Problem with connecting to Wireless

Tar.Aldarion · 08-08-2008 4:06pm #1

I keep getting this:

When I try to connect to wireless. It was working fine earlier. Other wireless networks still work fine with my laptop but this will only connect locally. Any idea?

Jonathan · 08-08-2008 4:23pm

I think there may be a problem with your dns servers.. Im not sure tho

On a more helpful note, have you tried using other dns servers such as open dns to see if the problem really is with the wireless network's dns server?

Tar.Aldarion · 08-08-2008 4:33pm

You see now, I have no idea about dns apart from it makes host names into IP's and so on. What is open dns, some dns program? How could I use it to help.

any info in ipconfig /all helpful? or anything I can check up in cmd?
It seems to happen to other people around the world too, first google result:
http://forums.techguy.org/networking/575198-wireless-network-issue-problem-dns.html
I am also using vista business, by the by.

I just think it is odd that wireless does not work on this router but if I go to a friends my laptop works fine on their wireless especially since it worked earlier.

PogMoThoin · 08-08-2008 4:48pm

Could be a problem with your ISP's dns servers, change to opendns as they are usually faster and correct mistakes.To add opendns,
Xp:
Control panel -> open network connections -> click on your wireless card -> scroll down to tcp/ip -> click it and then click properties -> add 208.67.222.222 and 208.67.220.220 as the dns servers
Vista:
Control panel -> open Network and sharing centre -> click manage network connections -> click on your wireless card -> scroll down to tcp/ipv4 -> click it and then click properties -> add 208.67.222.222 and 208.67.220.220 as the dns servers

Best to restart after

Jonathan · 08-08-2008 4:48pm

Have you reset the router and laptop?

In cmd, run nslookup. It will show you your dns server. Type in a few websites and see does it give you back ip addresses. I doubt it will but if it does, lash those ip addresses back in and see can you get a host name back out again.

To use open dns you mearly have to change a setting or two on your net config. No software etc.

Best if I just give you a link to their instructions.. They'll explain it better

Spear · 08-08-2008 4:49pm

Tara Le d'Arion wrote: »

You see now, I have no idea about dns apart from it makes host names into IP's and so on. What is open dns, some dns program? How could I use it to help.
any info in ipconfig /all helpful? or anything I can check up in cmd?
It seems to happen to other people around the world too, first google result:
http://forums.techguy.org/networking/575198-wireless-network-issue-problem-dns.html
I am also using vista business, by the by.

I just think it is odd that wireless does not work on this router but if I go to a friends my laptop works fine on their wireless especially since it worked earlier.

This is openDNS

http://www.opendns.org/

They're a set of DNS servers for general public use.

Have you already manually set DNS servers on any of the PCs, are you letting the router provide these details by DHCP?

Deliverance XXV · 08-08-2008 5:24pm

jmccrohan wrote: »

Have you reset the router

OP definitely recommend you trying this first. Most probably the solution.

Tar.Aldarion · 08-08-2008 5:36pm

PogMoThoin wrote: »

Could be a problem with your ISP's dns servers, change to opendns as they are usually faster and correct mistakes.To add opendns,
Xp:
Control panel -> open network connections -> click on your wireless card -> scroll down to tcp/ip -> click it and then click properties -> add 208.67.222.222 and 208.67.220.220 as the dns servers
Vista:
Control panel -> open Network and sharing centre -> click manage network connections -> click on your wireless card -> scroll down to tcp/ipv4 -> click it and then click properties -> add 208.67.222.222 and 208.67.220.220 as the dns servers

Best to restart after

Cheers I'll give that a shot now. Have reset but some sites say reset for 15 mins, will try that too. Dunno why it would happen after working for months? Meh.

jmccrohan wrote: »

Have you reset the router and laptop?

In cmd, run nslookup. It will show you your dns server. Type in a few websites and see does it give you back ip addresses. I doubt it will but if it does, lash those ip addresses back in and see can you get a host name back out again.

To use open dns you mearly have to change a setting or two on your net config. No software etc.

Best if I just give you a link to their instructions.. They'll explain it better

Thanks, I'll read that now.
nslookup:
DNS request timed out.
timeout was 2 seconds.
Default Server: UnKnown
Address: 192.168.1.1:53

Spear wrote: »

This is openDNS

http://www.opendns.org/

They're a set of DNS servers for general public use.

Have you already manually set DNS servers on any of the PCs, are you letting the router provide these details by DHCP?

It's just automatic, no set dns.

the_syco · 08-08-2008 6:04pm

Would the Vista equal of XP's

netsh winsock reset catalog

do the trick?

Tar.Aldarion · 09-08-2008 10:09am

I tried that the_syco to no avail. Tried changing to open dns and it said it could not connect to the primary dns 208.67.222.222. Hrmm. Changed back and got same old error. Thanks though.

Spear · 09-08-2008 10:26am

Tara Le d'Arion wrote: »

I tried that the_syco to no avail. Tried changing to open dns and it said it could not connect to the primary dns 208.67.222.222. Hrmm. Changed back and got same old error. Thanks though.

Can we see the output of "ipconfig /all" on the laptop. I'd like to see if it's pickup the DNS server address at all. Also, is there any kind of personal firewall, Zonealarm, Norton's etc. on the laptop?

Tar.Aldarion · 09-08-2008 11:47am

Macafee and avg and the normal windows firewall are on my pc, have them all off atm. Got rid of bitdefender recently.

Windows IP Configuration

Host Name . . . . . . . . . . . . : HAL
Primary Dns Suffix . . . . . . . :
Node Type . . . . . . . . . . . . : Hybrid
IP Routing Enabled. . . . . . . . : No
WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . . . . : No

Wireless LAN adapter Wireless Network Connection:

Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :
Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Intel(R) PRO/Wireless 3945ABG Network Connection
Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-1C-BF-AD-92-B4
DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : Yes
Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes
Link-local IPv6 Address . . . . . : fe80::f96e:72df:7370:6be%10(Preferred)
IPv4 Address. . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.4(Preferred)
Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0
Lease Obtained. . . . . . . . . . : 09 August 2008 12:44:28
Lease Expires . . . . . . . . . . : 10 August 2008 12:44:27
Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.1
DHCP Server . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.1
DHCPv6 IAID . . . . . . . . . . . : 167779519
DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.1
NetBIOS over Tcpip. . . . . . . . : Enabled

Ethernet adapter Local Area Connection:

Media State . . . . . . . . . . . : Media disconnected
Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :
Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Broadcom 440x 10/100 Integrated Controller
Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-1D-09-A5-0D-B8
DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : Yes
Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes

Tunnel adapter Local Area Connection* 6:

Media State . . . . . . . . . . . : Media disconnected
Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :
Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Teredo Tunneling Pseudo-Interface
Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 02-00-54-55-4E-01
DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No
Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes

Tunnel adapter Local Area Connection* 7:

Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :
Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Microsoft ISATAP Adapter
Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-00-00-00-00-00-00-E0
DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No
Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes
Link-local IPv6 Address . . . . . : fe80::5efe:192.168.1.4%13(Preferred)
Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . :
DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.1
NetBIOS over Tcpip. . . . . . . . : Disabled

Tunnel adapter Local Area Connection* 10:

Media State . . . . . . . . . . . : Media disconnected
Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :
Description . . . . . . . . . . . : isatap.{D8FA4F76-DE1B-4C6C-87B6-E034AD9F1478}
Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-00-00-00-00-00-00-E0
DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No
Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes

Tunnel adapter Local Area Connection* 11:

Media State . . . . . . . . . . . : Media disconnected
Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :
Description . . . . . . . . . . . : 6TO4 Adapter
Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-00-00-00-00-00-00-E0
DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No
Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes

Spear · 09-08-2008 12:20pm

Tara Le d'Arion wrote: »

Macafee and avg and the normal windows firewall are on my pc, have them all off atm. Got rid of bitdefender recently.

It's certainly being given the routers IP to act as a DNS server, as it should.

Try ping boards.ie and microsoft.com and see what it produces.

After that try "ipconfig /flushdns" to empty the local DNS cache and then try the pings again.

PogMoThoin · 09-08-2008 12:55pm

You've not added opendns to your wireless card

Wireless LAN adapter Wireless Network Connection:

Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :
Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Intel(R) PRO/Wireless 3945ABG Network Connection
Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-1C-BF-AD-92-B4
DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : Yes
Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes
Link-local IPv6 Address . . . . . : fe80::f96e:72df:7370:6be%10(Preferred)
IPv4 Address. . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.4(Preferred)
Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0
Lease Obtained. . . . . . . . . . : 09 August 2008 12:44:28
Lease Expires . . . . . . . . . . : 10 August 2008 12:44:27
Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.1
DHCP Server . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.1
DHCPv6 IAID . . . . . . . . . . . : 167779519
DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.1
NetBIOS over Tcpip. . . . . . . . : Enabled

You have it set to get it from modem/router its plugged in2. Maybe you could try again this time add oopendns to the Wireless LAN adapter.

Try pinging www.boards.ie, then 89.234.66.107

Why ahve you got Avg and McAfee? this can only be causing other problems as they both do the same thing and will conflict

Tar.Aldarion · 09-08-2008 2:54pm

Spear wrote: »

It's certainly being given the routers IP to act as a DNS server, as it should.

Try ping boards.ie and microsoft.com and see what it produces.

After that try "ipconfig /flushdns" to empty the local DNS cache and then try the pings again.

Sure thing, will do, cheers. Have a feeling it will just not ping it.

PogMoThoin wrote: »

You've not added opendns to your wireless card

You have it set to get it from modem/router its plugged in2. Maybe you could try again this time add oopendns to the Wireless LAN adapter.

Try pinging www.boards.ie, then 89.234.66.107

Why ahve you got Avg and McAfee? this can only be causing other problems as they both do the same thing and will conflict

I had opendns set and reverted back as it did not work, maybe I did it wrong, all I did was change the dns setings in the Wireless LAN adapter?
I can try again if there is more to it.

Oh, I have mcafee becasue it came with the comp and avg because I don't want mcafee so am getting rid of it. They are never on together, no problems there.

Spear · 09-08-2008 3:06pm

As a vague musing, you have IPv6 turned on, even though it's not in use. You could try unbinding it, in case windows is giving priority to it over Ipv4. Under control panel -> network connections, pre ALT for the menu and choose advanced options, then untick the Ipv6 option next to the wireless adapter. Also while you're in that window try moving the wireless connection to the top of the list.

AlmightyCushion · 09-08-2008 3:42pm

Moved from Comp and Tech.

Tar.Aldarion · 09-08-2008 10:13pm

As a vague musing, you have IPv6 turned on, even though it's not in use. You could try unbinding it, in case windows is giving priority to it over Ipv4. Under control panel -> network connections, pre ALT for the menu and choose advanced options, then untick the Ipv6 option next to the wireless adapter. Also while you're in that window try moving the wireless connection to the top of the list.

Thanks for that, did it but to no avail. Didn't know alt brought those menus, cheers!

Here's my opendns ipconfig /all
It works fine for other networks just not this wireless one.
I can't ping websites as it is not connected to teh net, just connected locally.

Host Name . . . . . . . . . . . . : HAL
Primary Dns Suffix . . . . . . . :
Node Type . . . . . . . . . . . . : Hybrid
IP Routing Enabled. . . . . . . . : No
WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . . . . : No

Wireless LAN adapter Wireless Network Connection:

Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :
Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Intel(R) PRO/Wireless 3945ABG Network Connection
Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-1C-BF-AD-92-B4
DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : Yes
Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes
IPv4 Address. . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.4(Preferred)
Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0
Lease Obtained. . . . . . . . . . : 09 August 2008 21:35:29
Lease Expires . . . . . . . . . . : 10 August 2008 21:26:04
Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.1
DHCP Server . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.1
DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 208.67.222.222
208.67.220.220
NetBIOS over Tcpip. . . . . . . . : Enabled

Ethernet adapter Local Area Connection:

Media State . . . . . . . . . . . : Media disconnected
Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :
Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Broadcom 440x 10/100 Integrated Controller
Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-1D-09-A5-0D-B8
DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : Yes
Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes

Tunnel adapter Local Area Connection* 6:

Media State . . . . . . . . . . . : Media disconnected
Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :
Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Teredo Tunneling Pseudo-Interface
Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 02-00-54-55-4E-01
DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No
Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes

Tunnel adapter Local Area Connection* 7:

Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :
Description . . . . . . . . . . . : isatap.{D5AEB4ED-F909-46ED-BAB4-5941913C3C0A}
Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-00-00-00-00-00-00-E0
DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No
Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes
Link-local IPv6 Address . . . . . : fe80::5efe:192.168.1.4%13(Preferred)
Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . :
DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 208.67.222.222
208.67.220.220
NetBIOS over Tcpip. . . . . . . . : Disabled

Tunnel adapter Local Area Connection* 10:

Media State . . . . . . . . . . . : Media disconnected
Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :
Description . . . . . . . . . . . : isatap.{D8FA4F76-DE1B-4C6C-87B6-E034AD9F1478}
Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-00-00-00-00-00-00-E0
DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No
Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes

Tunnel adapter Local Area Connection* 11:

Media State . . . . . . . . . . . : Media disconnected
Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :
Description . . . . . . . . . . . : 6TO4 Adapter
Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-00-00-00-00-00-00-E0
DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No
Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes

MunsterCycling · 09-08-2008 10:34pm

Input the Open DNS on your router, and leave the DHCP assign the router as the DNS server, see what happens, who are you with for BB?

MC

Tar.Aldarion · 10-08-2008 10:49am

I'll give it a shot, ntl.

Tar.Aldarion · 10-08-2008 6:06pm

Hmm, no idea what to do.
Here is a picture of the router settings, anything I could possibly change to help?

Spear · 10-08-2008 6:13pm

Tara Le d'Arion wrote: »

Hmm, no idea what to do.
Here is a picture of the router settings, anything I could possibly change to help?

That's for dynamic DNS, it's quite different from assigning DNS servers.

Tar.Aldarion · 10-08-2008 6:27pm

I just have a random page open there, I mean from the list on the left. I didn't really see where to put the open dns settings there?

Spear · 10-08-2008 6:35pm

Tara Le d'Arion wrote: »

I just have a random page open there, I mean from the list on the left. I didn't really see where to put the open dns settings there?

Under basic settings.

Tar.Aldarion · 11-08-2008 10:40am

Hah! I don't know how I missed that. I set that to the opendns dettings along with the wireless adapter having them. It said could not connect to primary dns server, pinged the host and got no response(when I tried to diagnose and repair). I'll keep fiddling...

Spear · 11-08-2008 10:44am

Tara Le d'Arion wrote: »

Hah! I don't know how I missed that. I set that to the opendns dettings along with the wireless adapter having them. It said could not connect to primary dns server, pinged the host and got no response(when I tried to diagnose and repair). I'll keep fiddling...

Can you ping the router and other PC's by IP at least? Otherwise, you could try removing the wireless adapter and reinstalling it.

Tar.Aldarion · 11-08-2008 3:35pm

What ip would the router have, on the routers page it seems to say it is 0.0.0.0 which isn't one. You mean reinstall my laptops wirelesl adapter, could that fix things? It can connect to other wireless networks. The only other laptop to tryto connect to the router is the gfs mac and that could not connect either, although it did not say why.

Spear · 11-08-2008 4:00pm

Tara Le d'Arion wrote: »

What ip would the router have, on the routers page it seems to say it is 0.0.0.0 which isn't one. You mean reinstall my laptops wirelesl adapter, could that fix things? It can connect to other wireless networks. The only other laptop to tryto connect to the router is the gfs mac and that could not connect either, although it did not say why.

Your router should be at 192.168.1.1 according to the ipconfig output posted earlier.

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