zone is obscured though but I stand to be corrected. The road markings are pretty much gone though so the speeder would more than likely have gotten away with it!

Maybe it was just the way it looked in my rearview mirror, ah well.

[nervous voice]You're sure its still at 120 kph?[/nervous voice]

:pac:

eringobragh

kbannon wrote: »

The one near the approach to the M1 interchange is not offline/out of order.
It just hasn't been reduced to 60km/h. Saw it flash recently at a car flying along (>130km/h). I don't think the flash zone is obscured though but I stand to be corrected. The road markings are pretty much gone though so the speeder would more than likely have gotten away with it!

Yep, The radar part is still turned on on the M1/M50 camera anyway, my V1 gets a bit chattery at the Ballymun slip road, but as said before its lens is covered by overgrowth. I've not seen it flash and ppl i've seen are well over the limit incl myself

The N4 SPA Hotel camera is switched off months now.

The camera at the end of the toll had been off for a while prior to its removal.

M1 camera after Junction 12 heading back towards dublin is live radar wise i seen a couple of cars tear past it with no flash.

tech77

Marcus.Aurelius wrote: »

As far as I can see, they're all offline, out of order or dismantled

The one at the Tallaght on-ramp on the M50 northbound is gone, the N4 one opposite the Spa hotel is offline as far as I can tell, (besides, the calibration lines aren't visible on the road), the one before the airport exit northbound on the M50 is useless too afaik, I was driving there a few weeks back and forgot the 60 kph rule and was worried about it, but the camera box is obscured by overgrowth anyway, so here's hoping.

Cheers.
Yeah i just figured that if they were operational half the country would have racked up 12 points by now.
If they are actually operational, it's very hard not to get a "shooting fish in a barrel" feeling.

And none of the M50 is 120kph either, is it (what's the M bit for ) - so it's like they're saying "here's a road with sections fit for 120kph, let's see if you can resist going over 100kph though and avoid points." :rolleyes:

Marcus.Aurelius

tech77 wrote: »

And none of the M50 is 120kph either, is it (what's the M bit for ) - so it's like they're saying "here's a road with sections fit for 120kph, let's see if you can resist going over 100kph though and avoid points." :rolleyes:

Personally I've more of an issue with paying €2 each time to drive on what has obviously become a badly arranged and piss-poor effort at a building site-come-third world style dirt track!

Back on topic, be wary of the cameras irrespective of what you hear, it can be useful to watch the other drivers ahead of you, particularly if they drop anchor just after passing it, they may have been flashed. If you're on your own, drop down to the speed limit just to be on the safe side imo!

Guy:Incognito

Marcus.Aurelius wrote: »

Personally I've more of an issue with paying €2 each time to drive on what has obviously become a badly arranged and piss-poor effort at a building site-come-third world style dirt track!
!

Your not charged €2 to drive on a building site. Theres no building going on on the bridge. Thats all the toll is for.

tech77

If you've got your eyes peeled, you can't miss them. When you have an hour free, re-drive the M50 with the TomTom and keep an eye out on the left, AFAIK there's only 2 or 3 cameras on the M50, but from your post I seem to understand that there's more than that indicated by your satnav.

Yeah i've seen what look like overhead cameras (like CCTV cameras) on flyovers and boxes on the side of the road (at the places indicated by the GPS), but in other places i've seen nothing at all.

Don't infer anything when it comes to penalty points, don't follow other drivers.

No of course not.
It's just in the 60kph zones especially , if practically everyone else is doing 70kph (hell 80kph even) perfectly safely, why be the only one on the road sticking to the 60.

Things aren't as bad as your TomTom says, but don't presume they're not working just because everyone else does.

Fair enough

Marcus.Aurelius

Stekelly wrote: »

Your not charged €2 to drive on a building site. Theres no building going on on the bridge. Thats all the toll is for.

Oh cheers.


That's much better then, isn't it?

(Technically, you are indeed correct sir!)

tech77

Personally I've more of an issue with paying €2 each time to drive on what has obviously become a badly arranged and piss-poor effort at a building site-come-third world style dirt track!

Yeah crazy.

Back on topic, be wary of the cameras irrespective of what you hear, it can be useful to watch the other drivers ahead of you, particularly if they drop anchor just after passing it, they may have been flashed. If you're on your own, drop down to the speed limit just to be on the safe side imo!

You say if you're on your own?
Are you safer in convoy
Like i'm guessing there's no way multiple detections in front of you would prevent your detection.
Again not condoning unreasonable driving (just don't want to be done for 65-70 in a ridiculous 60kph zone).

eringobragh

tech77 wrote: »

You say if you're on your own?
Are you safer in convoy
.

Yes technically the person in the lane beside you IF going faster and is in front of you when it flashes.. (hence the use of the lines) should get the fine.

tech77

Also anyone know anything about the N/M7 ones.
Are they like poles at the side of the road.
And are they working?

-Chris-

Marcus.Aurelius wrote: »

...it can be useful to watch the other drivers ahead of you, particularly if they drop anchor just after passing it, they may have been flashed...

in terms of proactive fine avoidance, that's probably the best bit of advice here!

tech77

AudiChris wrote: »

in terms of proactive fine avoidance, that's probably the best bit of advice here!

"Proactive fine avoidance"... i like that LOL.

eringobragh

tech77 wrote: »

Also anyone know anything about the N/M7 ones.
Are they like poles at the side of the road.
And are they working?

Not sure about the M7

All the republics ones are fixed cameras. Throw the co-ords into google maps for exact locations

Here's the co-ords for cameras (Some might be outdated) Ireland and Northern Ireland

Republic of Ireland (éire)

Fixed Camera Co-ords for all fixed GATSO & Redlight cameras in the Republic of Ireland (Éire)

Longitude Latitude Speed

-6.33558 53.29744 60
-6.35503 53.46364 80
-6.46206 53.35569 80
-6.38342 53.35928 60
-6.39947 53.81089 120
-6.24419 53.41011 120
-6.40597 53.85222 0
-6.48261 53.45803 100
-6.57775 53.56056 100
-6.63044 53.61108 100
-6.50028 53.64111 0
-6.53861 53.85111 0
-6.44306 53.56267 100
-6.22778 53.44111 60
-6.19425 53.50469 80
-6.25406 53.65042 80
-6.30836 53.34367 50
-6.38742 54.01675 100
-6.74706 53.67611 100

Northern Ireland

Various RedLight,Specs and Fixed GATSO

Longitude Latitude Speed

-5.93519 54.60275 30
-5.92714 54.60625 0
-5.91611 54.60056 30
-5.89811 54.60294 50
-5.87306 54.59561 30
-5.90778 54.55056 40
-5.75444 54.59333 70
-5.72778 54.58903 70
-6.34083 54.13889 60
-6.35842 54.11361 60
-6.3325 54.19667 0
-6.31806 54.22306 0
-6.35825 54.11361 60
-6.34061 54.13889 60
-5.98006 54.59758 30
-5.93894 54.62972 30

tech77

eringobragh wrote: »

Not sure about the M7

All the republics ones are fixed cameras. Throw the co-ords into google maps for exact locations

Here's the co-ords for cameras (Some might be outdated) Ireland and Northern Ireland

Republic of Ireland (éire)

Fixed Camera Co-ords for all fixed GATSO & Redlight cameras in the Republic of Ireland (Éire)

Longitude Latitude Speed

-6.33558 53.29744 60
-6.35503 53.46364 80
-6.46206 53.35569 80
-6.38342 53.35928 60
-6.39947 53.81089 120
-6.24419 53.41011 120
-6.40597 53.85222 0
-6.48261 53.45803 100
-6.57775 53.56056 100
-6.63044 53.61108 100
-6.50028 53.64111 0
-6.53861 53.85111 0
-6.44306 53.56267 100
-6.22778 53.44111 60
-6.19425 53.50469 80
-6.25406 53.65042 80
-6.30836 53.34367 50
-6.38742 54.01675 100
-6.74706 53.67611 100

Northern Ireland

Various RedLight,Specs and Fixed GATSO

Longitude Latitude Speed

-5.93519 54.60275 30
-5.92714 54.60625 0
-5.91611 54.60056 30
-5.89811 54.60294 50
-5.87306 54.59561 30
-5.90778 54.55056 40
-5.75444 54.59333 70
-5.72778 54.58903 70
-6.34083 54.13889 60
-6.35842 54.11361 60
-6.3325 54.19667 0
-6.31806 54.22306 0
-6.35825 54.11361 60
-6.34061 54.13889 60
-5.98006 54.59758 30
-5.93894 54.62972 30

Thanks for that.
Yeah there are M7 ones marked on the TT alright.
Just wondering if they're working though.

-Chris-

tech77 wrote: »

"Proactive fine avoidance"... i like that LOL.

eringobragh

tech77 wrote: »

Thanks for that.
Yeah there are M7 ones marked on the TT alright.
Just wondering if they're working though.

There's no fixed cameras on the M7 AFAIK are you sure its not flagging a 'mobile' camera.

tech77

eringobragh wrote: »

There's no fixed cameras on the M7 AFAIK are you sure its not flagging a 'mobile' camera.

Yeah the speed traps on the device are actually listed as "mobile speed traps".
So yeah i guess.
Even though i think my TT probably lists all speed traps (even fixed) as mobile speed traps.
Edit: I'll trust Google Maps.

eringobragh

tech77 wrote: »

Yeah the speed traps on the device are actually listed as "mobile speed traps".
So yeah i guess.
Even though i think my TT probably lists all speed traps (even fixed) as mobile speed traps.

Have you physically seen the Grey GATSO box on this road???

Like this one on the old airport road some kind person added a cone to (prime suspect: alan partridge )



What database are you using IrishSpeedtraps? PocketGPSWorlds?? I reckon your being alerted to common spots the garda are located at.

tech77

Have you physically seen the Grey GATSO box on this road???

TBH it was dark the last night i was driving down the M7 so i'm not sure.
(I've only started to get antsy about these cameras in the last couple of days so never paid too much attention before this
I'll look the next time though.
I don't think so though.

Like this one on the old airport road some kind person added a cone to (prime suspect: alan partridge )

Ha.
Interesting to see how easily defeated they are.

What database are you using IrishSpeedtraps? PocketGPSWorlds?? I reckon your being alerted to common spots the garda are located at.

Can't remember where i got them now tbh.
PocketGPSWorld database costs something (and they're mostly UK) , aren't they- so not those IIRC.
I downloaded them free from a Boards link IIRC- irishspeedtraps are free aren't they so probably those are the ones.
I'm using them with TT navigator on my phone (Teleatlas v6.75 maps).

I seem to have a lot (but not all) of the co-ordinates posted above.

eringobragh

tech77 wrote: »

TBH it was dark the last night i was driving down the M7 so i'm not sure.
(I've only started to get antsy about these cameras in the last couple of days so never paid too much attention before this
I'll look the next time though.
I don't think so though.




Ha.
Interesting to see how easily defeated they are.


Can't remember where i got them now tbh.
PocketGPSWorld database costs something (and they're mostly UK) , aren't they- so not those IIRC.
I downloaded them free from a Boards link IIRC- irishspeedtraps are free aren't they so probably those are the ones.
I'm using them with TT navigator on my phone (Teleatlas v6.75 maps).

I seem to have a lot (but not all) of the co-ordinates posted above.

Actually your right the PGPSW is only UK it used to have Irish co-ords

OK so i'm guessing there mobile traps being flagged TBH that would do my head as most major roads have had a garda speedtrap on it at one stage or another.

There's easier ways of defeated their traps ...apart from not speeding

Seth Brundle

tech77 wrote: »

Yeah i've seen what look like overhead cameras (like CCTV cameras) on flyovers and boxes on the side of the road (at the places indicated by the GPS), but in other places i've seen nothing at all.

tech77 wrote: »

Also anyone know anything about the N/M7 ones.
Are they like poles at the side of the road.
And are they working?

Traffic monitoring cameras!

There are indeed no fixed speed cameras along the N7 at all. The original Gatso cameras were installed in counties Louth, Meath and Dublin only. Of the 22 or so, there were only 3 with film IIRC (but they all flashed).

tech77

kbannon wrote: »

Traffic monitoring cameras!

There are indeed no fixed speed cameras along the N7 at all. The original Gatso cameras were installed in counties Louth, Meath and Dublin only. Of the 22 or so, there were only 3 with film IIRC (but they all flashed).

Yeah i seem to remember the 3 figure from before alright- i suppose i was wondering here if things had changed since then.
Obviously not
Thanks, good to know.

eringobragh

tech77 wrote: »

Yeah i seem to remember the 3 figure from before alright- i suppose i was wondering here if things had changed since then.
Obviously not
Thanks, good to know.

Some of them are dummy box's that just fake flash (only once instead of twice AFAIK) but as kbannon said only 3 use the film at anyone time.