which came first?

The Bollox

no no, this isn't ANOTHER chicken or the egg question. My question is did txt speak or l33t speak come first?

they are both very similar with the basics i.e. things like brb or ttyl. But the divide comes with in txt spk the idea is to make words as small as possible so you can maximise your text word amount. With l33t speak... I have no idea what the logic is behind it, I think it started as a very basic encryption to throw non computer-savvy people off a trail or something.

However they both would have kicked off at around the same time: around 10 or 12 years ago, so which came first?

Dun laoire

The Bollox wrote: »

no no, this isn't ANOTHER chicken or the egg question. My question is did txt speak or l33t speak come first?

they are both very similar with the basics i.e. things like brb or ttyl. But the divide comes with in txt spk the idea is to make words as small as possible so you can maximise your text word amount. With l33t speak... I have no idea what the logic is behind it, I think it started as a very basic encryption to throw non computer-savvy people off a trail or something.

However they both would have kicked off at around the same time: around 10 or 12 years ago, so which came first?

Yore Ma!!


I never get to say that

Sherifu

At a guess i'd say l33t.

Dun laoire wrote: »

Yore Ma!!


I never get to say that

Congratulations.

Blisterman

They were both invented some time in the 80's by Prince.

The Bollox

Blisterman wrote: »

They were both invented some time in the 80's by Prince.

before he changed his name to teh rtst 4mrly no'n as Prince, right?

Dave147

I would imagine l33t speak, of course I find it fun, and I have no problem whatsoever with people using acronyms, online or in texts. Just not ones that aren't mainstream.

However I do have a problem with text speak.. You see people up to the age of 21 mainly and sometimes older using it online!! The whole point of it is to fit what you want to say into one message. If I'm online I like to type 'tomorrow' not 'tmrw'. In a text to a friend and I have 7 characters left, and I know it's going to cost me 10c just to type 'tomorrow.' I will JUST about draw the line at using a full stop for the 10c..

Big Knox

|_337 $P34|< d3Ph1|\|47L'/ (4/\/\3 b3Ph0r3 7><7 $P34|<.

:pac:

Overheal

the definition of a chicken is it is born from an egg. hence the egg would have to come first. But it depends on wether you beleive evolution or creationsism.

text speak definitely came first. LOL being one of the very first. Along with asl, brb, thx, ppl, etcetera. It had more to do with 2 finger typists and instant messaging/IRC than character limits.

1337 5p34k was something invented by gamers to filter out skilled gamers from noobs in chat channels. eg. in Starcraft's battle.net you could weed out the idiots from the - well, other idiots - using leet speak and have games with them over the former brand of idiot.

kdouglas

Chicken!
.
.
.
.
.
.
.
.
No, wait, Egg, definitely Egg.


Seriously, I reckon l33t spk came first, it was around in the early days of teh intarwebs which was a good bit before prepay mobile phones became popular with teenagers.


Edit:

wikipedia wrote:

Leet originated within bulletin board systems in the 1980s,[1][2] where having "elite" status on a BBS allowed a user access to file folders, games, and special chat rooms, often including archives of pirated software, pornography, or text files documenting topics such as how to construct explosives and manufacture illegal drugs.

chin_grin

Learn to Google

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leet

Ponster

l33t was invented before phones were able to send txt's if that answers your question

Leet is more like 20-25 years old as opposed to 10-12 for txt-speech.

Overheal

its fun how we differentiate between leetspeak, netspeak and txtspk. isnt it all just garbage though?

BaconZombie

Binary rules the 10.

"There are only 10 types of people in the world: Those who understand binary, and those who don't"

Kold

Well leet speak is talked of ironically by old skoolers and txtspk is spoken fluently by stupid kids. Hopefully that's helpful.

BaconZombie

Kold:
I think you may want to read this:

Is Your Son a Computer Hacker?

Almost all "old skoolers" called it 31337 { Eleet} not 1337 { leet }.

Kold wrote: »

Well leet speak is talked of ironically by old skoolers and txtspk is spoken fluently by stupid kids. Hopefully that's helpful.

Steve_o

1 7/-/1/v/< l33t [4/\/\3 /=1/257

:pac:



sorry....

Dun laoire

Sherifu wrote: »

At a guess i'd say l33t.

Congratulations.

Thanks handsome. I've been waiting for months to pounce. I just missed out on the "Head shop" thread a week or so ago but today is my day to shine

Stercus Accidit

Big Knox wrote: »

|_337 $P34|< d3Ph1|\|47L'/ (4/\/\3 b3Ph0r3 7><7 $P34|<.

:pac:

leet speak definitely came before text speak

Steve_o wrote: »

1 7/-/1/v/< l33t [4/\/\3 /=1/257

[/SIZE]

I think leet came first


Bear in mind I hate all this ****, it was painful to read that.