Fastrack in AGS

Bren1609

I've heard that the PSNI and the Met fast track you if you have certain qualificatinos. Is this the case in AGS?

timmywex

Not afaik, but certain things would help big time, such as doing criminal justice in WIT or social science etc etc!

msg11

Doubt this... As far as I know AGS is an equal opportunities employer (think every employer has too be :pac:)

But I have heard there is lot of backstabbing and jumping over people to get where they want.

metman

Bren1609 wrote: »

I've heard that the PSNI and the Met fast track you if you have certain qualificatinos. Is this the case in AGS?

Both PSNI and the Met run the HPDS scheme, higher professional development scheme designed to attract and mould the 'future managers of the service'. Ideally they want candidates of graduate calibre, though this is not a prerequisite if you have the attributes and drive sought. Selection is by way of a complex written application, very competitive assessment centre, panel interviews, individual exercises and presentations etc etc. Once on the scheme it is said you can be an Inspector in 5 years and a Super in 7-8 if you work hard enough.

Personally while I fancy promotion I don't want to promote myself out of good job opportunities. Promotion rapidly closes doors to you in relation to specialist policing posts, and the higher up the rank ladder you are the less vacancies there are in specialist departments.

While I think the HPDS scheme is a good thing to have, I've also seen good cops get promoted quickly who aren't necessarily all about getting up the ladder as soon as possible. My personal view is that operational experience is essential in a role wherein people's lives, both public and police, are sometimes at risk. Operational experience cannot be taught by power-point.

ojewriej

metman wrote: »

Operational experience cannot be taught by power-point.

Very nicely put.

While it's good to have fast track type of programs i every job, in any police force experience should be valued very highly.

King Ludvig

timmywex wrote: »

Not afaik, but certain things would help big time, such as doing criminal justice in WIT or social science etc etc!

Woohoo! Doing Criminal Justice in WIT this September. Cant wait!

Victor

You do get a few pay increments for having relevant qualifications.

Marcus.Aurelius

Promotion is rarely about qualifications, experience or even skill/aptitude. You might skip a few pay increments, but your chances of promotion don't improve with degrees and the like.

It still is a quite backward organisation that way.

deadwood

Marcus.Aurelius wrote: »

Promotion is rarely about qualifications, experience or even skill/aptitude. You might skip a few pay increments, but your chances of promotion don't improve with degrees and the like.

It still is a quite backward organisation that way.

So, you've a B.A. then?:D

Marcus.Aurelius

deadwood wrote: »

So, you've a B.A. then?:D

BSc, BSc (H), PhD (well PhD is part-time, but nearly finished -w00t!)

deadwood

Healthy cynicism, degrees,(no Msc?) and well balanced with a chip on both shoulders.
Promote the likes of you? Are you mad? Things might change then and we couldn't have that! The very thought of it would make poor Lugs Brannigan spin in his grave.

Marcus.Aurelius

The MSc is sort of pointless in science, its either BSc or BSc PhD. Research or not.

I enjoy your cynicism too.

deadwood

Marcus.Aurelius wrote: »

The MSc is sort of pointless in science, its either BSc or BSc PhD. Research or not.

I enjoy your cynicism too.

BSc, PhD, BA yadda, yadda,
GSOH does me. (Like cheese with that?)