WC Requirements

Slig

Anybody know where to find the requirements for the amount of toilets that need to be provided in a commercial building?

Poor Uncle Tom

Metrick Handbook, Chapter 3, Sanitary Installations and Cloakrooms,
PM me your fax no. if you need a hardcopy of the pages.

Jimbo

The TGD's don't have any guidelines/requirements do they?
Is there anywhere in the Regs that refer to the Metric Handbook or is it just used for guidance?

Poor Uncle Tom

TGD's are mostly for domestic dwellings. Metric Handbook is UK based and has been referred to a few times by LA's.

Mellor

Bare in mind, the TGDs are only guidence, they are not the regs.
So the MHB is essentially the same thing

sinnerboy

BS 6465 Sanitary installations Part 1 : 1994 Code of
practice for scale of provision, selection and
installation of sanitary appliances

BS 6465 Sanitary installations Part 2 : 1996 Code of
practice for the scale of provision, selection and
installation of sanitary appliances

Are both cited in TGD G .

In the case of food outlets - the local environmental health dept. will have their own requiremnts - which around Dublin exceed what these BS ' s require

I Don't have any codes to hand but if commercial building is reasonably large then 1 WC + WHB per 25 persons is a good rule of thumb

For smaller buildings it is something like 1 WhB + WC for 1st 15 , and then 1 WHB + WC for each 25 after that , I would need to check that for sure however .

HeatLoad

Are British Standards valid in the R.O.Ireland and if so which body monitors them?

sinnerboy

I still have not located a copy of BS 6465 but rather a copy of AJ Metric handbook ..... and it references Tables from BS 6564

Table 1 - offices , shops factories

1-5 persons - 1WC , 1 WHB
6-25

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2 + 2
26-50

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3 + 3
and so on .

BS standards apply in Ireland where our regulations cite them

Usually it is architects , architectural technicians or engineers who take responsibility for compliance

Talwin

Meant to say ive sent a copy of both to slig if any body whats a copy pm me and i can email them on

BAZM8

sinnerboy wrote: »

BS 6465 Sanitary installations Part 1 : 1994 Code of
practice for scale of provision, selection and
installation of sanitary appliances

FYI This BS was updated in 2006 and i think some of the provisions are more onerous than previous edition particularly for shopping centres, so check the current one.

Talwin

cheers for that baz time to update the library

HeatLoad

sinnerboy wrote: »

.....BS standards apply in Ireland where our regulations cite them

Usually it is architects , architectural technicians or engineers who take responsibility for compliance

Sorry, my attempt at sarcasm! I was trying to make the point that there are certain developments that show little attention to standards, be they B.S. or I.S. In my opinion the planners are not knowledgeable enough to know what is in compliance and what isn't. It would be very interesting to inspect one hundred buildings at random that have been granted planning and check to see how many comply to standards. Some of the large estates that have been built by developers in recent years should prove very interesting.