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Help with food issue

  • 11-08-2008 1:23pm
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 932 ✭✭✭


    Hi there,

    This isnt really a serious problem compared to some of the other stuff on here but anyway.

    As someon here know i stopped drinking last year ( twil be a year this Friday if i make it!!) and i gave up smoking a few weeks ago. my problem is that over the lst year iv put on a good bit of weight. I feel unhealthy and unattractive as a result but i cant seem to get the idea of revawding myself with food out of my head.

    Like i feel that if i cant drink or smoke then surely im entitled to a bar of chocolate.

    I dont like being overweight. I would estimate that i need to lose 21/2 to 3 stone at this stage.

    Help anyone?


Comments

  • Closed Accounts Posts: 575 ✭✭✭JustCoz


    Are you female? Why don't you try going to weight Watchers or joining a Curves gym?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,861 ✭✭✭Irishcrx


    Stop complaining, get to a gym, work hard, see your rewards.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,493 ✭✭✭RedXIV


    You've never failed to inspire here lass, your story of recovery is one of the greatest success stories on boards. and i can definitely see where you're coming from with the reward system, after all, you've done ridiculously well so far.

    Now i realise that women and chocolate have a level of understanding we men can never compete with :) but maybe you could try replacing the reward of a chocolate bar with something else? i did it myself with chocolate and apples. i always have a bag of apples in the house and they are sweet enough to settle my sweet tooth.

    You've done really well with setting yourself goals so do the same with this new situation.

    Best of luck lass!

    Red


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 494 ✭✭trio


    Weight Watchers is your friend.....

    I'm not even kidding - I find it brilliant. The meetings are also very good as you end up talking a lot in a group about problematic food behaviour, like rewarding yourself. It's about seeing how you can change something so that you still feel rewarded but don't put on weight.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 932 ✭✭✭brokensoul


    Irishcrx wrote: »
    Stop complaining, get to a gym, work hard, see your rewards.

    IO have two issues with th egym. Firstly, ive never been to one and im scared of making a spa of myself as i wont know how to work the machines. Secondly, im very shortsighted and nobody in the gym seems to wear glasses. How do they get around this??


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,673 ✭✭✭Miss Fluff


    Wow Brokensoul, imagine it's a full year. You have been an inspiration and have achieved so so much.

    The weight thing is completely within your control now so I'd second what people said and join your local WW class, you will still be allowed that odd bar of chocolate so it's not all hair-shirts and misery. www.weightwatchers.ie

    Congrats for Friday btw!:)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,324 ✭✭✭lolly22


    trio wrote: »
    Weight Watchers is your friend.....

    I'm not even kidding - I find it brilliant. The meetings are also very good as you end up talking a lot in a group about problematic food behaviour, like rewarding yourself. It's about seeing how you can change something so that you still feel rewarded but don't put on weight.

    Hey op

    Firstly congrats on giving up the drink and smokes you should be proud of yourself. ;)

    I have to agree with Trio here WW is imo your best bet to ditching the pounds. There are alot of people there in same boat as you and are always very incouraging and most importantly you only need to take small steps, you set your self very realistic goals, hear other peoples success stories and tips which can be very motivating for you.

    When your having a weak moment just go out even a 20 min walk and youll feel good after.Somehow though I think your going to fine.

    Best of luck
    Lolly


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,339 ✭✭✭How Strange


    Brokensoul, would you consider taking up running?

    I personally hate the gym and I took up running last year to try and lose a few pounds, kick start my metabolism and generally get fitter. Now I'm hooked and I'm training for the Dublin marthon in Oct.

    You may feel self conscious for the first few weeks but once you start improving you'll get more confident.

    The additional benefits of running/jogging regularly are you'll see the pounds fall off, your body shape will change and it helps establish a positive frame of mind.

    I'd wholeheartedly recommend giving it a go possibly in conjunction with weight watchers.

    PM me if you want any further info on getting started.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,861 ✭✭✭Irishcrx


    brokensoul wrote: »
    IO have two issues with th egym. Firstly, ive never been to one and im scared of making a spa of myself as i wont know how to work the machines. Secondly, im very shortsighted and nobody in the gym seems to wear glasses. How do they get around this??

    Don't worry, everyone starts somewhere there. Go and talk to a trainer, have a look around and the first day they will show you everything and make up a personal program for you to follow , I'm not to sure about being short sighted i'm sure it wouldn't be a huge problem and there would be a way around it, I wouldn't let it stop me anyway. Once you get into it you'll get the swing of thing's and you will see a differance and it's pretty much the only way too loose the ammount of weight you want to. Good luck.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 176 ✭✭Hansel


    Do you get any exercise at all? If not, start by going for a walk in the evenings when you get home from work. You don't have to go to a gym to get exercise but there is no substitute for exercise either. Don't mind all these dieting fads, most of those are unhealthy, apart from Weight Watchers. I would recommend you speak to your GP and how to lose weight healthily as a lot of what you will read on the internet is complete sh*t.

    As a friend of mine who lost over 6 stone in a year says to people now ... get off the fecking couch, fatty. Yes it's harsh, but some people need that kick up the hole.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,683 ✭✭✭monty_python


    the best thing you could do is educate yourself about good and bad foods that you can reward yourself with.. how about a bowl strawberrys or raspberrys or something similar instead of crisps or chocolate.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,181 ✭✭✭LouOB


    brokensoul wrote: »
    IO have two issues with th egym. Firstly, ive never been to one and im scared of making a spa of myself as i wont know how to work the machines. Secondly, im very shortsighted and nobody in the gym seems to wear glasses. How do they get around this??

    you mad - everyone in the gym is in the same boat as yourself. Everyone in the place is there to loose weight and get healthy.
    Now when I started going to the gym at 17 I lost my concentration on the treadmill as looking at the TV, cue Beavis & Butthead episode - where I go flying backwards off the machine. And the manager running over me in the middle of the gym. That was over 10years ago and still in the same gym :cool:

    There are plently of people bigger and smaller than you in the gym
    Ask an instructor to do you up a starter program & if you are interested in any machines they will help you with. If that fails push the START button:P


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 932 ✭✭✭brokensoul


    Hansel wrote: »
    Do you get any exercise at all? If not, start by going for a walk in the evenings when you get home from work. You don't have to go to a gym to get exercise but there is no substitute for exercise either. Don't mind all these dieting fads, most of those are unhealthy, apart from Weight Watchers. I would recommend you speak to your GP and how to lose weight healthily as a lot of what you will read on the internet is complete sh*t.

    As a friend of mine who lost over 6 stone in a year says to people now ... get off the fecking couch, fatty. Yes it's harsh, but some people need that kick up the hole.

    I walk and swim. Im not really sure what i should be aiming for though. How many lengths of the pool should i be doing? Or how long a walk?

    Im tempted by the "lose 22lbs in 4 days by drinking wee and pepper" diets but i know in my heart of hearts that they are a load of crap!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,731 ✭✭✭bp


    has it really been a year - that is amazing - well done!!!

    On the whole gym/ glasses issue...I always wore my glasses in the gym all the time and had no problems....I didn't even notice if anyone was wearing them. Unfortunately the gym just wasn't for me. As for lenghts of the pool etc, try to one extra each day - so if you do five, then try six the next time etc. Same with walking - a 45minute walk is what is recommended three times a week, so start with that and work your way up to 50 minutes on one walk a week etc.

    I am trying to shed a few pounds at the moment and have joined a local pilates class and walk every day. The biggest thing though is drinking water (not fizzy drinks) and getting the chocolate out of the house. Buy fresh fruit and eat that when you feel peckish - find one you like (e.g. Strawberry's and make them your treat).

    Hope this helps and congrats again on kicking the two habits - your family and son must be so proud of you!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,608 ✭✭✭Spud83


    brokensoul wrote: »
    IO have two issues with th egym. Firstly, ive never been to one and im scared of making a spa of myself as i wont know how to work the machines. Secondly, im very shortsighted and nobody in the gym seems to wear glasses. How do they get around this??

    Firstly, there are instructors in the gym who can show you how to use the machines and also set you a program. There are also personal trainers that you could for a session or two to get you started.

    Secondly, I wear my glasses in the gym and it cause me no problems. The other option is contacts.

    Thirdly, you don't need to join a gym to exercise, walking, jogging, cycling etc can all be done in the great outdoors and feels better to. Would setting yourself a target like a mini-marathon or a cycle race would give you something to work towards.

    However, aside from this I think you need to find something else to reward yourself with. However it depends on the amount of bad food we are talking about. If the rest of your diet is OK, then a bar chocolate every now and again shouldn't do to much harm once you have some exercise in your life.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 176 ✭✭Hansel


    Another thing to remember when you're exercising is that muscle is heavier than fat, so don't get disheartened if you step on the scales and there's no change. You could still be losing size, slimming down, but gaining some muscle, which is no bad thing. You'll still look and feel better.
    If it's purely about your physical appearance(it shouldn't be, you should exercise for good health) that you are doing all of this, I would recommend you take a picture of yourself once a month and keep monitoring your progress that way, as weight can be a bit misleading.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 932 ✭✭✭brokensoul


    Hansel wrote: »
    Another thing to remember when you're exercising is that muscle is heavier than fat, so don't get disheartened if you step on the scales and there's no change. You could still be losing size, slimming down, but gaining some muscle, which is no bad thing. You'll still look and feel better.
    If it's purely about your physical appearance(it shouldn't be, you should exercise for good health) that you are doing all of this, I would recommend you take a picture of yourself once a month and keep monitoring your progress that way, as weight can be a bit misleading.

    I have absoluitely NO muscle so i dont think i need to worry about that!!

    Any idea how long it would take to lose three stone. Am i talking 6 months or a year or what?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,493 ✭✭✭RedXIV


    brokensoul wrote: »
    I have absoluitely NO muscle so i dont think i need to worry about that!!

    Any idea how long it would take to lose three stone. Am i talking 6 months or a year or what?

    depends entirely on how serious you are. If you wanted to, you could lose it alot sooner. on the same token, if you're planning on taking it slow and steady, it may take longer. how dedicated are you planning on being in regards to this?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 176 ✭✭Hansel


    brokensoul wrote: »
    I have absoluitely NO muscle so i dont think i need to worry about that!!

    Any idea how long it would take to lose three stone. Am i talking 6 months or a year or what?

    You probably have more muscle than you think. If you're exercising, there's muscle there and it's growing all the time, it's just currently covered by fat.

    As for how long it will take to lose three stone, that impossible to answer, which is why i recommend you see your GP to get good advice on how to lose weight safely. If you exercise regularly and eat reasonably healthy, weight loss will be slow enough, but overall, you'll begin to feel better after a short period of time.

    I would personally recommend the following:
    Get your five a day of fruit and vegetables.
    Eat your three meals a day.
    Try substitute fruit for chocolate in any snacking.
    Keep up the exercise. You may find that you don't even need to lose as much weight as you think you need to.

    At the end of the day, you just can't beat a balanced diet and some good exercise. Keep active and you'll feel great. And don't be scared to treat yourself once a week.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 932 ✭✭✭brokensoul


    RedXIV wrote: »
    depends entirely on how serious you are. If you wanted to, you could lose it alot sooner. on the same token, if you're planning on taking it slow and steady, it may take longer. how dedicated are you planning on being in regards to this?

    In a healthy way? Or do you mean some fad?

    I dont want to go on some crash diet where i end up putting all the weight back on again buti have no objection to following a strict diet if it is healthy and works!


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,493 ✭✭✭RedXIV


    brokensoul wrote: »
    In a healthy way? Or do you mean some fad?

    I dont want to go on some crash diet where i end up putting all the weight back on again buti have no objection to following a strict diet if it is healthy and works!

    oh you can do it a healthy way but it is a bit extreme :D we're talking about cutting out all luxaries and changing your diet radically. diet is actually the worst part of it, the exercise part, while important will not do all the work itself. swimming is actually one of the best exercises but keep pushing yourself to do more and more lengths and you'll be fighting fit in no time :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,393 ✭✭✭✭Vegeta


    Clearly OP you have will power this is your best friend

    Just want to say that diet is more important than exercise for weightloss. It is very very hard to out train a bad diet.

    This is my advice to you in this order
    Get your diet sorted (see fitness forum stickies for this) Use your obvious will power to keep you going here

    Pick a challenging yet enjoyable exercise activity. No point in doing something you hate but push yourself every single time. Don't just do the same walk at the same pace every time, really try and make personal best times etc.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,395 ✭✭✭Drift


    Hey brokensoul. I don't have much advice on the weight loss thing but I'm pretty sure you can nail it when you do it because you've already proved when you set your mind to something you can't be stopped.

    Congratulations on the first year. (I can't believe it's that long ago!!!). I bet it's felt like a good year for you despite the odd dairy milk ;)


  • Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators, Regional North East Moderators Posts: 10,878 Mod ✭✭✭✭PauloMN


    brokensoul wrote: »
    Hi there,

    This isnt really a serious problem compared to some of the other stuff on here but anyway.

    As someon here know i stopped drinking last year ( twil be a year this Friday if i make it!!) and i gave up smoking a few weeks ago. my problem is that over the lst year iv put on a good bit of weight. I feel unhealthy and unattractive as a result but i cant seem to get the idea of revawding myself with food out of my head.

    Like i feel that if i cant drink or smoke then surely im entitled to a bar of chocolate.

    I dont like being overweight. I would estimate that i need to lose 21/2 to 3 stone at this stage.

    Help anyone?

    The issue is simply eating too much. Controlling what you eat is what you need to do, and something like WeightWatchers is probably the best option.

    You need to keep an eye on what you eat each day. Work out your points allowance and work out what you're eating. While there is certainly nothing wrong with the gym or getting exercise, I don't think they are the proper solution to being overweight. Eating the right amount of food for your daily lifestyle is.

    If you've ditched drink and cigarettes, watching what you eat (it's not a diet) should be like taking candy from a baby. :D (Not too much candy though). ;)

    Good luck with it.


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 6,376 Mod ✭✭✭✭Macha


    brokensoul wrote: »
    IO have two issues with th egym. Firstly, ive never been to one and im scared of making a spa of myself as i wont know how to work the machines. Secondly, im very shortsighted and nobody in the gym seems to wear glasses. How do they get around this??

    Let me introduce you to Krista. She wears glasses (as I do) & knows her way around a gym better than most guys:

    http://stumptuous.com/cms/index.php

    Seriously - go to a gym, ask an instructor, read up in the Fitness section (ignore the testosterone) & go for it. If the gym isn't your thing, don't worry - find another sport.

    And sort out your diet - it's 70% diet, 30% exercise. So restrict carbs to earlier in the day, fill up on veg and lean protein. Read the stickies by g'em in the Nutrition forum-she knows what she's talking about.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,900 ✭✭✭littlefriend


    Congratulations on your incredible achievement. As someone else already said, you have demonstrated great resolve already so you should be ok losing weight.
    2.5-3 stone isn't that much - its when it starts to creep over that that you are going to run into more difficulty - take the situation in hand now.

    I have lost around that amount of weight and this is my advice to you :

    1. Join WW - keeps you honest as you have to weigh in every week.
    Make sure you go every week - even if you haven't stuck to the diet and stay for the classes. You will probably find as you get closer to your ideal weight that you outgrow their methods but that is a way down the line so forget about it for now.

    2. Don't bother joining a gym yet. Start walking. For the first while the change in your diet will mostly take care of your weightloss. I do think it is important to start exercising from the beginning though as a] you will improve your fitness and health in a million ways enabling you to really start exercising seriously as you get closer to your goal and b] will make sure that your skin shrinks properly with you. Losing a fair amount of weight without exercising will make you fat-skinny - as in you will be smaller but without any muscle tone.

    3. Start posting on the fitness forum and the nutrition and diet forum. There are tonnes of ppl there trying to get in shape and there are tonnes more ppl there who give really good, educated advice.

    Again, well done on reaching the milestone on Friday. Don't let this weight issue hold you back - deal with it - continue to be an inspiration to yourself and others.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,021 ✭✭✭m83


    Brokensoul, would you consider taking up running?

    I personally hate the gym and I took up running last year to try and lose a few pounds, kick start my metabolism and generally get fitter. Now I'm hooked and I'm training for the Dublin marthon in Oct.

    You may feel self conscious for the first few weeks but once you start improving you'll get more confident.

    The additional benefits of running/jogging regularly are you'll see the pounds fall off, your body shape will change and it helps establish a positive frame of mind.

    I'd wholeheartedly recommend giving it a go possibly in conjunction with weight watchers.

    PM me if you want any further info on getting started.

    Couldn't agree more! I was you, only last year and did the marathon too. Running is the best thing in the world for clearing your head and making you feel great about yourself.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,287 ✭✭✭davyjose


    I think you need to create a new way to reward yourself. If this is something that has helped you through the last year (and congratulations for that), then are you sure you won't be jeopardising things by being too hard on yourself? Sure, you can join weightwatchers, but then you've no smokes, booze, or tasty treats. That would be tough on ANYONE. You need some kind of comforts - we all do - so if not food, then you DO need a new way to reward yourself?

    Incidentally, if you aren't exercising already, then you really are missing out. Exercise is known to be addictive (but with only positive side-effects), and a lot of reformed addicts have used it to replace their old, harmful addictions. It also makes you feel great. I'm surprised nobody has recommended this to you before now.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 932 ✭✭✭brokensoul


    davyjose wrote: »
    I think you need to create a new way to reward yourself. If this is something that has helped you through the last year (and congratulations for that), then are you sure you won't be jeopardising things by being too hard on yourself? Sure, you can join weightwatchers, but then you've no smokes, booze, or tasty treats. That would be tough on ANYONE. You need some kind of comforts - we all do - so if not food, then you DO need a new way to reward yourself?

    Incidentally, if you aren't exercising already, then you really are missing out. Exercise is known to be addictive (but with only positive side-effects), and a lot of reformed addicts have used it to replace their old, harmful addictions. It also makes you feel great. I'm surprised nobody has recommended this to you before now.

    I know, but im at a loss to think of what.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 43,045 ✭✭✭✭Nevyn


    Change your comfort foods, it can be done, make a punnet of strawberries or grapes something you look for ward to snack on. The diet and nutrition forum is full of good tips and you can start a food dairy there.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,900 ✭✭✭littlefriend


    This is a bit off topic but maybe its time to change your username to something more positive. You have done something amazing and everything about you should reflect that.
    I don't know about how to reward yourself...I'm thinking you need to work rewards into your weightloss/fitness goals.. Would having to buy a new smaller wardrobe be a reward for you? Maybe a day with a personal shopper for yourself for Christmas. I know these things cost money [I am broke so I'm not saying this lightly] but maybe you could save a bit each week towards them?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 932 ✭✭✭brokensoul


    Thaedydal wrote: »
    Change your comfort foods, it can be done, make a punnet of strawberries or grapes something you look for ward to snack on. The diet and nutrition forum is full of good tips and you can start a food dairy there.

    How though?

    Strawberries are grand like, but they will never taste as good as a moro!


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 6,376 Mod ✭✭✭✭Macha


    brokensoul wrote: »
    How though?

    Strawberries are grand like, but they will never taste as good as a moro!

    It's all about habits & re-educating your tastebuds. I used to love milk chocolate (still do!) but now what I really like is one of those small bars of G&B Maya Gold. You get a real chocolate kick without all the fat & sugar. But I ddin't go straight onto dark chocolate, I started eating Bourneville plain chocolate.

    Once I started on a low GI diet, I found that eating a chocolate bar would take all my energy as my blood sugar peaked & then crashed soon after (quickly followed by the desire to eat another chocolate bar...). I remember my brother ordering in a pizza & finding him asleep as his body wasn't used to such a large dose of glucose. Really - your body & tastebuds can and will adapt.

    Also, they say it takes 2 weeks to form a habit & you shouldn't try & do everything at once. So I would suggest changing your breakfast to something more healthy & give that 2 weeks to settle down. Then get to work on your lunch, etc.

    In terms of rewards, you have to break the connection between food and comfort so your reward should be mainly non-food related. ie, go to the cinema, a night out with friends (keeping an eye on the alcohol intake..) a massage, buy youself a book or an item of clothing. For big rewards you can book holidays etc.

    Also, remember thhe 80/20 or 90/10 rule. The extra benefit of that 20% is outweighed by the mental fatigue of sticking to something 100% so allow yourself some cheat meals & remember to schedule them for nights out with friends, etc.

    Preparation is key. Our society does not encourage healthy eating. Just walk into any Spar & 99% of what you see will be far from ideal. Stock up on nuts & bring them into work. Make extra dinner & put it in a tupperware container for lunch the next day. Invest in some tupperware!

    Make sure that you don't keep tempting foods at home. Your home should be your safe base because we all know the temptation is bad enough the second you step outside your front door. Bottom line: if its in the cupboard/fridge, you will eat it! Get friends & family on board & ask for their support (eg ask them not to keep sweets at home).

    If it were easy, everyone would be thin but its worth the effort 100 times over


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 43,045 ✭✭✭✭Nevyn


    Moros are yummy and who said you have to stop eating them just limit it to one a week
    be it sitting and savouring it all in one go or sticking it in the freezer and cutting it into slices and having a small piece every day.

    I would suggest that you try do a detox and ask about it in the diet and nutrition forum.
    You body will crave the salt/sugar/fats that it is used to and you have to face that you will have to take the time and cut things out and then you can reintroduce them in smaller portions.

    Clearly you do have the will power needed how else would you have given up smoking and drinking.


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 6,376 Mod ✭✭✭✭Macha


    Thaedydal wrote: »
    I would suggest that you try do a detox and ask about it in the diet and nutrition forum.
    You body will crave the salt/sugar/fats that it is used to and you have to face that you will have to take the time and cut things out and then you can reintroduce them in smaller portions.

    I would have to disagree with you on detoxes. If you're referring to getting all the 'toxins' out of your body-this has been scientifically proven to be a gimmick. There's nothing inherently "toxic" about saturated fat, carbs, sugar: but there is such a thing as having too much of them. Then again, if it helps mentally...
    I would also recommend against making any radical changes to a diet. Slow and easy wins the race.

    Good idea on the frozen chocolate tho.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,048 ✭✭✭Amazotheamazing


    Set a goal.

    Iirc, you're based in Munster? Why not say this time next year I will do a triathlon in Cork or Kerry, or do the 10 miles series, which starts in Jan and goes to April. There's a run in Mallow, Dungarven, Ballycotton and the Burren, or a 10k races somewhere (there's one in UL in March).

    Don't simply view exercise as a way to lose weight, it's great for your mind, it's makes you feel good, it's makes you look better, it helps you meet people and gives you something to do to get out from in front of the soaps.

    I would pick a goal, or a series of goals. for example with running I would say (being based in Munster) "I will complete the ladies mini-marathon in Limerick, I will run the charity run on Christmas day, I will complete one of the 10 milers, I will swim a section of a triathlon as part of a relay, I will get better at cycling and complete a sprint tri"

    Forget about exercise simply to lose weight, build it into your life.

    Also, agree with whoever said change your name on boards, pick something positive, maybe even outlandish, calling yourself "brokensoul" isn't going to make you feel better.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 43,045 ✭✭✭✭Nevyn


    taconnol wrote: »
    I would have to disagree with you on detoxes. If you're referring to getting all the 'toxins' out of your body-this has been scientifically proven to be a gimmick. There's nothing inherently "toxic" about saturated fat, carbs, sugar: but there is such a thing as having too much of them. Then again, if it helps mentally...
    I would also recommend against making any radical changes to a diet. Slow and easy wins the race.

    Good idea on the frozen chocolate tho.

    What I meant is not eating heavily processed food/take away/fast food/fried foods/sugary for a week or so and drinking lots of water, and letting your body and taste buds take a time out.


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 6,376 Mod ✭✭✭✭Macha


    Ah. I thought you meant something like nowt but water and maple syrup for 3 days :)

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Detox_diet


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 932 ✭✭✭brokensoul


    Thaedydal wrote: »
    What I meant is not eating heavily processed food/take away/fast food/fried foods/sugary for a week or so and drinking lots of water, and letting your body and taste buds take a time out.

    I dont eat alot of take aways or fried food to be hones and i drink at least two litres of water a day.

    My problems are ( as far as i can see) that i love white bread, cheese and chocolate - all of which are fattening and i dont exercise enough.

    I know in my own head it is a reward thing. I think to myself "im already doing enoiugh not drinking or smoking. Why should i go for a swim when i dont want to or why should i eat cabbage when what i really want is chocolate".

    I need to change that mindset/reward system. Im jus not sure how to.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,610 ✭✭✭Karen_*


    Well what about making the reward system something like a facial or a cd? some sort of a present to yourself each week?

    I've given up alcohol and started weightwatchers. Its not easy. I want to give up the smokes too and feelign a bit glum about it all (not that any of these things were bringing me great joy) but I'm going to treat myself to something every week so I'll have something to look forward to.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 43,045 ✭✭✭✭Nevyn


    Start with what you put in your shopping basket/trolley.
    Only buy brown bread/wholemeal/granary bread or at least with a more robust white bread that will fill you up like batch or those polish loaves. Improve the quality of what you eat.
    Green and blacks dark chocolate will give you that chocolate hit with less fat and calories. As for the cheese make it a treat and not an everyday things.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 932 ✭✭✭brokensoul


    Thaedydal wrote: »
    Start with what you put in your shopping basket/trolley.
    Only buy brown bread/wholemeal/granary bread or at least with a more robust white bread that will fill you up like batch or those polish loaves. Improve the quality of what you eat.
    Green and blacks dark chocolate will give you that chocolate hit with less fat and calories. As for the cheese make it a treat and not an everyday things.

    I appreciate that. My problem is though that i dont want to give up the cheese or white bread or chocolate. I think i "deserve" it for making other sacrificies and i dont know how to change that mindset.


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 6,376 Mod ✭✭✭✭Macha


    brokensoul wrote: »
    I appreciate that. My problem is though that i dont want to give up the cheese or white bread or chocolate. I think i "deserve" it for making other sacrificies and i dont know how to change that mindset.

    Your looking at it all wrong. Firstly, you don't have to totally cut anything out of your diet. You can still have cheese, white bread and chocolate but in smaller quantities and/or less often.

    You need to just knuckle down for the first few weeks and make a good stab at changing your habits. Stop thinking about it in terms of "sacrificing things" and start thinking about non-food rewards that you "deserve".


    You're going to have to stop being so negative & be better at motivating yourself. Put up a picture of someone with your ideal body somewhere you can see it every day-the fridge is the best place. When you're about to go off the wagon, think about how you're going to feel 15mins after you've finished eating. Will it have been worth it? Or will you be annoyed at yourself? Set small time-based goals (eg monthly/weekly/daily!) and congratulate yourself when you make them. Think about how great its going to be when you achieve your goal weight. As they say, nothing tastes as good as being slim.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 190 ✭✭05D


    Hi there,

    Hpnosis can be a great way to lose weight and tackle negative thoughts.

    See - http://www.irishhypnosis.com/loose_weight.htm

    Best of luck!!!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 18 hayley_2008


    "A little bit of everything in moderation is good for you" is what my great grandmother used to say, she lived to be 99 years old (lived thru the war and all).

    I think that is the major problem with people these days, they consume far too much food at one sitting, spread it out over the day in small & varied portions, keep urself full but dont stuff yourself.:o

    Just my two pence :rolleyes:

    Cheers, Hayley




  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,287 ✭✭✭davyjose


    brokensoul wrote: »
    I know, but im at a loss to think of what.

    Exercise. Seriously, it's something that many people can't live without. Go to the fitness forum and ask ... once you get started it can take over ;)


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