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6 Month Braces

  • 30-07-2008 12:11pm
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    Closed Accounts Posts: 118 ✭✭


    Just wondering has any heard or have these new 6 month braces...
    There been done in the ***mod edit*** Ive made an appointment but have to wait till the middle of August... So looking for some more info on them..

    There purely just to correct your smile nothing to to with an underbite or over jet...??? or any of the jax alingment stuff... there clear with two wires running through them, they look very neat indeed...

    So any info on them for me would be much appreciated


Comments

  • Subscribers Posts: 16,617 ✭✭✭✭copacetic


    They are just normal braces used for shorter time to correct cosmetic issues. I've been to seapoint recently and have to say they are really good so far although haven't got braces.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 118 ✭✭PinkPrincess26


    They wouldnt give a price over the phone.... can you tell me what they quoted you , if you dont mind??


  • Subscribers Posts: 16,617 ✭✭✭✭copacetic


    They wouldnt give a price over the phone.... can you tell me what they quoted you , if you dont mind??

    prices are on the website, so not sure why they wouldn't give them to you:

    **mod edit**

    However they might not think you are suitable so maybe thats why?
    I had a root canal redone and various other bits and pieces to tidy up things with a view to perhaps getting braces.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,332 ✭✭✭earlyevening


    Is it not better to get a qualified orthodontist to carry out orthodontic treatment rather than seeking a quick fix treatment that specialists don't seem to carry out?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 118 ✭✭PinkPrincess26


    Thanx, Ive looked at the web site loads of times and didnt see any pricing!!

    I havent had my consult yet, there probs just fed up with people asking for the prices over the phone when there clearly on there site!!


    And as for the quick fix comment...... thats exactly what Im looking for, i have a very small gap in between my 2 front teeth, and 2 mm over jet which is extremely small.... so its not as if its going to be a complicated case..


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 15 Wenlock


    Hi, I just made an appointment to see about getting 6 month braces too. Does anyone know of anyone whose actually done it. Some first hand experience would be very helpful :)


  • Subscribers Posts: 16,617 ✭✭✭✭copacetic


    Well I have got them on recently but couldn't say yet will they be successful or not. Otherwise can answer any particular question you might have above the process..


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 15 Wenlock


    You're going to regret you said that :) I have a ton of questions but I'll start slowly...

    Are they really only for 6 months? Or did they say "we'll see how it goes"
    Can you pay in installments?
    Are they sore?
    Did you get the clear or metal ones?
    Have you seen any improvement so far?

    And that's it really. Looks like a ton here actually means 5...


  • Subscribers Posts: 16,617 ✭✭✭✭copacetic


    they say 6, seem pretty sure about it, but I guess it would depend on your teeth. If they don't look suitable they won't do it for you.
    You can, for me it was basically half on first vist and the rest paid per visit.
    They were a little sore for first and am told at every adjustment they will be sore for a few days each time, your teeth move, it's sore, they stabilise, it's fine. They then are adjusted and its sore, etc etc
    Scraping of your cheeks, difficulty eating and getting used to speaking are my main problems.
    I got clear ones, they aren't noticeable from a distance but are bigger than metal ones so affect the inside of your lips and speaking a bit more. They still don't look very nice, but for me, most of that is all the bending the wire is doing because your teeth are all over the place. I decided to get my teeth whitened at the end, but wish now I had done it at the start too.

    Yep, decent amount of movement already, but you won't see it day to day, you need to take pics before you get them/first day and compare back to them.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,912 ✭✭✭SeantheMan


    Were the braces 'train tracks' venus,, or metal bars, or was it that invsialign stuff promoted on the site ??


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 10 venusspearl


    They were tooth coloured brackets and wires you wouldnt really notice them have to say. The invisalign was another option available to him they are totally clear no wires or anything but they take slightly longer I would of preferred them as they are more discreet but he wanted a quick fix so thats why he wanted the 6 month braces


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13,160 ✭✭✭✭banshee_bones


    wow i wasnt aware there was such a thing as 6 month braces! My bottom set are fine, i have no under or over bite, its literally my top 6 front teeth , the ones you see the most of course! that are crooked, saw a photo on one of those sites that look fairly similar to my own so im thinking i may be a candidate for this. Im such a doubting Thomas though! I reallt think this is too good to be true! and that there has to be some sort of catch (apart from the price obviously!)
    Thinking about attending the open evening in the seapoint clinic on the 26th of this month.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13,160 ✭✭✭✭banshee_bones


    copacetic wrote: »
    wouldn't normally do this but here are my results.

    wow... thats some result....


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 436 ✭✭Kila


    Congrats, you must be really pleased with those results. I'm still in treatment, 1 year in, about 1 to go...


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13,160 ✭✭✭✭banshee_bones


    Kila wrote: »
    Congrats, you must be really pleased with those results. I'm still in treatment, 1 year in, about 1 to go...

    no 6-9 months for you so. Did they say whay its not under the 12 month mark if you dont mind me asking? I just dont want to go in get them fitted and then get the news, if its going to take longer than 6 months id like to know from the start.


  • Subscribers Posts: 16,617 ✭✭✭✭copacetic


    mine took just over 7, most of the movement was in first 3 months, last 3 was the slow work on a couple of teeth, the extra month was for a troublesome one. They were clear at the beginning it could run over by a month or two to get the right results, but that my teeth were suitable since it was mostly moving front ones around the place. Getting adjustments every 3-4 weeks isn't pleasant but keeps everything on the move.

    You'll find that places that do 6 months will send you somewhere else if you need proper ortho work. I'm sure Kila didn't go for 6 months braces to begin with.

    Also be aware that after the 6 months you will have to wear some kind of retainer for a long time afterward, possibly every night for years and initally 24/7 for up to 6 months.

    I'm pretty happy, good to get teeth cleaned properly now and get the whitening done.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13,160 ✭✭✭✭banshee_bones


    well i just need to get my top 6 straightened out. I really doubt il be sent to a proper ortho as i dont have an over or under bite and i was at the dentist recently who said my teeth were in perfect condition. I really wouldnt mind wearing a retainer if it means just getting my teeth corrected once and for all.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 436 ✭✭Kila


    Sorry, I should really have clarified. I could have sworn I mentioned it, but looking back on my post, I didn't.

    I'm not in 6 month braces, I'm in regular braces. I had extractions and an overbite so didn't just need a few teeth straightened. I was never promised 6 months, I'm jealous of those who were!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 15 bobby77


    invisalign can be a good option for many mild cases, but don't get hooked up on the six month thing. Most 'mild' cases take longer than 6 months and invisalign isn't always suitable for all. It won't fix you bite etc. But if you only have a few wonky teeth then it could be just right for you.
    If you want quick treatment then you should get old fashioned train tracks. They are the normally the quickestform of treatment but like I said it means train tracks. Don't forget that you will need to wear a retainer afterwards, most orthodontists recommend that you should wear a retainer for as long as you want your teeth to remain straight! I see plenty of adult relapse cases in my practice ). Save your money and wear a retainer afterwards.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 247 ✭✭dentalnurse


    All i can say is its too much movement too soon, this can cause your roots to dissolve a little and then in turn make them loose and you could loose them!!! sorry thats just my opinion, its sounds great but i just wouldnt take the risk, voice your concernes with the orthodontist!! :)


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 247 ✭✭dentalnurse


    by the way you can get braces on the back of ur teeth now :)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 247 ✭✭dentalnurse


    oh sorry just read your other message, dont be jealous, your doing it the right way, teeth that are moved too quick will drift back just as quick anyway!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1 kiwi fruit


    Kiwi fruit, your cards are marked. 7 day ban for charter breach and I really suspect this is a pathetic attempt at shilling.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 599 ✭✭✭day dreamer


    If you have a very minor porblem any orthodontist can fix that in 6 or 9 months. The issues I have with 6 month braces and non specialists selling it are as follows:
    1) it costs the same as having a qualified specialist do the treatment - 4-5000,
    2) for the same money that is being quoted by the clinic you mentioned, and another 6-9 months of treatment, you could have the ideal outcome and the perfect bite and smile
    3) most (sane) people will only want orthodontic treatment once in their lives so you might as well get the best job done from the start
    4) the quicker teeth move the greater the risk of relapse- teeth going crooked again - and root resorbtion or shortening

    that is my two cents but it is your money and your decision, but I think a dentist or orthodontist should not have to "sell" good dental and healthcare


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 698 ✭✭✭vishal


    point no. 4 is not true imho. retainers need to be worn after comprehensive ortho just the same as 6 month. a lateral incisor moved out of xbite without proper torque will relapse quicker after 6 months in treatment because the root has still been left behind but one could not say say after 1 year after treatment retainers would not have to be worn. also deep bites may relapse quicker because you don't have enough torque and proper interincisal angles and centric stops.

    also about root resorption is not true. the biggest factor in root resorption is a genetic predisposition to it, as well as local factors like truama, thin roots as well as trying to correct skeletal problems with tooth movement alone instead of jaw surgery/functional appliances.

    Actually people who have existing root resorption many orthodontists will shorten treatment times or take breaks.

    fair enough on the other points though


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 599 ✭✭✭day dreamer


    hi vishal

    thanks for picking up on that. The last point I was trying to make was that if the job is done correctly as best as it can be done, the result and the long term stability will be better. Of course retainers need to be used long term for all patients, I would use bonded retainers indefinitely but if the teeth are finished properly as you outline the ammount of relapse could be lower.

    In terms of root resorbtion a patient cannot change their genetic predisposition (not yet anyway) or short/thin/blunt/pippette roots but an orthodontist can decide not to treat a case with high resorbtion risks or not use heavy forces in an attempt to finish in 6 months what should take longer.

    Glad to see someone is keeping me on my toes!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,535 ✭✭✭btkm8unsl0w5r4


    I am glad to see so many knowledge orthodontist on the forum, keep up the good work fellows.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7 San Antonio


    Dentalnurse You need a little more info, 6 Month Braces start with .014 Ni Ti Wire. I do both Regular Ortho and 6 Month Ortho. Regular Ortho initially starts with .018 NiTi wire. This is a bigger wire and so puts more force on the teeth. Short Term Ortho uses lighter forces over a shorter time frame which results in less root resorption ( What you call dissolving roots ).
    There is a genetic element also to root resorption.
    A little Knowledge can be a dangerous thing!!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,535 ✭✭✭btkm8unsl0w5r4


    A little Knowledge can be a dangerous thing!!

    I think thats the point :rolleyes:


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 599 ✭✭✭day dreamer


    "Regular Ortho initially starts with .018 NiTi wire".

    If you use an 018 slot you couldnt start with an 0.018 niti, most orthodontists in Ireland and elsewhere use 022 and would start with 0.014 or 0.013 niti, not 0.018.
    What you say about the resorbtion is true of course but the teeth would have to be pretty well aligned to start with and 018 niti


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3 Sineadm


    Hi, ive just had my braces (6 month smile) fitted and so far i can definitely see a difference, although it depends on your individual needs(i also had a problem with my bite).I had clear porcelain on top which look great, dosent even look as though your wearing a brace.
    Although i didnt go to the <snip>, i went to a gentleman by the name of <snip> in Limerick,<snip>, i was seen immediately and as i am particularly self conscious about my teeth, i am glad to say that i was immediately at ease, nice location, lovely staff and also very reasonably priced and also accepts payments in installments.

    Please don't post in old threads - it's called necro posting. Please don't post the same post across multiple threads, it's called spam. Please don't name clinics or dentists on this forum. PLEASE READ THE FORUM CHARTER BEFORE POSTING!!!!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,039 ✭✭✭bazmaiden


    Sineadm wrote: »

    Please don't post in old threads - it's called necro posting.

    ha


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,535 ✭✭✭btkm8unsl0w5r4


    shill(2).jpg

    Think this one has run it course, only necro shills will post here. Closed


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