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Noise Suppressor

  • 14-08-2008 8:00pm
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 699 ✭✭✭


    I seem to be getting a bit of noise from my pedal board, probably from my power brick + daisy chain setup. It's only really noticeable when I have the overdrive/fuzz pedals on and I'm not playing. Didn't think it was that much of a problem until I heard it through a PA at a gig the other night :eek: . I'm thinking about getting the boss ns2 or something similar. I'm curious though as to how it will effect the overall tone of my guitar. Anyone have any experience with these things?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,291 ✭✭✭-=al=-


    the boss one sucks balls

    ISP decimator is the bees knees for a pedal noise supressor


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,706 ✭✭✭Voodu Child


    Yeah, ISP Decimator is probably the most highly regarded NS pedal.

    The best thing you can do is first take every step to reduce noise, that way the NS pedal doesnt have to work so much. Use good cables, keep AC power and transformers away from cables/pedals etc, check your wiring and shielding, all that kind of jazz.

    The Boss NS probably will affect your tone to a degree, the ISP much less so.

    You should also learn the difference between noise-suppression and a noise gate. Depending on the situation, one may be more suited to the other (and some pedals are a combination). Also, some guys may use both.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,126 ✭✭✭darrenw5094


    That Boss Noise Supressor is a shocker......
    Pure muck....and i'm from County Louth!!!!

    I used it once at the Button Factory in TB and it changed the tone from my gear beyond belief........

    Anyone tried the DBX 166L 19" rack for €235
    I am thinking of that because it has a compessor too.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 29,130 ✭✭✭✭Karl Hungus


    ISP Decimator, accept no substitutes, it's absolutely terrific and you can barely notice any effect on your tone what so ever. Well recommended. ;)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,291 ✭✭✭-=al=-


    i havnt got a decimator but want one, GIME ONE

    they make a rack one too and an other type of pedal but yeah they're cool and cheap enough on ebay


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 699 ✭✭✭ball ox


    cheers lads, looks like the decimator so. Thank God I'm heading to the States soon, the price on Thomann is a big mark up on the dollar :eek:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,126 ✭✭✭darrenw5094


    ISP Decimator, accept no substitutes, it's absolutely terrific and you can barely notice any effect on your tone what so ever. Well recommended. ;)

    Are you talkin' about the 19" rack version or the stomp effect pedal???


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 29,130 ✭✭✭✭Karl Hungus


    The stomp.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,126 ✭✭✭darrenw5094


    I almost purcashed the DBX 166 XL.
    http://www.thomann.de/ie/dbx_166xl.htm

    But this might be another option.
    What about a compression.....is the Keeley the best set up???


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,180 ✭✭✭Seziertisch


    Is the noise present when you use the pedals in question with a battery outside of the chain? If it isn't, then I would suggest it would probably make more sense to buy a power supply with isolated outputs. The Voodoo Lab Pedal Power works well. I have also heard good things about the Burkey Flatliner.

    Does it change depending on what guitar you are using or the position of the guitar? Then maybe consider getting your guitar shielded/grounded properly or possible going for noiseless pickups of some sort.

    It makes more sense to fix the problem at its source as opposed to remedying it with a noise gate.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,180 ✭✭✭Seziertisch



    But this might be another option.
    What about a compression.....is the Keeley the best set up???

    I have played a Keeley and found it good. It was maybe a bit too sterile for my tastes. I dunno, its a good comp but not the be all and end all some might have you believe.

    The Homebrew Electronics CPR is a great sounding compressor particularly for country, sounds great with strats and Teles etc. Quite the vintage vibe going. Just a compression level and a make-up gain control, but really musical.

    The T-Rex Compnova is another good one, very transparent and flexible. I much preferred it the the Keeley and depending on the application I would consider it a bit better than the Homebrew. Thomann are selling the TC Electronic version of this at a significant cut.

    The Janglebox is also quite good. It really comes into its own with a 12-string guitar, although the voicing switch makes it very usable for a lot of different applications. It is great for all things country/pop with some serious vintage mojo happening. Although I would say that as a straight compressor I would probably prefer the Homebrew or the Compnova.

    Generally my experience with compressors has been that single coil guitars really benefit, humbuckers a lot less so (at least when set clean). The only time I have really used a comp with a humbucker was to smoothen out the signal before hitting other effects.

    A good comp is indispensable with a clean picked single coil but otherwise not such a necessity in my experience.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,117 ✭✭✭Eoin Madsen


    Is the noise present when you use the pedals in question with a battery outside of the chain? If it isn't, then I would suggest it would probably make more sense to buy a power supply with isolated outputs. The Voodoo Lab Pedal Power works well. I have also heard good things about the Burkey Flatliner.

    Does it change depending on what guitar you are using or the position of the guitar? Then maybe consider getting your guitar shielded/grounded properly or possible going for noiseless pickups of some sort.

    It makes more sense to fix the problem at its source as opposed to remedying it with a noise gate.

    +1

    Noise reduction and noise gating only treat symptoms of a problem. I would look for the cause of the problem first.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 699 ✭✭✭ball ox


    its not the guitar, amp or the leads, its the power supply. I power 9 pedals using some generic power brick thingy which is fine on its own. the brick has only 5 outs so one out is a daisy chain. I think this is the problem. Sometimes there is no noise at all but it is very sensitive and usually effected by lights & other aplliances. Thing is, the power supply fits nicely into my case :pac: so would rather not change it


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,126 ✭✭✭darrenw5094


    I have played a Keeley and found it good. It was maybe a bit too sterile for my tastes. I dunno, its a good comp but not the be all and end all some might have you believe.

    The T-Rex Compnova is another good one, very transparent and flexible. I much preferred it the the Keeley and depending on the application I would consider it a bit better than the Homebrew. Thomann are selling the TC Electronic version of this at a significant cut.

    Which TC Electronic are you talkin' about
    http://www.musicstore.de/en_EN/IEP/TC-Electronic-C-300-Compressor/Gate-digit.-2-Kanal-19-1HE/art-REC0004436-000
    or
    http://www.musicstore.de/en_EN/IEP/TC-Electronic-C-400XL-Compressor/Gate-digit.-2-Kanal-Multiband-19-1HE/art-REC0005429-000


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,180 ✭✭✭Seziertisch


    http://www.thomann.de/ie/tc_electronic_vintage_compressor_refurbished.htm

    They only seem to have refurbished ones left, but it should be fine. Full warranty etc.. A great compressor pedal.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,291 ✭✭✭-=al=-


    that comp looks pretty cool, i still like my lil marshall one though, works great


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