Friends and Foes

Overheal

I've seen this on other message boards: along with your friends list would it be possible to add a foe list? Im looking at you, SimpleSam06.

R0ot

DeVore - I have my reasons! :pac:

Ruu_Old

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5GRQIm8nnNw

*scribbles on enemy list* You're in for it now, Overheal! :mad: Only joking look what I wrote!

I REALLY
like
Tony Overheal

MagicMarker

I don't have any friends on my list. *sobs into a pillow*

Besides, isn't this basically the same as an ignore list?

Fajitas!

People are going to argue, disagree and not get on over the normal course of a discussion forum anyways - Why drag it down to a "He's on my foe list, so I don't like him" or "He's wrong, I'm going to put him in my foes list so everyone can see".

It's more fun when it's not as petty

Overheal

MagicMarker wrote: »

I don't have any friends on my list. *sobs into a pillow*

Besides, isn't this basically the same as an ignore list?

erm on the other site, yes. but it would be fun to have it just as another group of 'friends' that were actually your foes.

Ruu youre just a whole bunch of crazy tonight arentya?

KnifeWRENCH

It's a neat idea but someone's bound to get pissy over it. Wouldn't really affect me anyway since everyone on Boards ignores loves me.

Overheal

well take the notification out of it. none of the emails that tell you you have a friends request at boards.ie, no approval. after all its a foe. keep your enemies close and all that. When someone views my page it would be nice of them to know what scum make me blood curtle.

Ehm ... Bug!!

Man, I really hate that guy

javaboy

You know people are just going to put their friends on it in an ironic kinda way and the whole already pointless idea will become even more pointless.

Although a Boards' Most Notorious List for the posters considered the most foey* would be interesting.




*it's a word - look it up

Marcus.Aurelius

I don't know if vBulletin supports it, but phpBB certainly does. I suppose there's always a hack going around anyway.

JIZZLORD

while i'd love it. it'd bring more trouble than it'd be worth.

Feck it, lets go hog wild

muffler

Overheal wrote: »

I've seen this on other message boards: along with your friends list would it be possible to add a foe list? Im looking at you, SimpleSam06.

Well you may as well put me down first on your list as I think you are a shit stirrer with that idea

Terrible idea.........the less they know about your true feelings the more chance you have luring them up the mountains.

Dudess

muffler wrote: »

Well you may as well put me down first on your list as I think you are a shit stirrer with that idea

Yeah, what exactly would the advantage be? God knows there's enough hostility on Boards as it is.

Steve

This is a bit like the thread recently on whether you should be able to see if someone is ignoring you.

IIRC, the word from the top was a definite no.

Bob the Builder

Fajitas! wrote: »

People are going to argue, disagree and not get on over the normal course of a discussion forum anyways - Why drag it down to a "He's on my foe list, so I don't like him" or "He's wrong, I'm going to put him in my foes list so everyone can see".

It's more fun when it's not as petty

What you've just said is all lies. Well you're wrong, I'm going to put you in my foes list so everyone can see.

You're on my foe list now, so I don't like you.

javaboy

nevf wrote: »

What you've just said is all lies. Well you're wrong, I'm going to put you in my foes list so everyone can see.

You're on my foe list now, so I don't like you.

Any foe of Fajitas is a foe of mine. Nevf added :mad:

RoundyMooney

javaboy wrote: »

Any foe of Fajitas is a foe of mine. Nevf added :mad:

+1

This isn't a good idea, as it invokes comparisons to the karma system-which died a death due to abuse.

Even the thanks system in its current guise has been abused by numpties who think that the amount of +1's or profile views one has on an internet site actually means diddly squat.

Besides, it's not too hard to figure out who the friends and foes are around here.

GuanYin

Dudess wrote: »

Yeah, what exactly would the advantage be? God knows there's enough hostility on Boards as it is.

[sings]Someones afraid that they'll be on the liiiii-ists......[/sings]

Dudess

RoundyMooney wrote: »

This isn't a good idea, as it invokes comparisons to the karma system-which died a death due to abuse.

What was the karma system?

javaboy

Isn't it implied that any boards users not explicitly on your friends list are your foes anyway?

Having to actually add them all would take ages.

Nevyn

Dudess wrote: »

What was the karma system?

http://wiki.boards.ie/wiki/Karma

The Karma system was a way of Moderators punishing/rewarding posters they thought needed it. Unlike the reputation system only moderators could issue points.

Because of this the system was horribly flawed. Moderators who got annoyed with someone in a different forum would punish them in the forum they moderated. Others would give points to friends.

It was eventually scrapped but not before Bubbles gave his account details out to everyone in protest.

It is also a gathering Card.

http://wiki.boards.ie/wiki/Reputation

People who got confused by the rep system, often started threads wondering about it or complaining. This usually resulted in Negative Rep for the thread poster.

The system for scoring was based on your rank (User, Moderator, Admin), your post count, your current repuation, when you registered your account and the reputation of the person you are giving good/bad rep to. Depending on these factors your score could change dramatically. In some cases having no effect on the other persons score.

Another flawed part of the system was the ability to leave anonymous messages with your reputation given. Some people used this to abuse other members thinking they could not be tracked. However the admins could see who sent the message and slapped a few people for doing this. At least one person was banned.

The admins switched off the anonymous reputation a short while before it was discontinued. The number of complaints and tit-for-tat reputation giving increased due to this and is probably in part of accelerating the shutting down of the reputation system.

Other rep threads include the now infamous Cuckoos Nest thread located here: http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=199089 This thread is quite the opposite to other reputation threads.

SimpleSam06

Overheal wrote: »

I've seen this on other message boards: along with your friends list would it be possible to add a foe list? Im looking at you, SimpleSam06.

Eh don't you know you need to look in the mirror and say my name five times to get me to show up? Seriously though, I'm active on a lot of other forums, moderator on a few of them, some have this system, I basically ignore it, despite having built up enormous friend and foe lists in some cases, entirely without my interaction on that level.

Most posters deal with posts on their individual merits, they might be in agreement on some things, but lay into other ideas with a will. Getting personal in discussion threads isn't constructive, which is why its a bannable offence, and a system like this lends itself to getting personal, or causing arguments where otherwise there need not have been any.

The Hill Billy

Overheal wrote: »

I've seen this on other message boards: along with your friends list would it be possible to add a foe list? Im looking at you, SimpleSam06.

Surely having a foe's list would only serve to be devisive & go against the grain of what boards is all about - ie, a community of communities.

-1

javaboy

Hill Billy wrote: »

Surely having a foe's list would only serve to be devisive & go against the grain of what boards is all about - ie, a community of communities.

-1

[divil's advocate]Interesting point but should we really try to create an artificial community where everybody is everybody's friend? In real life, people have enemies so if we are trying to replicate communities online, why shouldn't we have enemies there also?[/divil's advocate]

copacetic

javaboy wrote: »

[divil's advocate]Interesting point but should we really try to create an artificial community where everybody is everybody's friend? In real life, people have enemies so if we are trying to replicate communities online, why shouldn't we have enemies there also?[/divil's advocate]

most people don't have 'enemies' IRL. They have friends and stay away from people they don't like. On boards you are forced into close proximity with the opinions of people you may dislike. Why publish a list of them? Put them on ignore and keep it to yourself.

(Interesting that people are using putting people on ignore lists as an announcement a lot lately)

If this was actually going to happen you you could make the ignore list public and see how that goes.

The Hill Billy

javaboy wrote: »

[divil's advocate]Interesting point but should we really try to create an artificial community where everybody is everybody's friend? In real life, people have enemies so if we are trying to replicate communities online, why shouldn't we have enemies there also?[/divil's advocate]

I don't have enemies in real life. Certainly, there are people that I intensely dislike. I avoid or ignore them when possible, but I don't go around wearing a sandwich board stating "I think Xxxx Xxxxxxxxxx is a twat".

What would it achieve other than to advertise the fact that I let that person get up my nose so much that I had let the the world know? Smacks of insecurity if you ask me.

Overheal

Of course when I started this thread I was thinking more along the lines of "nemesis" and "worthy adversaries" but youve all gone and twisted it with your negativity. eww.

Jumpy

Personally I think "Boards Tribes" would be a better idea.

Then we could feud.

Who wants to be in NO*?





*No Overheals.

Overheal

Then we can play Boards Survivor and Lost: on Boards?

copacetic

Overheal wrote: »

Of course when I started this thread I was thinking more along the lines of "nemesis" and "worthy adversaries" but youve all gone and twisted it with your negativity. eww.

ignore list +1.:D


wish I had some worthy adversaries though. that'd be cool.

The Hill Billy

Overheal wrote: »

Of course when I started this thread I was thinking more along the lines of "nemesis" and "worthy adversaries" but youve all gone and twisted it with your negativity. eww.

Our negativity?

If you had phrased your original post better then we maybe wouldn't be having this discussion.

javaboy

Hill Billy wrote: »

Our negativity?

If you had phrased your original post better then we maybe wouldn't be having this discussion.

Stick him on your enemy list Hill Billy! That'll learn em.

faceman

Sure while we are at it, why not add a hottie list and a nottie list??

pirelli

SimpleSam06 wrote: »

Eh don't you know you need to look in the mirror and say my name five times to get me to show up? Seriously though, I'm active on a lot of other forums, moderator on a few of them, some have this system, I basically ignore it, despite having built up enormous friend and foe lists in some cases, entirely without my interaction on that level.

Most posters deal with posts on their individual merits, they might be in agreement on some things, but lay into other ideas with a will. Getting personal in discussion threads isn't constructive, which is why its a bannable offence, and a system like this lends itself to getting personal, or causing arguments where otherwise there need not have been any.

Hey, Simplesam06

What other forums are there besides boards.ie, are there really that many social forum's.

Granted there are high tech forums etc.. but actual social forums are really quite rare in ireland. I might join one to check it out.

javaboy wrote: »

[divil's advocate]Interesting point but should we really try to create an artificial community where everybody is everybody's friend? In real life, people have enemies so if we are trying to replicate communities online, why shouldn't we have enemies there also?[/divil's advocate]

It's nowhere near the same, some types of people ( not mentioning anyone ) , and by the way overheal your list would be very long, can be very personal or have a more risky sense of humour online while offline they are completely different, and before anyone disagree's with me, which happens online alot, there is no way that in real life enemys sit in close proximity and have very heated and personal conversation's.

Enemy's hate each other sometimes over things that were decades ago, and don;t really know each other, and some people hate people by just their name or as is commmon accent hair or background.

Online it's anonymous and enemy's can be friends and so forth. The reason from my perspective you should not compile a foe's list is -as has been pointed out - things get very personal, and users are identifiable and to have to tolerate anonymous hate mail would be demoralising, as well as illegal.


Some users have posted photo's and very basic identifiers and i am sure overheal has too, and it's because of these identifiers and regardless of whether I like you as a user, that I try to be reasonable and avoid the personal animosity and hate.

As real society is so different in so many ways to online community and because online community is more frequently caustic and because of the fact real people share their identifiable traits, then you have real life community merging into a online community. It would be the choice of sticking your hand into a wasps nest or a managing a beehive artificially.

In one instance you would get stung for real with little or no prospect of honey, while with a bee hive you can be the beekeeper and avoid stings and even get some honey albiet artificial tastless stuff, but at least it's honey.

Hill Billy wrote: »

Our negativity?

If you had phrased your original post better then we maybe wouldn't be having this discussion.

What do you think overheal, time to try out another online community that shares your views.

Overheal

pirelli wrote: »

something something caustic(?) something

What do you think overheal, time to try out another online community that shares your views.

So this has gone from a question about a feature from other boards and turned into GTFO Overheal? Dayamn. I think the thread has run its natural course. Conclusion: nobody likes the idea. Grand: Just Asking. Apologies for the brief/misleading OP on that regard.

/thread

copacetic

Overheal wrote: »

So this has gone from a question about a feature from other boards and turned into GTFO Overheal? Dayamn. I think the thread has run its natural course. Conclusion: nobody likes the idea. Grand: Just Asking.

/thread

on the bright side it looks like you'll have plenty of entries for your foes list if the idea every does come to fruition.

SimpleSam06

pirelli wrote: »

Hey, Simplesam06

What other forums are there besides boards.ie, are there really that many social forum's.

Granted there are high tech forums etc.. but actual social forums are really quite rare in ireland. I might join one to check it out.

Eh boards is where its at in terms of Irish social forums, there are a few others of course, but nothing in the same class, which is why we all love it. I was referring to those high tech forums of course, I hang out in slashdot a lot and have been known to troll fark from time to time, among others. I tried the property pin there, but while its a good read, its hard to find dissenting opinions (probably because they have it mostly right over there).

AARRRGH

Overheal wrote: »

I've seen this on other message boards: along with your friends list would it be possible to add a foe list? Im looking at you, SimpleSam06.

I think it would lead to bullying (like what happened with the reputation system) so I say no!

I think any additional features should be positive only, like the new "thanks" feature.

tallaght01

I'm bored. Anyone want a scrap?

Bob the Builder

tallaght01 wrote: »

I'm bored. Anyone want a scrap?

Who the fuck do you think you are, walking on here, thinking you're hard. You'll never be as cool as me...

I'm the clear winner of this scrap...