Handicap Batting Premiership and the rest

patmac

Selection Odds
Manchester Utd (Scratch) 15/1
Chelsea (+2) 15/1
Arsenal (+8) 15/1
Liverpool (+9) 15/1
Tottenham (+20) 15/1
Aston Villa (+26) 15/1
Everton (+26) 15/1
Manchester City (+28) 15/1
Newcastle (+30) 15/1
Portsmouth (+30) 15/1
West Ham (+36) 15/1
Blackburn (+38) 15/1
Middlesbrough (+38) 15/1
Sunderland (+40) 15/1
Fulham (+41) 15/1
Bolton (+44) 15/1
West Brom (+44) 15/1
Wigan (+44) 15/1
Hull City (+50) 15/1
Stoke City (+50) 15/1
Each-way and place bets 1/5 odds first 4

So where is the value here Sunderland +40 or Newcastle +30?

Selection Odds
Shrewsbury (Scratch) 18/1
Bradford (+1) 18/1
Darlington (+1) 18/1
Chesterfield (+2) 18/1
Gillingham (+2) 18/1
Bournemouth (+3) 18/1
Rochdale (+4) 18/1
Wycombe (+4) 18/1
Port Vale (+6) 18/1
Brentford (+8) 18/1
Lincoln (+8) 18/1
Aldershot (+12) 18/1
Barnet (+14) 18/1
Exeter (+14) 18/1
Grimsby (+16) 18/1
Notts County (+16) 18/1
Rotherham (+16) 18/1
Bury (+18) 18/1
Morecambe (+18) 18/1
Chester (+22) 18/1
Macclesfield (+22) 18/1
Accrington (+24) 18/1
Dagenham (+24) 18/1
Luton (+54) 12/1
Each-way bets 1/4 odds first 4

Also I think Luton are a great bet here they start at -30 but could get them back on appeal.
Odds ladbrokes

mike65

There is no way Luton will get the points back. As unfair as it is, the League are getting very tough, with two other teams suffering similair fates - Rotherham have been whacked with -17 and no option for an appeal.

As for the points, as Liverpool are going to win the league thats who to back!

Mike.

Trampas

portsmouth or everton i say

badbrian

Badbrian's thoughts. ..

Agree Portsmouth on the handicap look a standout ew bet. Benitez needs Liverpool to deliver for him in the premiership so might be a handicap or outright bet.

Also I saw Celtic are offering Torres @5/1 to be top scorer. Best price elsewhere that I saw yesterday was 4/1.

eirebhoy

I'm thinking of Fulham and Betfred seem to be best if going with them.

Man Utd (Scr)
Chelsea (+2)
Arsenal (+7)
Liverpool (+9)
Tottenham (+19)
Aston Villa (+25)
Everton (+25)
Man City (+27)
Portsmouth (+29)
Newcastle (+31)
Blackburn (+35)
Middlesbrough (+38)
West Ham (+38)
Sunderland (+41)
Bolton (+42)
Wigan (+43)
Fulham (+45)
West Brom (+47)
Stoke (+51)
Hull City (+53)

Bubs101

Really think that Borough are going to have a breakout season so they are the standouts for me here. As long as they replace Cattermole and one of the keepers steps up to the plate than they have it all. Great defensive partnership in Huth and Wheater, flair in Downing and Tuncay and a proven goalscorer in Alves.

Mezcita

Good thread. My two cents.

Here's the final table from last season with the various handicaps applied. Handicaps were from VCBet at the time.

Handicap Final points
Everton 33 98
Arsenal 14 97
Man City 41 96
Villa 33 93
Portsmouth 36 93
Blackburn 34 92

With this in mind, the reduction of 7 points on Everton's handicap, coupled with them signing virtually nobobdy over the Summer rules them out for me.

Pompey could do well again. However, they are 6 points shorter than last season and I think that Muntari leaving is a big loss. Their first 11 is really good but with them in Europe I think their squad is too light.

So basically, I think you need to go for a team with at least a 33 point start.

Blackburn could struggle without Bentley and if the rumours about players being unhappy with Ince are true.

I'll probably go for West Ham as mental as it sounds. They were ruined by injuries last season but have some decent players. Curbs had a decent record of doing well with Charlton so if they have a decent run and keep their guys injury free they could finish in the top 8.

eirebhoy

Pompey lost all of their last 4 games last season. If they won just won I would have got half my €1,700 winnings (drawing with Everton). If they got 4 points from those games I would have won the lot.

patmac

eirebhoy wrote: »

Pompey lost all of their last 4 games last season. If they won just won I would have got half my €1,700 winnings (drawing with Everton). If they got 4 points from those games I would have won the lot.

I had Man City and their end of season form was atrocious as well, glad Ericksson went after that.

badbrian

patmac wrote: »

I had Man City and their end of season form was atrocious as well, glad Ericksson went after that.

They looked a stone cold cert at one point last year. You were robbed.

Invincible

Got the antepost sheet from Boylesports,handicap,odds as follows:
Man united(Scr) 18/1
Chelsea (+1) 16/1
Arsenal (+7) 16/1
Liverpool (+9) 16/1
Tottenham (+21) 16/1
Aston villa (+26) 16/1
Everton (+26) 18/1
Man city (+27) 16/1
Newcastle (+30) 16/1
Portsmouth (+30) 12/1
Blackburn (+32) 16/1
West ham (+37) 16/1
Middlesboro (+38) 16/1
Sunderland (+40) 16/1
Bolton (+42) 16/1
Wigan (+42) 16/1
Fulham (+45) 16/1
West brom (+45) 16/1
Hull (+53) 16/1
Stoke (+53) 16/1

20 Times 20 Times

I'm honestly going to smash Sunderland this year.

eirebhoy

eirebhoy wrote: »

I'm thinking of Fulham and Betfred seem to be best if going with them.

Man Utd (Scr)
Chelsea (+2)
Arsenal (+7)
Liverpool (+9)
Tottenham (+19)
Aston Villa (+25)
Everton (+25)
Man City (+27)
Portsmouth (+29)
Newcastle (+31)
Blackburn (+35)
Middlesbrough (+38)
West Ham (+38)
Sunderland (+41)
Bolton (+42)
Wigan (+43)
Fulham (+45)
West Brom (+47)
Stoke (+51)
Hull City (+53)

I'm really hoping Fulham will stop winning now because I never put this bet on. I was thinking of putting €200 on it but just never really got around to it (much, much higher than my average bet but it's over 9 months so you have to make it worthwhile). I could have been cheering Fulham on for €3,600 right now. That would be just my luck after Portsmouth's **** up last season.

At the moment the above table looks like:

Fulham 88
Hull 87
Stoke 87
Wigan 84
West Ham 82
Bolton 79
Liverpool 79
Aston Villa 78
Everton 77
Sunderland 73
West Brom 72
Man Utd 71
Blackburn 69
Chelsea 69
Arsenal 68
Middlesbrough 68
Man City 65
Portsmouth 63
Newcastle 61
Tottenham 60

I can't see anything other than a Fulham win unfortunately. It just goes to show you though that this is a great bet to do at 17/1!

jacool

Fulham 88
Hull 87
Stoke 87
Wigan 84
West Ham 82
It looks like its between these five and with 6 rounds of games to go (7 for Wigan, who host Man Utd) there are some cup-finals which could decide the outcome. Stoke could move level or ahead this weekend, but then travel to Fulham for a huge game the week after. West Ham have to play Aston Villa and Chelsea before they then travel to Stoke ! Hull then host Stoke, so it really looks like its Stoke’s to lose at this stage. Hull are in such free-fall that may well be the only winnable game they have left, which would leave them on 90. Fulham have three home games, but they are hosting UEFA (whatever its called now) hopefuls Aston Villa and Everton ! Wigan have potential 3 point games home against Bolton and Portsmouth. So I’d price it that the critical game is on May 16th when Stoke host Wigan. Basing my odds around a home win there I’d say
1/1 Stoke, 6/4 Wigan, 2/1 Fulham, 25/1 Hull, 33/1 West Ham !!!!
team now final (worked out scientifically !!)
Fulham 88 93
Hull 87 90
Stoke 87 98
Wigan 84 94
West Ham 82 87

eirebhoy

I hope you're right but there's no way Stoke are going to pick up anywhere near 11 points from their last 6 games.

Fulham and Arsenal will beat them imo. And then you predicted Hull beating them to leave Hull on 90. So they're relying heavily on their home form.

Still can't see past Fulham who won't lose any of their home games imo.

jacool

this was on 16-Apr-2009
"1/1 Stoke, 6/4 Wigan, 2/1 Fulham, 25/1 Hull, 33/1 West Ham !!!!
team now final (worked out scientifically !!)
Fulham 88 93
Hull 87 90
Stoke 87 98
Wigan 84 94
West Ham 82 87 "
the actual table now is
Fulham 45+53=98
Stoke 51+45=96
Liverpool 9+83=92

You were right, and so was I, sort of ! You said there was no way Stoke would pick up 11 points, but they have 9 already and only a trip to the Emirates to go !!! But yes, its Fulham's to lose now. I could be ill now as I tipped them at work, and never backed them.