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Are there any standards???

  • 03-08-2008 3:19pm
    #1
    Closed Accounts Posts: 14,575 ✭✭✭✭


    Just sitting out on the deck and listening to RTE1 and wondering, jaysus how do they get away with the poor diction, pronunciation???

    Is there no audit or feedback or de-brief from the "powers that be"

    There was Duffy on Friday going into a frenzy" You meyan yew gor onto Rooinayer and spoke to a Yoooman, yew gor a yooman voice??

    WTF Yooman, does that mean human or what.

    Then you have announcers saying that the news will be at a quaterto three to accommodate sports.

    Quater!!! WTF!!! Is that a quarter or what??

    does nobody get back to these gimps and tell them how English is supposed to be spoken.

    As a license payer I expect, and deserve more, a lot more.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,330 ✭✭✭✭Amz


    Have you contacted them regarding your concerns?

    This seems to be a pet peeve of yours, so I'm genuinely interested. Did they respond to your correspondence?

    The majority people who listen to RTÉ radio are the type who like to hear regional accents and colloquialisms. That's why Joe Duffy and his ilk are tolerated. It's a comfort thing for people, to hear "local" accents.

    I do get irritated by the examples you point out, but I just switch off when it starts, I don't speak like that and if I ever have children I'll be ensuring they have correct diction and avoid horrendous accents like Mr. Duffy's.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 14,575 ✭✭✭✭FlutterinBantam


    Yes I have contacted them, with predictable results.

    Nobody seems to give a fcuk .

    Sorry for being so blunt about it but, those are the facts.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,493 ✭✭✭Fulton Crown


    Why should you be surprised with the lack of standard from the cattery ??

    The myth that the"best English is spoken in Dublin"is just that ..a myth. Living here now for a while and just getting my ear around some Irish accents...can't believe how that clown Duffy is allowed to continually pollute the airwaves.

    I like the Hurley and GAA games but the commentators on Radio .....cant make them out at all....


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,568 ✭✭✭DublinWriter


    As a license payer I expect, and deserve more, a lot more.
    I'd love to help you if I could, but perhaps instead maybe you should direct your ire to:

    Circle-Jerk Board of Directors,
    RTE,
    Montrose,
    Dublin 4.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 702 ✭✭✭roxy


    This evening around 5.30 on Drivetime on Radio 1, one of the reporters was half-way through reading the business report when a text message alert sounded. The volume suggested it must've been her own. Cue her stammering and stuttering her way through the rest of it.

    Jaysus. Radio 101 - No phones in studio.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 122 ✭✭God Of Radio


    I can't STAND when people say QUATER. I also hate when people say WARSH.


  • Moderators, Regional North West Moderators Posts: 19,172 Mod ✭✭✭✭byte
    byte


    Warsh?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 122 ✭✭God Of Radio


    When people say WASH sometimes they put an R in there and I can't stand it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,334 ✭✭✭tampopo


    Agree with you, the 11am sports bulletin had the Tour de France leader as Shelk, instead of Shleck, and this morning the newsreader said the Russian president was Putin, not Medvedev, Putin is the PM.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,493 ✭✭✭Fulton Crown


    I can't STAND when people say QUATER. I also hate when people say WARSH.

    same people also sat CHICARGO and AURGUST - does mah head in - but my "most hated" at the moment is when people say "NEHWORK" for "NETWORK".

    AAAAAAAAAAAAARRRRRRRGGGGGHHHH !


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,459 ✭✭✭Heathen


    Yes I have contacted them, with predictable results.

    Nobody seems to give a fcuk .

    Sorry for being so blunt about it but, those are the facts.

    would it be a waste of time to contact Comreg? i mean they would be who you would contact with issues relating to Bad language or distasteful content being broadcast wouldn't they? or even the BCI? Comreg are there to regulate the Standard of Broadcasting in Ireland and also they are there so that the payers of any service be it, TV/ Radio License, Mobile phone user, Landlne user, gets value for their money.

    I am not agreeing nor disagreeing with the OP just suggesting avenues to explore if you feel your opinion/complaint is not being taken seriously

    Mack


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,755 ✭✭✭sudzs


    Just hear on Newstalk 9.00 news bullitin in relation to our health service, "....reports of vulnerable patients going missing."

    Jesus, they're losing patients now!!! :eek:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 14,575 ✭✭✭✭FlutterinBantam


    Pound to a Euro they pronounced it "Vunerable":D


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 16,165 ✭✭✭✭brianthebard


    Amz wrote: »
    Have you contacted them regarding your concerns?

    This seems to be a pet peeve of yours, so I'm genuinely interested. Did they respond to your correspondence?

    The majority people who listen to RTÉ radio are the type who like to hear regional accents and colloquialisms. That's why Joe Duffy and his ilk are tolerated. It's a comfort thing for people, to hear "local" accents.

    I do get irritated by the examples you point out, but I just switch off when it starts, I don't speak like that and if I ever have children I'll be ensuring they have correct diction and avoid horrendous accents like Mr. Duffy's.


    this is rather contradictory-people listening to a national station won't all be able to take comfort from a 'local' voice,unless they rotate presenters by region?I think,like many other things,its down to poor education tbh.Shouldn't an applicant be required to have taken some sort of elocution class or something,before becoming a presenter?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 14,575 ✭✭✭✭FlutterinBantam


    Elocution class!!! You gotta be kiddin'

    What bugs me is that persistent mispronunciations are not picked up on,and the person involved is allowed to go on their merry way,apparently oblivious of the faults in their pronunciation.

    Examples: Cro Park for Croke Park.
    Dropping the last "t" in get,the middle "t" in football Miriam O'C most persistent there. "Geh" and "Foohball"

    Vunerable for vulnerable

    Yooman for human..Duffy stand up

    Loads of others but no standards as I say.

    While I'm at it can they not get the correct or most accepted pronunciation of "Bejing"

    Some say Bayjing others say Bay- shing, why the fook not agree on one pron. and stick to it.
    Too much to expect... I know:mad:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,859 ✭✭✭bmaxi


    It would appear there are no standards, be it in pronunciation, spelling, grammar or syntax. In June, just before the leaving Cert. I received a hand written, photo-copied note from my son's year head and teacher of Higher English.
    It read, " Effective immediately, all pupils must not bring thereI]sic[/I mobile phones into class etc. etc." .
    I happened to meet the Principal and mentioned it to him, his answer was "What can I do, she gets the results?" I said, " You could at least point out the errors and prevent their being repeated, if a Maths teacher was teaching 1+1=3, would you allow it continue?"
    I wonder how many students are getting results in spite of rather than thanks to, their teachers.
    Personally, I put the poor standard of English, both spoken and written, down to the "what does it matter" attitude which prevails today, we are not encouraged to take pride anymore.
    Ironically, I read a post on Boards recently (I can't remember which forum), from someone who apologised to readers because English was not his first language yet his presentation was infinitely better than a lot of " native" speakers.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 133 ✭✭Radio Mad.


    While I'm at it can they not get the correct or most accepted pronunciation of "Bejing"

    Some say Bayjing others say Bay- shing, why the fook not agree on one pron. and stick to it.

    Too much to expect... I know:mad:

    I agree. However, to be fair to Irish broadcasters, the Brits are just as bad.

    The correct pronunciation is Beijing (the 'j' is pronounced). Bay-shing is wrong.


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