Idiot Athletes

bealbocht

Is it just me, or are athletes , cyclists, gymnasts.. anything in the Olympics really, who take “performance enhancing” drugs , a bit thick..

Or am just unaware of how many are taking them and getting away with it.

It seems to me , they are going to get caught at some stage.. and them saying
“Oh my coach gave me that for … em headaches” .. , doesn’t really cut any ice..

sdanseo

Randomness in the extreme. In before the lock methinks

amacachi

For some of them, no drugs = no medals, drugs = medals which they may or may not have taken back. Simple choice really.

hussey

Well Michelle Smith still has her medals

robinph

hussey wrote: »

Well Michelle Smith still has her medals

Proof that whiskey is a perfomance enhancing drug.

thebman

I think you'll find most of them are on drugs. Certainly most of the medal winners are.

There are plenty of undetectable drugs and probably some performance enhancing ones that they'll take which are legal because they haven't been proven to be harmful yet (emphasise on the yet).

javaboy

There's a field of thought that says the Olympic organisers are happy to catch a certain "quota" of offenders knowing that many are slipping under the net. The idea is that they catch enough to be credible but not enough that the games would become an absolute farce (like the Tour de France became for a while).

To the conspiracy theories forum!

Dragan

brim4brim wrote: »

I think you'll find most of them are on drugs. Certainly most of the medal winners are.

There are plenty of undetectable drugs and probably some performance enhancing ones that they'll take which are legal because they haven't been proven to be harmful yet (emphasise on the yet).

LoL, even the banned substances are not as bad for your health as people would have you believe. Things like steroids would be the worst and they were all developed as medicines. Amazing how a correctly cycled course of steroids will help a cancer or aids sufferer but it will apparently kill a very healthy human.

javaboy

Dragan wrote: »

LoL, even the banned substances are not as bad for your health as people would have you believe. Things like steroids would be the worst and they were all developed as medicines. Amazing how a correctly cycled course of steroids will help a cancer or aids sufferer but it will apparently kill a very healthy human.

+1. The banned substance list for athletes has nothing at all to do with illegal drugs.

kaimera

bealbocht wrote: »

Is it just me, or are athletes , cyclists, gymnasts.. anything in the Olympics really, who take “performance enhancing” drugs , a bit thick..

Or am just unaware of how many are taking them and getting away with it.

It seems to me , they are going to get caught at some stage.. and them saying
“Oh my coach gave me that for … em headaches” .. , doesn’t really cut any ice..

Why just the folks at the olympics?

You'd think thats where drug taking only happens :rolleyes:

Overheal

Well lets see, in Todays News it was they were Investigating half of Chinese gymnastics team of being underage (and from the sound of it theyre dead right) But of course the US gymnastics team is getting raped in the competitions I hear so of course this investigation would be happening.

On the Other hand Michael Phelps has broken major world records (from last I hear he has taken all 5 gold in swimming so far) but he also wears these really fancy laboratory-designed swimming bottoms as well that greatly reduce his drag in the water... so you really have to wonder how much of it is him.

edit: now hes 6 for 6. 2 to go. its way too crazy.

robinph

javaboy wrote: »

+1. The banned substance list for athletes has nothing at all to do with illegal drugs.

Yep. I think I'm probably on at least a couple of banned drugs, they haven't killed me yet.

They are also not helping me win any olympic events though.

Dragan

Overheal wrote: »

On the Other hand Michael Phelps has broken major world records (from last I hear he has taken all 5 gold in swimming so far) but he also wears these really fancy laboratory-designed swimming bottoms as well that greatly reduce his drag in the water... so you really have to wonder how much of it is him.

Phelps is like Lance Armstrong, it's actually difficult to fathom how his body even works he is that far ahead of the rest of us.

He's a gentic throwback to when we all were in the water, a machine designed for swimming the same way Armstrong was a machine designed to cycling.

monkeyfudge

Dragan wrote: »

Amazing how a correctly cycled course of steroids will help a cancer or aids sufferer but it will apparently kill a very healthy human.

Because in the case of cancer and AIDS it is being used to supplement the bodies normal functions that have been weakened from disease. And there still are risks but it's a measured response to a serious illness.

For a healthy person to use them, as the OP put it, is idiotic.

Dragan

monkeyfudge wrote: »

Because in the case of cancer and AIDS it is being used to supplement the bodies normal functions that have been weakened from disease. And there still are risks but it's a measured response to a serious illness.

For a healthy person to use them, as the OP put it, is idiotic.

I would disagree. Correctly cycled and sourced there is very little wrong with it. Staying away from orals is always a good idea to avoid liver damage but injectiables like Test etc have nothing wrong with them when cycled right and using the correct PCT.

Test and GH are now being administered in "Wellness" clinics for crying out loud. I would estimate within the next 20 years they will be readily available in this country for those who can afford them.

Look, i don't particularly agree with steroid use....I'm just not willing to allow the media boogeyman to kick up again just because the Olympics are on.

monkeyfudge

But it's supposed to be an athletic competition... not a chemistry competition where whoever gets the best balance of growth hormones dumped in their system wins.

Dragan

monkeyfudge wrote: »

But it's supposed to be an athletic competition... not a chemistry competition where whoever gets the best balance of growth hormones dumped in their system wins.

And i agree with you and am most assuredly not disputing that.

Overheal

Dragan wrote: »

Phelps is like Lance Armstrong, it's actually difficult to fathom how his body even works he is that far ahead of the rest of us.

He's a gentic throwback to when we all were in the water, a machine designed for swimming the same way Armstrong was a machine designed to cycling.

that and gizmodo read my mind today. according to them Speedo was already investigated about the swimsuit tech and it categorically falls legally within the rules

g'wan Phelpy!

monkeyfudge

Dragan wrote: »

And i agree with you and am most assuredly not disputing that.

Ah.. it's just unnecessary medicating annoys me. I currently have a condition that a course of steroids could have cleared up in a little over a week, but I'm taking a longer route to treating it which will take about 2 months instead.

Dragan

monkeyfudge wrote: »

Ah.. it's just unnecessary medicating annoys me. I currently have a condition that a course of steroids could have cleared up in a little over a week, but I'm taking a longer route to treating it which will take about 2 months instead.

Fair play, these things are difficult choices to make. I have had to do the same at times....i've been on some meds that have done more harm than good myself.

daveharnett

I'd be up for the 'doping olympics'. Drug companies would sponsor their athletes (giving them an incentive to keep things fairly safe) and we can see if a human can run a hundred meters in one second.

poodledoodledoo

Overheal wrote: »

On the Other hand Michael Phelps has broken major world records (from last I hear he has taken all 5 gold in swimming so far) but he also wears these really fancy laboratory-designed swimming bottoms as well that greatly reduce his drag in the water... so you really have to wonder how much of it is him.

C'mon that's so unfair. Technology shouldn't have an impact on the games. It's not fair to past participants who've set records.

They should all go naked, that's the only fair way to do it!:pac:

aimsir_te

Dragan wrote: »

Look, i don't particularly agree with steroid use....I'm just not willing to allow the media boogeyman to kick up again just because the Olympics are on.

Its not "just because the olympics is on"!. The olympics is a global assessment of human performance, if the media weren't to comment on drug use it would be neglible on their behalf.

The thing is drug abuse is probably rampant, but you gotta look at it case by case.

Black Swan

Heard someplace that male athletes took a drug prescribed by Pfizer to enhance their performance during bedroom gymnastics.



**B!ue runs!**

jester77

But some of the doping rules are over the top.

Accidentally take the wrong cough syrup, pain killers or asthma inhaler and you are labelled a cheat by the media.

FX Meister

Just you

bealbocht wrote: »

Is it just me, or are athletes , cyclists, gymnasts.. anything in the Olympics really, who take “performance enhancing” drugs , a bit thick..

Or am just unaware of how many are taking them and getting away with it.

It seems to me , they are going to get caught at some stage.. and them saying
“Oh my coach gave me that for … em headaches” .. , doesn’t really cut any ice..

monkeyfudge

daveharnett wrote: »

I'd be up for the 'doping olympics'. Drug companies would sponsor their athletes (giving them an incentive to keep things fairly safe) and we can see if a human can run a hundred meters in one second.

Get rid of the humans altogether and use Aibos... that would be infinitely more entertaining...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7q_6-RxXLO0

javaboy

monkeyfudge wrote: »

Get rid of the humans altogether and use Aibos... that would be infinitely more entertaining...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7q_6-RxXLO0

Performance enhancing batteries would be the next thing. Remember that bunny that could always outlast the others? I always thought that a bit suspect.

Trev M

daveharnett wrote: »

I'd be up for the 'doping olympics'. Drug companies would sponsor their athletes (giving them an incentive to keep things fairly safe) and we can see if a human can run a hundred meters in one second.

+1 It'd be great to see em all off their balls peggin it around like screamin anti christs

Not less drugs more drugs!

barochoc

monkeyfudge wrote: »

But it's supposed to be an athletic competition... not a chemistry competition where whoever gets the best balance of growth hormones dumped in their system wins.

It realy gets up my hoop when I see cr@p like this on forums. I've yet to find a forum that has educated people or experienced people who are qualified to make the comments or make arguments like this!

What do you know about GH (Growth Hormone)? Seriously! Not a lot I reckon. Each & every one of us has growth hormone in our bodies. Some more than others but we all have some. Athletes normaly have higher than avergage growth hormone levels especially those in their teens & early 20's.

Now, injecting GH does not give you any advantage over another athlete in any sport whatsoever! What it does do is it enables your body to grow & repair itself quicker than normal. This means that you must train harder than ever & push yourself through a pain threshold that most of us will thankfully never experience in order to reap the rewards.

I'm not for one minute saying that this is acceptable or that it should be allowed but what I am saying is.... Don't for one minute think that there's a magic pill or injection that instantly gives you .10 of a second on your nearest competitor because that's all cr@p. The media are the worst bunch of idiots for blowing this out of proportion.

I'm a big cycling fan & I can tell you the sport is rife with performance enhancing drugs but I still watch it for one simple reason. I believe if you had the ability to take the drugs out tomorrow the general classification would hardle change. The times would barely change either. It's sad as they're doing terrible damage to their bodies & will pay for it later in life but it's like any drug.... enjoy the glory & buzz now.... worry about the effects later!

Hanley

Overheal wrote: »

On the Other hand Michael Phelps has broken major world records (from last I hear he has taken all 5 gold in swimming so far) but he also wears these really fancy laboratory-designed swimming bottoms as well that greatly reduce his drag in the water... so you really have to wonder how much of it is him.

edit: now hes 6 for 6. 2 to go. its way too crazy.

Ohhh you mean he has some advantage because he's wearing the same gear that EVERYONE else is wearing in the games, and STILL destroying them...?? :rolleyes:

Hanley

barochoc wrote: »

It realy gets up my hoop when I see cr@p like this on forums. I've yet to find a forum that has educated people or experienced people who are qualified to make the comments or make arguments like this!

What do you know about GH (Growth Hormone)? Seriously! Not a lot I reckon. Each & every one of us has growth hormone in our bodies. Some more than others but we all have some. Athletes normaly have higher than avergage growth hormone levels especially those in their teens & early 20's.

Now, injecting GH does not give you any advantage over another athlete in any sport whatsoever! What it does do is it enables your body to grow & repair itself quicker than normal. This means that you must train harder than ever & push yourself through a pain threshold that most of us will thankfully never experience in order to reap the rewards.

I'm not for one minute saying that this is acceptable or that it should be allowed but what I am saying is.... Don't for one minute think that there's a magic pill or injection that instantly gives you .10 of a second on your nearest competitor because that's all cr@p. The media are the worst bunch of idiots for blowing this out of proportion.

I'm a big cycling fan & I can tell you the sport is rife with performance enhancing drugs but I still watch it for one simple reason. I believe if you had the ability to take the drugs out tomorrow the general classification would hardle change. The times would barely change either. It's sad as they're doing terrible damage to their bodies & will pay for it later in life but it's like any drug.... enjoy the glory & buzz now.... worry about the effects later!

Q....F....muthafukn...T!!

The guys on their high horses have absolutely no idea;
A) What it takes to become an internationally competitive athlete
The effect the drugs have on them
C) The sheer proliferation and penetration of them in top level sport. Regardless of this, the best would still be the best.

barochoc

Hanley wrote: »

Q....F....muthafukn...T!!

The guys on their high horses have absolutely no idea;
A) What it takes to become an internationally competitive athlete
The effect the drugs have on them
C) The sheer proliferation and penetration of them in top level sport. Regardless of this, the best would still be the best.

Wow, nice to know there are people who actualy understand the difficulties the athletes go through regardless of cheating or not. The amount of people that believe a pill or injection will turn you or me into an Olympic medalist or World Champion is overwhelming!

Time to wake up people!

Terry

What part of no sports threads in AH do people not understand?

There's a whole fúcking sports catergory to discuss this crap.