The Script

TelePaul

Does that ad for The Script's album drive anyone else crazy? I know it's only a ten second clip but there's so much sizzle in the vox and cymbals, it sounds positively lo-fi to me....

Rant over. Just annoys me.

tweeky

Sounds like the same sizzle and distortion as everything on 98/104/2fm etc.....
it's whatever way the Optimo or equiv is set to gain the loudest signal.
I am sure all the Tara's and Ciara's on the Dort give a toss about that when they listen to it on der mobiles since they have just put it to No.1 in Ireland and prob Uk on Sunday.

Sham Squire

(Ever so slightly Off Topic)Just a thought, but having read a lot of articles over the last year or so detailing the background of a lot of the big bands around at the moment, it seems to me that there's a lot of very professonal people doing well in the industry.
What I mean is that bands like the Kooks and the band you mention, The Script, and countless others have a very good grounding in the industry side of things. Brit school graduates and the like. Is it increasingly the case that successful bands these days are far more music BUSINESS than MUSIC business? It's always been necessary to have both but I get the impression that a lot of the successful acts around at the moment would be just as happy to be acting,tv presenting, or anything else performy and probably wouldn't be doing music at all if it wasn't paying the bills. It's being referred to as Mortgage Indie in some quarters and on a hopeful note, maybe it's part of the same cycle that has always gone on in music (like the Dions,etc of the 60's and the Boybands of the 90's) and maybe theres a punk style revolution around the corner.
Then again maybe not.

sei046

Your probably right. Im not so sure thats the case with bands like the kooks though, I dont like them at all dont get me wrong but I think that perception just comes from the way in which they are marketed to us. I think your right though that A lot of modern acts are attracted to the performance side of things, especially now since tuning and quality of voice is not a must in the industry.

Savman

An Irish act riding high in the charts and all we can do is grumble about it, noice.

sei046

http://www.irma.ie/aucharts.asp

No.29 I wrote that! (its actually dropped!)

iMax

Sounds like a lot of sour grapes going around to me.

They're doing well, they're Irish, they can write their own music & play their own songs, but we're gonna give out about them because they didn't play every ****hole around the country first.

The Irish truly are a nation of begrudgers.

unclebill98

Savman wrote: »

An Irish act riding high in the charts and all we can do is grumble about it, noice.

iMax wrote: »

Sounds like a lot of sour grapes going around to me.

They're doing well, they're Irish, they can write their own music & play their own songs, but we're gonna give out about them because they didn't play every ****hole around the country first.

The Irish truly are a nation of begrudgers.

+1

RxQueen

I like the script, there album is good,seen them play in dublin before really nice guys, best thing to come out of ireland in a while and actually do well, so give them a break.

ogy

An Irish act riding high in the charts and all we can do is grumble about it, noice.

Sounds like a lot of sour grapes going around to me.

They're doing well, they're Irish, they can write their own music & play their own songs, but we're gonna give out about them because they didn't play every ****hole around the country first.

The Irish truly are a nation of begrudgers.

what a load of ****e:)

who cares where a band is from? i reserve my right to begrudge successful music if its a load of rubbish, regardless of the origins of the creators

sei046

Lol was he really ragging on them? I took it that the sound in the ad was his problem? Maybe im wrong. Never heard them!

Savman

ogy wrote: »

what a load of ****e:)

who cares where a band is from? i reserve my right to begrudge successful music if its a load of rubbish, regardless of the origins of the creators

Go and YouTube The Script on Balcony TV it was recorded ages ago when they were another unknown band on the fringe. Whether you're a fan or not, it's quite obvious they are not 'a load of rubbish' :rolleyes:

For the first time in a while, I can actually say there's a band on that level who actually deserve to be there. I think that hits a nerve with some active fame-seekers on here.

sei046

Savman wrote: »

I think that hits a nerve with some active fame-seekers on here.

?? I dont know the band but I dont know if that is a really well informed comment?

Hardly seems fair to say about a lad who said he doesnt like the sound on their ad?

i57dwun4yb1pt8

sounds badly produced to me

but also can we stop knocking every irish act that puts its head above the parapet of local heroism ?

what i find sad is that this is it so far , where are all the others ?

there does appear to be a media apartheid in ireland regarding irish acts .

1/ poppy / radio friendly alot of dross = instant media attention
record company budget out the ying yang

2/ indie/ rocky/ metally / different what ever - has to break its hole gigging every spongy floored p1ss soaked pit in the country and barely gets a mention .

thats what makes me sad - that we dont have any diversity - and acts like the script get shat on - in many cases by jealousy - cos they are suddenly all over the place in a frenzy .

its the system , not the bands that are at fault .

Savman

sei046 wrote: »

?? I dont know the band but I dont know if that is a really well informed comment?

Hardly seems fair to say about a lad who said he doesnt like the sound on their ad?

Fair enough but the OP himself is not who I'm getting at, it's the lot of us. I don't see any threads around here praising said band.
As iMax so eloquently put:

Sounds like a lot of sour grapes going around to me.

They're doing well, they're Irish, they can write their own music & play their own songs, but we're gonna give out about them because they didn't play every ****hole around the country first.

The Irish truly are a nation of begrudgers.

Maybe it's much ado about nothing, and one man is merely annoyed by one random TV ad. But then again he did post in Music Production, not After Hours. Which leads one to assume he has issues with the production of the Script's stuff. It's no better or worse than anything else on the airwaves, but alas the others aren't local lads so they didn't warrant a special thread.

sei046

I dont really think there is anything wrong with their situation. They sound like the sound and thats that, I like them or I dont.

I dont listen to music for any other reason than music so I couldnt give a toss what way your man wears his hair or if it sounds like every other band. If it sounds like everyone other band it probably just means I like every other band so.

I dont give a toss whether their irish. Is the music good, yes/no. I am not going to give a ****e album any more listens because its Irish tbh.

Im not sure the irish are a nation of begrudgers. I think its just people who dont have much experience in what it takes/ doesnt take. People who are involved in a lot of different aspects of music, or even in a certain aspect but in a serious way tend to have to deal with bigger guys in the scene. This is only a good thing. Like it or lump these are the guys who had the cop on to get where they are. So you usually wont hear anyone with a bit of experience or knowledge pipe on about these are ****e or they are ****e. They dont begrudge because their irish!

ogy

Go and YouTube The Script on Balcony TV it was recorded ages ago when they were another unknown band on the fringe. Whether you're a fan or not, it's quite obvious they are not 'a load of rubbish'

i hate statements like that, they don't mean anything

i don't care if a band are "tight", or technically gifted or whatever, at the end of the day music is art and art is about taste and taste is subjective, so if i say i think there rubbish, thats as valid as anything else.

Sham Squire

I can't believe some of the rubbish being spoken here in defense of The Script. They are a heavily funded project featuring ex boy band members (mytown was the band). I don't begrudge them anything but I don't accept that the original poster can't say a bad word about them because they're Irish. See the reviews of their album, they're getting panned by everyone accross the water. They are successful for the same reason that a lot of bands these days are successful. They follow a formula and they have truckloads of money behind them. That's not begrudgery, that's just reality. They are not critically acclaimed and I'm sure they couldn't give a toss, they're gonna be huge. Just 'cause they're Irish doesn't mean they are anything to be proud of. Are you flying the flag for Westlife? You think The Script are different because they have guitars and drums in they're videos? A boyband is a boyband is a boyband. Just cause they sound like Maroon 5 doesn't mean they're any more authentic than Westlife.
And getting back to Brit school graduates, The Kooks all went to the British version of Fame as did Kate Nash, Leona Lewis, Katie Melua, The Feeling, Adele, Amy Winehouse and plenty of others. Google the brit school website and see. Believe me when I say I don't begrudge these people anything. Their money, fame, lifestyle, any of it. I just wonder is all this professionalism a sign of things to come or is it a cycle that the music industry always goes through? Apologies again for taking this thing off topic. The original poster was referring to the sizzle. I haven't heard the add in question so I can't comment on how it sounds.

unclebill98

So if i heavily fund a piece of dog **** will i make it famous or does the dog **** have to have talent?

OP was complaining about the production of the ad. I think it sounds great and I like the band. They've a good sound going for them.

PaulBrewer

Sham Squire wrote: »

I just wonder is all this professionalism a sign of things to come or is it a cycle that the music industry always goes through?

It's nothing new , it never is.
It's just the observers are new - that's what allows the cycle to continue. Not even the REACTIONS are new!!!

Glen Miller in the 40s
Colonel Tom / Elvis in the 50s
Larry Parnes/ Marty Wilde-Georgie Fame etc. in the 60s
Brian Epstein / Beatles in the 60s.
Kit Lambert/Chris Stamp /The Who 60s/70s
Peter Grant/ Led Zepplin 70s
Robert Stigwood / Bee Gees- Abba 70s
Malcolm McClaren/Sex Pistols 70s
Paul McGuinness/ U2 80s 90s 00s
Miles + Ian Copeland/ The Police 80s
Stock/Aitken/Waterman 80s
Andy Ross - David Balfe/ Blur 90s
Allan McGee / Oasis 90s
Sub Pop / 90s
Tony Wilson, Alan Erasmus, Peter Saville Factory/ 70s/80s/90s
Jay Z - P Diddy - Dr. Dre 2000s
Louis Walsh - Simon Cowell / Boyzone-westlife 2000s
The Script /2008

It's all variations of the same thing!

Some of the above is unquestionably art, some isn't - the all have the one thing in common. Where 'art' successfully meets commerce.







You only become aware of art when it IS marketed. ask Andy Warhol , Damien Hirst, Tracy Emin, Grayson Perry even our local Graham Knuttel. (well maybe not Andy!)

If you know about it outside of your immediate social group you've been succesfully marketed to.

That's the way it is, always has been .....and ...... guess what?
Fill in the blank yourself.


p.s. I don't remember much before the 40s.....

Sham Squire

PaulBrewer wrote: »

It's nothing new , it never is.
It's just the observers are new - that's what allows the cycle to continue. Not even the REACTIONS are new!!!


Brian Epstein / Beatles in the 60s.

Allan McGee / Oasis 90s
Sub Pop / 90s
Tony Wilson, Alan Erasmus, Peter Saville Factory/ 70s/80s/90s

If you know your music biz history you'll know that these are examples of some of the least professional people to ever have success in the music industry. These people had success in spite of themselves. My point is that I don't see any Tony Wilsons or Allan McGees around now. No mavericks just old pros. And if you like the sound of the Script my heart goes out to you.

PaulBrewer

Sham Squire wrote: »

If you know your music biz history you'll know that these are examples of some of the least professional people to ever have success in the music industry. These people had success in spite of themselves. My point is that I don't see any Tony Wilsons or Allan McGees around now. No mavericks just old pros. And if you like the sound of the Script my heart goes out to you.

Not even heard em yet! Couldn't be dealin with Radio, bar BBC 6 Music.

unclebill98

Sham Squire wrote: »

And if you like the sound of the Script my heart goes out to you.

Are you reffering to there sound or the sound of the production. Seeing its in this forum?

PaulBrewer

Who did I see on TV playing the V festival? The Squipt!
I remember nothing of their music - them boys have a big ole career ahead of them!

Sham Squire

PaulBrewer wrote: »

Who did I see on TV playing the V festival? The Squipt!
I remember nothing of their music - them boys have a big ole career ahead of them!

TelePaul

This thread got real gay, real fast. I just don't like the way the cymbals sound, that's all. Begrudge my ass.

PaulBrewer

TelePaul wrote: »

This thread got real gay, real fast. I just don't like the way the cymbals sound, that's all. Begrudge my ass.

That's the music biz for you!

frobisher

TelePaul wrote: »

This thread got real gay, real fast. I just don't like the way the cymbals sound, that's all. Begrudge my ass.

Haha!! MP quote of the year and one I intend paraphrasing in the future!