car tax on a new car?

audismelly

Hi guys am picking up 06 passat thursday. the car has been sitting for last 6 months and has no tax. when will i need to tax this? how long will i get away without it?

i have 4 months tax left on the audi im tradeing in , am tempted to just stick in audi tax disc :eek:. my mates a garda so stamping wont be a problem.

any tips?

ytareh

If you get stopped at a checkpoint youd better have a convincing excuse and /or the gift of the gab or car may be taken on the spot...If you park in a public place without tax a BIG fine may be got .If they find you have 'fake' tax disc (unlikely I spose...)Id say theyd throw the book at ya ...

Anan1

audismelly wrote: »

Hi guys am picking up 06 passat thursday. the car has been sitting for last 6 months and has no tax. when will i need to tax this?

Straight away.

audismelly wrote: »

how long will i get away without it?

Maybe an hour, maybe a week, maybe a month. Honestly, how the f*ck would we know?

audismelly wrote: »

i have 4 months tax left on the audi im tradeing in , am tempted to just stick in audi tax disc :eek:.

Don't you think the garage might notice?

audismelly wrote: »

my mates a garda so stamping wont be a problem.

Stamping is never a problem.

audismelly wrote: »

any tips?

Tax the car?

colm_mcm

you're only liable for tax from the start of August.

Steve

audismelly wrote: »

any tips?

Don't eat yellow snow..:)



Apart from that - pay the tax like the rest of us.

ninty9er

What ^^ they said.

Take it straight to a Garda Station, get the form stamped and go to the tax office. Should tak a total of about 2 hours at a push.

Guy:Incognito

ninty9er wrote: »

What ^^ they said.

Take it straight to a Garda Station, get the form stamped and go to the tax office. Should tak a total of about 2 hours at a push.

Theres no need to go near a Garda station. He just taxes it when he gets the VLC.

Seth Brundle

Anan1 wrote: »

Maybe an hour, maybe a week, maybe a month. Honestly, how the f*ck would we know?

ROFL

audismelly

Anan1 wrote: »

Straight away.
Maybe an hour, maybe a week, maybe a month. Honestly, how the f*ck would we know?
Don't you think the garage might notice?
Stamping is never a problem.
Tax the car?

its my disc so how would garage notice

Steve

audismelly wrote: »

its my disc so how would garage notice

You're right - they're all thick - go for it.

:rolleyes:

ninty9er

audismelly wrote: »

its my disc so how would garage notice

The disc is the property of the state, like your passport and driving licence. Plus the reg of the Audi will be on it;)

@stekelly...he'll need an off the road declaration to tax it without paying the 6 months backtax.

Guy:Incognito

ninty9er wrote: »

@stekelly...he'll need an off the road declaration to tax it without paying the 6 months backtax.

No he wont, he's not liable for previous owners tax (or lack thereof)

OP if you are stopped with the worng tax disc you are better off eating it before a Gard gets hold of it because it will only get you in more trouble.

audismelly

ninty9er wrote: »

The disc is the property of the state, like your passport and driving licence. Plus the reg of the Audi will be on it;)

@stekelly...he'll need an off the road declaration to tax it without paying the 6 months backtax.

oh right cheers guys il prob tax her for sep onwards so.
just checking ,love the site, great info.
property of state:D

ninty9er

Stekelly wrote: »

No he wont, he's not liable for previous owners tax (or lack thereof)

He is if he turns up without the cert. I had to get my last car declared off the road to avoid paying 4 months backtax on it.

Guy:Incognito

ninty9er wrote: »

He is if he turns up without the cert. I had to get my last car declared off the road to avoid paying 4 months backtax on it.

Turns up where and without what cert?

Your only liable for tax from the start of the month that the ownership chages to you, What went on before you took ownership is irrelevant.

ninty9er

Stekelly wrote: »

Turns up where and without what cert?

Turns up at a motor tax office to pay without an off the road cert (RF100A) stamped by a Garda.

Guy:Incognito

ninty9er wrote: »

Turns up at a motor tax office to pay without an off the road cert (RF100A) stamped by a Garda.

As I already said above, it doesnt matter that it wasnt taxed before he bought it.

ninty9er

Stekelly wrote: »

As I already said above, it doesnt matter that it wasnt taxed before he bought it.

He still needs to prove it! And he won't have a VLC for at least a month.

Anan1

Stekelly wrote: »

As I already said above, it doesnt matter that it wasnt taxed before he bought it.

You're right, but the OP's suggesting taxing the car from September - this will require a stamped cert.

-Chris-

Previous owner should get it declared off the road, you should only have to tax if from point-of-ownership on.

If they won't get it declared off the road, you should do it yourself. I've never been questioned when getting that stamped by Gardai, they're happy enough to do it without documentary evidence.

Your general attitude towards the law seems lax though, audismelly, you'll do yourself a disservice.
There's no need to take the disk from your Audi, you don't need it.
If you're caught using it on another car you'll compound your punishment.
The garage will notice it gone from the trade-in (I know I would...).

Declare it off the road before your ownership and tax it immediately. It's fair, equitable and easy. You're only making trouble for yourself by doing otherwise.

Guy:Incognito

Anan1 wrote: »

You're right, but the OP's suggesting taxing the car from September - this will require a stamped cert.

Well he was actually propesing postponiong taxign it indefinately originally, but I assumed we'd moved past that and all agreed he was taxign it straight away.

ninty9er wrote: »

He still needs to prove it! And he won't have a VLC for at least a month.

They wont look for anything off him from before he owned it and why would they ? How is he to know where the car was or wht it's tax status was before he bought it. It's no concern of his.

eamon234

Once you have proof that you've just bought the car (I presume you'll be getting a receipt of some sort) the Gards won't bother you. You can't physically tax the car until you get the VLC. Just get it done asap as you could still be done while you're parked somewhere.
Stekelly's right - you are in no way liable for tax arrears when you buy a car (read the back of the tax renewal form people!) and there's absolutely no need to declare it off the road before you bought it.

audismelly

eamon234 wrote: »

Once you have proof that you've just bought the car (I presume you'll be getting a receipt of some sort) the Gards won't bother you. You can't physically tax the car until you get the VLC. Just get it done asap as you could still be done while you're parked somewhere.
Stekelly's right - you are in no way liable for tax arrears when you buy a car.

thanks and cheers audi chris,il get it done asap so

ninty9er

AudiChris wrote: »

Previous owner should get it declared off the road, you should only have to tax if from point-of-ownership on.

If they won't get it declared off the road, you should do it yourself. I've never been questioned when getting that stamped by Gardai, they're happy enough to do it without documentary evidence.

Finally, somebody gets it.

eamon234

so will you be changing your name?

I suggest Smelly VAG

Guy:Incognito

ninty9er wrote: »

Finally, somebody gets it.

Someone gets what? He's not liable for previous owners tax, end of. The date of change of ownership on thats on the form when it sent off is all that concerns him, nothing before that date has any consequence.

audismelly

eamon234 wrote: »

so will you be changing your name?

I suggest Smelly VAG

ah we mite stick with it,was a great a4.

the air conditioning was a bit smelly though.
changed pollen filters, recharged ,tried sprays ,cleaners could not kill it:mad:

Steve

eamon234 wrote: »

so will you be changing your name?

I suggest Smelly VAG

LOL

Could never understand blokes driving cars named after girlie bits...:D

L-M

AudiChris wrote: »

I've never been questioned when getting that stamped by Gardai, they're happy enough to do it without documentary evidence.

They are only there to witness what ur saying. They don't query what u are saying.

@OP, just tax ur tax, if ur buying from a dealer they should have the form, and if it's temporarily in their name they might tax it for u if u ask nicely.

audismelly

Limerick-man wrote: »

They are only there to witness what ur saying. They don't query what u are saying.

@OP, just tax ur tax, if ur buying from a dealer they should have the form, and if it's temporarily in their name they might tax it for u if u ask nicely.

yeah mite do that. im going on holiday 3 days after i pick it up so resent paying for the month of august:rolleyes:
yeah the garage would tax it indeed your spot on,heard them taxing another buyers car

peasant

Limerick-man wrote: »

They are only there to witness what ur saying. They don't query what u are saying.

@OP, just tax ur tax, if ur buying from a dealer they should have the form, and if it's temporarily in their name they might tax it for u if u ask nicely.

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Hotwheels

audismelly wrote: »

Hi guys am picking up 06 passat thursday. the car has been sitting for last 6 months and has no tax. when will i need to tax this? how long will i get away without it?

i have 4 months tax left on the audi im tradeing in , am tempted to just stick in audi tax disc :eek:. my mates a garda so stamping wont be a problem.

any tips?

:D:D

Tax Discs for sale (reely cheep) don't share this link

colm_mcm

Audi Chris's idea is great except for one small detail;

If the garage that you're buying the car from has completed an RF105 (change of vehicle ownership to a dealer), which they should have - then the Passat is no longer in the previous owners name.

The tax office will allow the garage in question to tax the car for 3 months straight away.

-Chris-

Sorry, by previous owner I mean the garage - I would put the onus on them to get the forms stamped to declare the car off the road so that you only have to pay motor tax from the date (month) of purchase.

audismelly

Hotwheels wrote: »

:D:D

Tax Discs for sale (reely cheep) don't share this link

nice one:pac::pac::pac::pac::pac::pac::pac:

Guy:Incognito

AudiChris wrote: »

declare the car off the road so that you only have to pay motor tax from the date (month) of purchase.

Regardless of what the garage do he will only have to pay from when (begining of the month) he purchases it.

audismelly

Stekelly wrote: »

Regardless of what the garage do he will only have to pay from when (begining of the month) he purchases it.

correct. of course your not going to backdate a car where you were not the registered owner

-Chris-

So if you buy a car from a garage the tax office will automatically know the previous owner was a garage and will only charge you from the month of purchase? There's no additional paperwork?

(I haven't bought a car in a while, I'm not clear on this).

Guy:Incognito

AudiChris wrote: »

So if you buy a car from a garage the tax office will automatically know the previous owner was a garage and will only charge you from the month of purchase? There's no additional paperwork?

(I haven't bought a car in a while, I'm not clear on this).

Yeah , your only liable for things from the day you buy it. I dont know if they know the previous owner was a garg but it makes no difference if it was privatly owned, garage owned or owned by the taoiseach (to the new owner)

colm_mcm

I think I know where the confusion is coming from, assuming the OP signs the change of ownership form today:

Audismelly is only liable for tax from the beginning of this month.

But the car has no tax disc. Audismelly wants a tax disc straight away and doesn't want to wait for the Dept to process the change of ownership and then send back the reg cert - in which case, the change of ownership would be recorded on the cert as being in August and he'd automatically be charged from the beginning of the month. - but he'd be driving around without tax for at least 2 weeks, which brings him into September.

One way around this is for the garage to tax it in their own name from the start of August to the end of October, presuming they've done an RF105 into their name (If they haven't they can still tax the car for 3 months if they bring a completed RF105 along with a completed RF100A form (tax renewal form) and a copy of the garage insurance cert.

L-M

peasant wrote: »

I've got some letters for you:



please feel free to use them in your next post (in other words: no more textspeak, please)

In all fairness, it's just force of habit. I could be doing alot worse.

Wizard007

Totally off topic I know but ever so slightly related. I remember in the 80's my Dad had a car and Mom had not. Mom not having a car was a nightmare for her as she had to drop Dad 11 miles to work in the morning, then come home, get all of us ready for school (there were 8 of us), do school run, shopping etc etc, do afternoon school run, get dinner, rush out and collect Dad from work.

Anyway ye get the picture.

Dad had a second car he picked up in a yard for parts, same make, model and colour. So he got a brainwave.....He'd put the car on the road so they would both have their own car. Not willing to fork out for second insurance and a second tax disc (the huge differance so little money made in those days) he made up two number plates identical to the original car and stuck them on it. Copied the insurance disc and tax disc, on to the window they went:eek: I can not remember exactly how long it lasted for but it was funny. I could be at our local village and one red renault with number plate such and such would go up the road and the other come down. Someone would be looking for Dad, "he's at such a place" "no he's not, I saw his car where-ever just while ago"

Anyway, just something this thread reminded me of. And please, no moral high ground comments

L-M

Wizard007 wrote: »

Anyway, just something this thread reminded me of. And please, no moral high ground comments

Lol expect loads from the always moral boardsies.

Funny story, i'm can imagine one car passing through a check point, and 20 seconds later the same car with some1 else driving it passes through again haha

audismelly

colm_mcm wrote: »

I think I know where the confusion is coming from, assuming the OP signs the change of ownership form today:

Audismelly is only liable for tax from the beginning of this month.

But the car has no tax disc. Audismelly wants a tax disc straight away and doesn't want to wait for the Dept to process the change of ownership and then send back the reg cert - in which case, the change of ownership would be recorded on the cert as being in August and he'd automatically be charged from the beginning of the month. - but he'd be driving around without tax for at least 2 weeks, which brings him into September.

One way around this is for the garage to tax it in their own name from the start of August to the end of October, presuming they've done an RF105 into their name (If they haven't they can still tax the car for 3 months if they bring a completed RF105 along with a completed RF100A form (tax renewal form) and a copy of the garage insurance cert.

thanks colm thats exactly my prob,id be losing a month.
i doubt the garage would tax it in there own name though.
cheers though ,you explained it better than i could. the moral high grounders just see black and white

Guy:Incognito

audismelly wrote: »

the moral high grounders just see black and white

The law tends to work that way and is quite clear. You knew you were asking how to avoid paying tax (for as long as possible to begin with) so I dont think your in a position to moan about people taking the high ground.

audismelly

Stekelly wrote: »

The law tends to work that way and is quite clear. You knew you were asking how to avoid paying tax (for as long as possible to begin with) so I dont think your in a position to moan about people taking the high ground.

so u never break the speed limit or stay in a pub after closing time?
i was just putting the question out there .my boss at work staggers his tax 3mnths on off and gets his mate to siqn it off,i was just curious.
nevermind pay tax for the month of august when il just drive it for two to three days.
i wasnt sure so i put the question out there .is that a crime?

-Chris-

If it's all about August, would you not go to the Gardai in Sept and get it stamped off the road to end of August?

Wizard007

Lads, ye have it all wrong. Don't tax the car at all. Sure, if you get caught your contact in the guards will surely dig you out of trouble. And, if you weight up the chances and amount of times against the cost of tax, well you just might make a saving Happy days!!!!!:rolleyes:

audismelly

AudiChris wrote: »

If it's all about August, would you not go to the Gardai in Sept and get it stamped off the road to end of August?

thats what il do ,cheers