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Upgrading uATX form packard Bell iMedia

  • 16-08-2008 8:36pm
    #1
    Closed Accounts Posts: 774 ✭✭✭


    Hi guys

    Before I venture on this project, I thought I would ask the experts if there is a point in bothering

    My main computer is a high end work laptop. A couple of years ago as I had a montior and keyboard I bought a cheap tower to surf net at home etc.

    Anyhow the specs are microATX form factor motherboard with celeron D and integrated graphics and audio, the usual cheap computer crap. I upgraded ram to 1gb.

    I now would like a pc which is capable of editing hd footage which essentially means decent graphics, high end dual core 2, or maybe quadcore with at least 4gb ram.

    I can
    1. Buy a new tower

    2. I am wondering if I can upgrade

    So can I get a uATX board which can house a decent chip or even quadcore and do with my current case etc and would this work out cheaper.

    And can I do this in stages, i.e. can I buy motherboard fisrt which will be able to house my current celeron D, then upgrade chip and ram later?

    Where should I start looking!

    Thanks!


Comments

  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,314 ✭✭✭sink


    uATX and microATX are infact two names for the same thing so there should be no problem using your old case.

    Celeron D's were made for both the socket 478s and LGA775, if yours is LGA775 you should be able to replace the board now and upgrade the cpu later. However if it is a 478 i'm afraid that's an old standard and is not compatible with LGA775 which is what all the core 2 cpu's use. So you would need to upgrade the board and the cpu at the same time.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 774 ✭✭✭PoleStar


    Hi

    Thanks for such a quick reply

    As you said I just found out its a 478 socket so I will need to buy board and chip at same time

    If I just buy these to start, will I still be able to use my current dvd and ram etc?

    And can I buy a board with some integrated graphics/audio but which I can upgrade later so I can spread the cost if you get hwat I am saying?

    You think it will work out cheaper this way to upgrade to get a pc capable of running vista EASILY and also editing high def video?


  • Moderators, Education Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 35,125 Mod ✭✭✭✭AlmightyCushion


    You'll be able to use the dvd drive. Not sure about the ram. You'll need to check what type it is. If it's ddr2 then you're sorted, if it's ddr you'll need new ram as well. When buying the board make sure it has integrated graphics and a pci express slot. Then you'll be able to upgrade it.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 774 ✭✭✭PoleStar


    Ok cool thanks

    I will get searching

    Any good sites as to what components I need for intended use

    eg If I want avchd video editing, what I need in terms of processor, board etc, to run vista etc what would be ideal

    I dont want to go buying the best and then find out I could have got away with less.

    I wont be using for gaming but will want good vista experience and high def video editing


  • Moderators, Education Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 35,125 Mod ✭✭✭✭AlmightyCushion


    I'm pretty sure video editing is all cpu so don't worry about graphics card too much. For vista 2GBs ram minimum (although it's so cheap you may as well get 4GBs) and a half decent dual core cpu.


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  • Moderators, Education Moderators, Home & Garden Moderators Posts: 8,260 Mod ✭✭✭✭Jonathan


    Bear in mind that if it is a uATX the case might not be large enough to accomodate a large gfx card.

    You will also need a new psu if you are getting a high end gfx card. Some of those cases are not standard size psu's


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,567 ✭✭✭daveharnett


    PoleStar wrote: »
    Any good sites as to what components I need for intended use

    eg If I want avchd video editing, what I need in terms of processor, board etc, to run vista etc what would be ideal

    I dont want to go buying the best and then find out I could have got away with less.

    I wont be using for gaming but will want good vista experience and high def video editing
    As far as websites go, dabs.ie and komplett.ie would be popular. hardwareversand.de is a little cheaper than both of the above, but slower and more expensive to deliver.

    As regards what to go for, I'd say a quad core q6600 (150) would be ideal for video editing. 4 gigs of ram (pc2-6400) can be had for less than 70 quid. As others have said, video card isn't a big deal, just make sure it has the outputs you need (hdtv, hdmi, whatever).


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 774 ✭✭✭PoleStar


    Is 4Gb Ram sufficient to have a quite fast PC with vista or woudl I need 8Gb as the board I am now looking at which has in built nvidia has a max of 4bg ram

    ASUS P5N-EM


  • Moderators, Education Moderators, Home & Garden Moderators Posts: 8,260 Mod ✭✭✭✭Jonathan


    PoleStar wrote: »
    Is 4Gb Ram sufficient to have a quite fast PC with vista or woudl I need 8Gb as the board I am now looking at which has in built nvidia has a max of 4bg ram

    ASUS P5N-EM
    Waste of time. 3gb is an over kill tbh...


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 774 ✭✭✭PoleStar


    Cool thanks for that

    Although not sure I agree about the 3gb as plenty.

    When I look at system requirements for some of the video editors for editing hi def footage such as AVCHD, some require as a minimum dual core 2.2 with 2gb ram, as a MINIMUM!

    Anyhows, what about the board I mentioned, the ASUS P5N-EM

    Has in built NVidia but I am concerned bout limit of 4gb of ram in case when I do get to edit video that I find a bit slow and want more.


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  • Moderators, Education Moderators, Home & Garden Moderators Posts: 8,260 Mod ✭✭✭✭Jonathan


    You need a 64bit os if you wanna use more than 3.25gb.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 774 ✭✭✭PoleStar


    jmccrohan wrote: »
    You need a 64bit os if you wanna use more than 3.25gb.

    Thanks, are the quad core chips 64 bit? I think I saw a 6600 for EU150 on elara


  • Moderators, Education Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 35,125 Mod ✭✭✭✭AlmightyCushion


    Yes they are.


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