$20,000 you need to disappear? Step Right Up.

Overheal

Mac Pro wrote:

Two 3.2GHz Quad-Core Intel Xeon (8-core)
32GB (8 x 4GB)
Mac Pro RAID Card
1TB 7200-rpm Serial ATA 3Gb/s
1TB 7200-rpm Serial ATA 3Gb/s
1TB 7200-rpm Serial ATA 3Gb/s
1TB 7200-rpm Serial ATA 3Gb/s
NVIDIA Quadro FX 5600 1.5GB (Stereo 3D, two dual-link DVI)
Two 16x SuperDrives
AirPort Extreme card (Wi-Fi)
Quad Channel 4Gb Fibre Channel PCI Express Card
Apple wireless Mighty Mouse
Apple Wireless Keyboard (English) + User's Guide
Accessory kit

Conveniently priced at precisely $19,999.00

The good news is your order qualifies for free shipping. Lord knows your ass is broke.

NeVeR

But will it play the latest games?? hahaha

It is nice tho.. wonder if the boss would buy this for me lol

papu

what a fail , you could build a skulltrail Crossfire System for Half that , for 20grand you dont even get monitors...:rolleyes:

Shiny

...and its a MAC

Cuddlesworth

papu wrote: »

what a fail , you could build a skulltrail Crossfire System for Half that , for 20grand you dont even get monitors...:rolleyes:

Can skull trail support 32gigs of ram? I would say the cost is in the motherboard, EEC ram, cpu's and fibre card. Thats all enterprise level hardware and cost as such.

papu

Cuddlesworth wrote: »

Can skull trail support 32gigs of ram? I would say the cost is in the motherboard, EEC ram, cpu's and fibre card. Thats all enterprise level hardware and cost as such.

why would you need 32 gigs of ram? a 64 gig ssd for 250 euros if you want lots of fast space...

also skulltrail maxes out at a puny 16gigs of ram.... hahha

but you can hit 4ghz easy on 8 cpu's

Silenceisbliss

Cuddlesworth wrote: »

Can skull trail support 32gigs of ram? I would say the cost is in the motherboard, EEC ram, cpu's and fibre card. Thats all enterprise level hardware and cost as such.

...but it's a mac....

besides, when are ya gonna use 32gb of ram! not EVEN crysis would know what to do with it

papu

Silenceisbliss wrote: »

...but it's a mac....

besides, when are ya gonna use 32gb of ram! not EVEN crysis would know what to do with it

AND don't say photoshop , theres no 64bit verson for Osx

Cuddlesworth

I will admit 32gigs is a little excessive. But some applications will use that much ram. Huge Cad designs, large scale rendering. You have to realise a machine like that is pretty much created for usage for specific applications. Even the gfx card is higher then the cost of a really good pc because its specific to a certain role. Its wasted in the hands of a gamer, but there are a few professionals around that would drool over a machine like that for what they can do on it.

Cuddlesworth

papu wrote: »

but you can hit 4ghz easy on 8 cpu's

From what I have heard overclocking dual proc systems is not an easy task.

papu

Cuddlesworth wrote: »

I will admit 32gigs is a little excessive. But some applications will use that much ram. Huge Cad designs, large scale rendering. You have to realise a machine like that is pretty much created for usage for specific applications. Even the gfx card is higher then the cost of a really good pc because its specific to a certain role. Its wasted in the hands of a gamer, but there are a few professionals around that would drool over a machine like that for what they can do on it.

too bad this is BUILDING and UPGRADING , neither of which applies to this ..thing...

head on over to the Mac or Autocad , or Insane Amounts of Ram Section

again 16gigs or ram , paired with a swap file on a ssd would suffice and be mucho cheaper

papu

Cuddlesworth wrote: »

From what I have heard overclocking dual proc systems is not an easy task.

not at all
http://hothardware.com/News/Intel_SkullTrail_at_4GHz_Air_and_Water_Cooled/

the system on the left is a custom Alienware rig based on the Skulltrail platform that features a liquid-cooling system and a pair of GeForce 8800 Ultras running in SLI mode. The dual Core 2 Extreme X9775 processors in the system were running at 4GHz (10 x 400MHz), and according to the BIOS hardware monitor, the chips hummed along at a relatively cool 40 degrees while idling.

what about 5ghz?


or 6ghz?

48Ghz > 32gigs of ram :cool:

Silenceisbliss

BUT ITS A MAC!!!

que the mod who has a passion for macs, he takes out the ban stick, clocks me over the head....

I reckon if you have 20000 to spend on a cad pc...why buy a rediculously over-priced mac..... there are PLENTY more superior options, you could probably buy one of those CRAY supercomputers for that money:pac:


better option, pay me 20000, and ill do all the CAD with a good auld pencil n sheet of paper....old school

papu

buy 32 quad core systems with 4gigs ram each

128 gigs of ram , Cluster them , Render , Profit.

anyway , as was proven with the 4x9800Gx2 machine , Gfx's are Mucho mucho mucho better at calculating than a couple hundred processors ....

Cuddlesworth

papu wrote: »

too bad this is BUILDING and UPGRADING , neither of which applies to this ..thing...

head on over to the Mac or Autocad , or Insane Amounts of Ram Section

again 16gigs or ram , paired with a swap file on a ssd would suffice and be mucho cheaper

Your right, but the cost is in relation to the components. Its the same as it always was with pc buliding, you more you spend the less performance increase you get for your money.

papu wrote: »

not at all
http://hothardware.com/News/Intel_SkullTrail_at_4GHz_Air_and_Water_Cooled/



what about 5ghz?


or 6ghz?

48Ghz > 32gigs of ram :cool:

For your uses, with 8 cores I would assume that processing power would not be a big concern. Thanks for the skulltrail links, interesting that they seem to have sorted out the power fluctuations with 2 procs.

Silenceisbliss wrote: »

BUT ITS A MAC!!!

que the mod who has a passion for macs, he takes out the ban stick, clocks me over the head....

I reckon if you have 20000 to spend on a cad pc...why buy a rediculously over-priced mac..... there are PLENTY more superior options, you could probably buy one of those CRAY supercomputers for that money:pac:


better option, pay me 20000, and ill do all the CAD with a good auld pencil n sheet of paper....old school

I don't think you could build a machine of the same spec for cheaper outside of it being a mac, and with it being a mac there is software that can use the power. The problem is the parts are so expensive. Even the board would be well over a grand to be able to handle 32gigs of ram. Thats high end server parts right there.

papu wrote: »

buy 32 quad core systems with 4gigs ram each

128 gigs of ram , Cluster them , Render , Profit.

anyway , as was proven with the 4x9800Gx2 machine , Gfx's are Mucho mucho mucho better at calculating than a couple hundred processors ....

Buy that many systems and then have to maintain that many systems. Buy one and worry about that one. With 32 quad core machines running you would need storage space, most likely 3 phase power, aircon cause it would be around 4000watts of heat being pumped out etc.

Gfx's are good at calculating specific tasks, x86 procs have to be able to do a multitude of things. Look at cpu architecture for the reason why gfx cards are so dominating at single process tasks.

papu

Cuddlesworth wrote: »

sNIP

First you bang out about SPECIFIC uses for the machine , then Boast the versatility of the X86 processor ,

if you want Linear performance Lots of Gfx's
If you want Lots of versatility Lots of processors?

Amirite?

I'm missing the importance of ram part...

btw , that pc will most likely have a 1 or 2 KW psu onboard..

Anti

Wrong forum. Moving to mac forum.

papu

Overheal

Silenceisbliss wrote: »

...but it's a mac....

besides, when are ya gonna use 32gb of ram! not EVEN crysis would know what to do with it

youre not thinking correctly: ONE game of Crysis wouldnt know what to do with it, BUT if you run 4 or 5 instances of Crysis...

Cuddlesworth

papu wrote: »

First you bang out about SPECIFIC uses for the machine , then Boast the versatility of the X86 processor ,

Somebody had mentioned that gfx cards are better, I was pointing out only for certain tasks.

papu wrote: »

if you want Linear performance Lots of Gfx's
If you want Lots of versatility Lots of processors?

Amirite?

Yes and no, development of programs that use the linear scaling of gfx cards is the reason why they are not widely used for anything besides folding and 3d image rendering.

papu wrote: »

I'm missing the importance of ram part...

Try not to think of a gaming machine then.

papu wrote: »

btw , that pc will most likely have a 1 or 2 KW psu onboard..

And?

babypink

better be vista-64 coz if it aint all you can address is 4gb max RAM!

even at that....entry level vista-64 can only address 8gb. So you gotta splurge on the top end vista to address lots of ram.

Mac OS Leopard - 1 version, 64Bit - 4TB max physical RAM.

ZENER

. . . ahem . . . penis envy ???

ZEN

BanzaiBk

Is this thread not against the charter?

silvine

What in God's name would you use something that powerful (and overpriced) for?

papu

boost the size of your ipenis

Silenceisbliss

I don't think you could build a machine of the same spec for cheaper outside of it being a mac.

I disagree completely

Silenceisbliss

Overheal wrote: »

youre not thinking correctly: ONE game of Crysis wouldnt know what to do with it, BUT if you run 4 or 5 instances of Crysis...

ahhhhh, i forgot about the multiple siamese twins who suffer from ADHD with hyperactive tendancies and multiple personaly disorders here on boards.... my bad...

babypink wrote: »

even at that....entry level vista-64 can only address 8gb. So you gotta splurge on the top end vista to address lots of ram.

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eh......... if youre willing to spend 20000 on the the componants (not even the peripherals) then im sure spending money on a capable OS is the least of your worries