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annoying passport fiasco.

  • 07-08-2008 9:31am
    #1
    StormWarrior
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,577 ✭✭✭


    I went on holiday to Sweden and Denmark in June. I was in Sweden first, due to fly home from Denmark. In Denmark, I realised I had lost my passport! They let me fly home without it.

    When I arrived back in the UK, I reported it lost and it was cancelled. A few weeks later, it was found in Sweden and posted to me. I asked the passport office to validate it again but they said no. They say I have to fork out £72 for a new one. I still have 6 years left on my old one!

    Can they do this? I could quite easily visit the passport office with all of my ID so they know the passport is mine, they will know I'm not a terrorist or anything. They are just rip off merchants trying to screw more money out of people! Does anyone know how I can get it re-validated?


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  • #2
    Beruthiel
    Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 42,362 Mod ✭✭✭✭Beruthiel


    StormWarrior wrote: »
    Can they do this? I could quite easily visit the passport office with all of my ID so they know the passport is mine

    In their eyes, you could have stolen all the other ID as well. So, yes, they can do this. The passport office has gotten very tight with it's rules due to fraud.


  • #3
    seamus
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 68,317 ✭✭✭✭seamus


    1. Why is this in PI?

    2. The passport has already been cancelled/reported lost. It's the same here in Ireland - if you report your passport as lost, it's invalidated and you have to get a new one. If you subsequently find the passport you are obliged to surrender it to the passport office.

    It's not your passport (it's the property of the state), and you can be fairly sure that passport-making isn't a money spinner for any Government, unless they're issuing fakes.


  • #4
    StormWarrior
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,577 ✭✭✭StormWarrior


    But by that logic, why ever issue a passport to anyone in the first place? They could have stolen all of the information to begin with.


  • #5
    StormWarrior
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,577 ✭✭✭StormWarrior


    seamus wrote: »
    If you subsequently find the passport you are obliged to surrender it to the passport office.

    Does this mean I have to send it to them? They did not tell me that when I said I had found it.


  • #6
    seamus
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 68,317 ✭✭✭✭seamus


    StormWarrior wrote: »
    Does this mean I have to send it to them? They did not tell me that when I said I had found it.
    Don't know about the UK, but that's the way it is here. In the UK you probably don't have to send it back because they're better organised - any attempt to use the passport will bring up a big "Passport Invalid" on the system.

    Over here, they cut off the corners of the picture page to indicate an invalidated passport...


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  • #7
    Gone West
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,374 ✭✭✭Gone West


    StormWarrior wrote: »
    They are just rip off merchants trying to screw more money out of people! Does anyone know how I can get it re-validated?
    No they are not. They don't profit from the fees personally. They are working within the constrains of their job's framework.
    You reported it lost/stolen and it was cancelled. Its number and details would have been added to a database, which interpol is connected to AFAIK, and there is quite a lot of administration work involved.

    Losing a passport is something you just don't do.
    And if you do, you grin and bear it.

    I know a girl who lost hers twice and they wouldn't give her another one.
    She had to go and be interviewed by 3 gardai and all.

    You're asking here if anyone knows if you can get it re-validated.
    The obvious answer is to ask the passport office. Which you did.
    And they said no. So that is the answer man!


  • #8
    corribdude
    Closed Accounts Posts: 221 ✭✭corribdude


    Where do you report it do btw, I lost mine recently and haven't reported it yet.


  • #9
    seamus
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 68,317 ✭✭✭✭seamus


    If you're in Ireland, you pick up a particular form, go to your local Garda station and tell them what happened, get the form stamped and then send it off when you're applying for a new passport.


  • #10
    Beruthiel
    Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 42,362 Mod ✭✭✭✭Beruthiel


    Not a PI so am moving to AH as I can't think where else to move it.
    B


  • #11
    themole
    Closed Accounts Posts: 888 ✭✭✭themole


    FuzzyLogic wrote: »
    You reported it lost/stolen and it was cancelled. Its number and details would have been added to a database, which interpol is connected to AFAIK, and there is quite a lot of administration work involved.
    I also beleive this to be the case. Once a passport number is invalidated it cannot be used again.

    The cutting the corners off thing is just to let those who don't have the list of invalidated passports to know its been invalidated.


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  • #12
    Carawaystick
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,779 ✭✭✭Carawaystick


    StormWarrior wrote: »

    Can they do this? I could quite easily visit the passport office with all of my ID so they know the passport is mine, they will know I'm not a terrorist or anything. They are just rip off merchants trying to screw more money out of people! Does anyone know how I can get it re-validated?

    You are asking a question on a website in the .ie domain about what the govt of a country not covered by that domain can do? what happened to boards.uk?

    What happened to living in a country with a name even. The kingdom of Belgium is more united, or even Norway, no one ling in those kingdoms were blowing any other residents up in recent memory.

    Anyhoo, they can lock you up for 42 days, so EUR91.31 for a replacement passport seems fair to me.


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