GM Food Reality

thewaltzer

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/7557644.stm


I have always been very skeptical of GM food.

You've got these scientists thinking they are Gods, tampering with nature. But worst of all, the food of the world is now controlled by a handful of large multinationals in nothing more than a monopoly.

If I had my way Ireland would be back producing its own food, not paying farmers to sit on their asses, or to play biofuels.

But I suppose paddy the farmer is more at home in brown thomas these days , spending those EU benefits on a young piece of totty.

thelordofcheese

thewaltzer wrote: »

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/7557644.stm


I have always been very skeptical of GM food.

You've got these scientists thinking they are Gods, tampering with nature. But worst of all, the food of the world is now controlled by a handful of large multinationals in nothing more than a monopoly.

If I had my way Ireland would be back producing its own food, not paying farmers to sit on their asses, or to play biofuels.

But I suppose paddy the farmer is more at home in brown thomas these days , spending those EU benefits on a young piece of totty.

Reality and you need to sit down and have a chat, you seem to have become a little estranged.

Karoma

Isn't it ironic? Don't you think? = "I wuz banned because I posted a link that went contrary to the popular media scaremongering about environmental destruction."
And yet, here we are - scaremongering, on the words of an inbred nutjob.

Re: Lines about farmers... you're trolling or you're ignorant. Which is it?

brianthebard

Op you know nothing about farming or farmers.

Captain Darling

Insightful, informative, well thought out........... All things which this thread are not.

Silenceisbliss

i dont really care, it tastes nice and im not dead yet...

dade

yummy GM foods me wants more

Sir Digby Chicken Caesar

yeah, those 3 billion starving people can just go and **** themselves. We're growing organic!

monkeyfudge

Nothing really wrong with GM in theory... But of course companies are very irresponsible with what they do. Monsanto are pretty low even by multi-national corporation standards.

thewaltzer

Karoma wrote: »

Isn't it ironic? Don't you think? = "I wuz banned because I posted a link that went contrary to the popular media scaremongering about environmental destruction."
And yet, here we are - scaremongering, on the words of an inbred nutjob.

Re: Lines about farmers... you're trolling or you're ignorant. Which is it?

You fail to see the link Karoma.

The environmental awareness push & GM foods go hand in hand.

The push for GM foods is based on scaremongering and baseless twaddle.

My post yesterday about the environmental awareness hoax at least showed some media outlets are skeptical. My post today again shows a skeptical view of popular opinion and culture.

My comments about the farmers are in reference to the compliance to accept the short term benefits of handouts without looking at the bigger picture.

I know two farmers who make more money now then at the height of their business, plus they dont have to get up at 5 to milk the cows :pac:

But when the EU stops the benefits and with the gradual build up in the media of food shortages, where will we be? Back to growing spuds in the ditches?

monkeyfudge

|-*SxyDubGrrl93*-| wrote: »

yeah, those 3 billion starving people can just go and **** themselves. We're growing organic!

Unfortunately GM is more likely to be used to create seeds that once planted don't produce any new seeds, so the farmer becomes completely dependent on the seed sellers each year.

Sir Digby Chicken Caesar

yeah, that is a problem alright, but in the short term the yield from a GM crop is usually pretty large which is going to be neccesary if we're ever going to get around to feeding all 7 billion of us.
the HQ of monsanto can always be firebombed after everyone's had a good meal.

R0ot

I for one welcome our new GM grown vegetable overlords. :pac:

Steve_o

In Soviet Russia GM foods grow you!

KnifeWRENCH

Oh well, if Prince Charles, renowned expert on all things scientific, is warning us then it must be true.

I don't want no GM food that's 5 times it's normal size and radioactive and that vibrates while making noises "wum....wum...wum..."

thewaltzer

monkeyfudge wrote: »

Unfortunately GM is more likely to be used to create seeds that once planted don't produce any new seeds, so the farmer becomes completely dependent on the seed sellers each year.

Terminator seeds it that right?

Keeps the farmer going back to the coporations every year to buy more. :mad:

This GM food is another big scam on the public.

thewaltzer

|-*SxyDubGrrl93*-| wrote: »

yeah, that is a problem alright, but in the short term the yield from a GM crop is usually pretty large which is going to be neccesary if we're ever going to get around to feeding all 7 billion of us.
the HQ of monsanto can always be firebombed after everyone's had a good meal.

Why dont all the farmers start growing food, then we would all be full, without any of this GM rubbish.

The bigger yield is a con aswell.

The diversity existant in natural seeds protects many from attack by pests.

If everyone is using the one seed, then one attack by pests would wipe out the whole yield :eek:

brianthebard

|-*SxyDubGrrl93*-| wrote: »

yeah, that is a problem alright, but in the short term the yield from a GM crop is usually pretty large which is going to be neccesary if we're ever going to get around to feeding all 7 billion of us. the HQ of monsanto can always be firebombed after everyone's had a good meal.

sorry but thats wrong,gm crops do not produce higher yields,some are actually worse.The main benefit of gm is that monsanto owns the copyright to its seeds and can will and does sue any farmer who breaches copyright in any way.The purpose of gm is not solving world hunger,its increased profits.

mikewest

brianthebard wrote: »

sorry but thats wrong,gm crops do not produce higher yields,some are actually worse.The main benefit of gm is that monsanto owns the copyright to its seeds and can will and does sue any farmer who breaches copyright in any way.The purpose of gm is not solving world hunger,its increased profits.

You forgot something, GM seeds were also created to be resistant to herbicides the patent of which rested with the GM seed manufacturer thereby increasing the companies profits via two revenue streams. Farmers would buy the herbicide resistant seeds and then control weeds by means of the patented herbicide. Farmers only come into this equation as a revenue source for the company and the consumer is not even a marginal factor in the equation, plus the hungry masses of the world can sod off because they don't have enough money to buy either the seeds or the herbicides.

ScumLord

I don't have any problems with GM in theory but I don't think it's necessary. We should be managing our food better and selling local food locally. I don't like mass produced food on so many levels. I don't like big business controlling food either but it's the consumer that's to blame for all that. They may be evil in their business practices but we're the stupid one's for supporting them.

monkeyfudge

It's certainly a scary path to go down when it's possible for companies to copyright genes.

You could end up in a future where if your kid is born with blonde hair then you'll have to pay royalty fees to Monsanto.

Luckily if your kid is born ginger you should be fine, as I don't think they could market that one.

The Don

thewaltzer wrote: »

My comments about the farmers are in reference to the compliance to accept the short term benefits of handouts without looking at the bigger picture.

The bigger picture is if they don't accept them they won't be around in the future.

thewaltzer wrote: »

I know two farmers who make more money now then at the height of their business, plus they dont have to get up at 5 to milk the cows :pac:

Your basing this on two farmers.:rolleyes: I'll bet they barely broke even at the height of their business.

Gone West

I for one can't wait for the pig sized chickens and the elephant sized pigs.

Right on brother.

AckwelFoley

I think its a load of bollox.

Just because they take the seeds out of grapes doesnt mean that my first son is going to be born with a second penis.

.. god knows if he inherits a beast like mine he'll have enough to carry.


I suppose on a serious note the difficulty is where do you draw the line on how far one should go with Gm Modification?

thewaltzer

The Don wrote: »

The bigger picture is if they don't accept them they won't be around in the future.

You got that right. They arn't around at present, they are essentially getting paid not to produce. This pampering by the EU won't last forever.

brianthebard

thewaltzer wrote: »

You got that right. They arn't around at present, they are essentially getting paid not to produce. This pampering by the EU won't last forever.

do you seriously think that farmers don't want to be,you know,farming?they were paid to produce and the ecc slapped sanctions on them.They earn the same now as they did twenty years ago-do you know any other industry where that is the case?And they are being forced to compete with brazilian and argentinian beef,which combined makes and area about twice the size of the EU.You don't know the first thing about agriculture in this country of globally.

Red Alert

I think we'd be better off without GM technology in food. By all means use genetics to do some wonderful things like making new cancer treatments, or restoring body functions to people who are paralysed. Same thing as with nuclear power - it's great for clean power generation when used properly but can also be used to make weapons.

djpbarry

brianthebard wrote: »

And they are being forced to compete with brazilian and argentinian beef...

Not on a level playing field they're not; the high tariffs placed on these imports keeps EU beef farmers afloat (along with subsidies).

djpbarry

Red Alert wrote: »

I think we'd be better off without GM technology in food.

Don't see the need for it myself either. If someone demonstrates that world hunger cannot be met with "conventional" crops, then fair enough. But until that time comes (which isn't going to happen any time soon) then there isn't really any need for it, ulterior motives aside. That’s not to say that research into genetic engineering/modification should not continue, I just don’t see a pressing need for GM crops at this moment in time.

Terry

Fúcking Casey212.
Stop re-registering.

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This dick is banned.