N7 Newlands Cross has gone to tender...

Chris_533976

..according to the NRA website anyway. I think that this is planned to be done by 2010 too, they'd want to get the finger out and start it!

Its not on Etenders, but I take that site with a pinch of salt anyway - stuff doesnt appear on that for months.

N18 Crusheen - Gort is also at tender on the site.
So is N21 Castleisland bypass

L1011

All of a week ago it said 'preliminary design' on nra.ie, so they've jumped some stages

EIS was done by SDCC and ABP approved the CPO (can I get any more acronyms in there...) in June so theres definately nothing to stop the tender

Chris_533976

MYOB wrote: »

EIS was done by SDCC and ABP approved the CPO to build the GSJ

DWCommuter

Badly needed. Bring it on. Didn't look at the plans. Is it a similar build to the one on the N4 at Lucan/Newcastle road junction?

Despite the anti road lobby, I believe that these road improvements in Dublin will bring massive benefits, but only if comparable public transport projects are also introduced. (thats where the anti road tree hugging brigade fall down) Otherwise, poor public transport, will encourage people onto the traffic free new road improvements and deliver us right back to hell.

You can see it happening though, can't you.:eek:

L1011

I actually haven't got a clue which of the two plans they went for, I THINK they went for diving the N7 rather than overpassing it - and the plan for it was basically the same as the Newcastle one just with side access routes for Boot Road / Renault / Esso / Joels

murphaph

MYOB wrote: »

I actually haven't got a clue which of the two plans they went for, I THINK they went for diving the N7 rather than overpassing it - and the plan for it was basically the same as the Newcastle one just with side access routes for Boot Road / Renault / Esso / Joels

I bloody hope so. That N7 flyover would have been a bloody eyesore. Far better to have the N7 as an underpass as at the N4/R120.

L1011

Aye, and we've got experience now with Newcastle of how to keep the junction open and flowing OK (as does Norn Iron with Broadway and Grosvenor Road on the Westlink being done almost identically in the past year and a bit).

D.L.R.

I think they're waiting until the Red Cow is done and dusted before they start on Newlands X. So very soon hopefully.

Irish and Proud

murphaph wrote: »

I bloody hope so. That N7 flyover would have been a bloody eyesore. Far better to have the N7 as an underpass as at the N4/R120.

I think it's the flyover they're going for - in any case, it's only going to be two levels - if you saw some of the stuff I had been suggesting, you'd probably hire a hit man - the M50 junctions would be 3 or 4 levels if I had my way - something like this contraption in Glasgow:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/shared/spl/hi/pop_ups/05/uk_enl_1135089769/html/1.stm

...M8/M73 Ballieston Interchange on 4 levels!!!

Regards!

L1011

4 levels and it still manages to have a roundabout in the middle

Chris_533976

Reminds me of the N3/M50 proposal TBH

patrickc

newlands can stay as it is as far as im concerned, with the red cow running pretty smoothly, no need to disrupt traffic further with yet more works

murphaph

patrickc wrote: »

newlands can stay as it is as far as im concerned, with the red cow running pretty smoothly, no need to disrupt traffic further with yet more works

Not upgrading Newlands would leave it as the only at grade and indeed only non-freeflowing junction from the M50 to Cork/Limerick/Waterford. It is somewhat pointless to upgrade the Red Cow and not upgrade Newlands. You would end up with a situation in 10 years whereby you could drive form York Street in Belfast to Dunkettle in Cork and the only time you'd have to stop (assuming full e-tollng and the proposed Sprucefield junction works in NI are implemented) is at Newlands Cross. The bottleneck at this point is essential to be relieved. Better get it out of the way now while we're used to the roads around there being dug up.

L1011

Isn't the Hillsborough Roundabout less likely to be done than Sprucefield at this stage?

Either way, point stands, Newlands is an anomaly on an otherwise free-flowing road network.

If money is critically running out they could put a freeflow lane from Belgard North to N7 West and that'd sort the worst queue at it though; the Red Cow works and Outer Ring Road extension have reduced the congestion considerably.

mackerski

MYOB wrote: »

Isn't the Hillsborough Roundabout less likely to be done than Sprucefield at this stage?

Both upgrades are part of a single scheme.

murphaph

Just a quick thought; if they (as looks likely) opt for the mainline flyover (ie, N7 elevated over R113) then they really should incorporate a box tunnel alongside/under the R113 and parallel to it for future use by metrowest. There's really no excuse for not doing so during these works so as to avoid at grade running and/or digging it all up again to grade separate the tram lines.

Victor

patrickc wrote: »

newlands can stay as it is as far as im concerned, with the red cow running pretty smoothly, no need to disrupt traffic further with yet more works

It is also needed to allow Metro West to cross the junction.

narommy

anyone notice the hoarding going up on the left hand side heading for naas? Is this for the junction?

glineli

How long does the tendor stage normally take. I was told a while back that the N18 crusheen- gort bypass would go to tendor in august and work would commence in september. Does this sound reasonable, a month for tendor?

murphaph

According to a reliable poster on SABRE, it'll go to construction Q1 2009.

Chris_533976

glineli wrote: »

How long does the tendor stage normally take. I was told a while back that the N18 crusheen- gort bypass would go to tendor in august and work would commence in september. Does this sound reasonable, a month for tendor?

AFAIK with that one I heard tender in August with construction late 08 early 09.

Oranmore - Gort following with a September tender.

mobpd

there are signs up on approach to Newlands cross warning of Delays expected when road works start tomorrow. Anyone know the extent of these yet? Lane closures etc? there is nothing mentioned on AA Roadwatch or SDCC websites

DWCommuter

Land has also been taken from the golf course. Looks very like the start of a temporary realignment.

You can see the work from here

joemc99

mobpd wrote: »

there are signs up on approach to Newlands cross warning of Delays expected when road works start tomorrow. Anyone know the extent of these yet? Lane closures etc? there is nothing mentioned on AA Roadwatch or SDCC websites

Fast lane on west (or south?) from M50 to NLX was closed this morning, traiffic quite heavy, will be a nightmare in a couple of weeks.

Lots of road marking in and out on N7, I'd say they are gonna be shifting lanes both sides very soon. North side of N7 both sides of NLX is been cleared, gonna be a big intersection by the looks of it.

I better change my commute route, jsut when the M50 was getting better

murphaph

I think those re preliminary works to do with the new Dublin-Cork? gas line actually. I don't think full blown construction of the GSJ is due to begin for a few months yet, however that strip of land is indeed where the southbound carriageway will be temporarily diverted to while the embankment is built up behind the retaining walls.

L1011

joemc99 wrote: »

Fast lane on west (or south?) from M50 to NLX was closed this morning

OUTSIDE lane. There is no such thing as a 'fast lane' :mad:

Now, thats the rant over... the clearance to the south of the N7 beyond Newlands has gone even further now, must be a good few hundred metres at this stage and there was further fencing material sitting there.

joemc99

MYOB wrote: »

OUTSIDE lane. There is no such thing as a 'fast lane' :mad:

Now, thats the rant over... the clearance to the south of the N7 beyond Newlands has gone even further now, must be a good few hundred metres at this stage and there was further fencing material sitting there.

lol, my pet hate too, slip of the type...........

fyi, I heard on we can use the bus lane while the OUTER lane is closed