Fratellis

paddylonglegs

Just heard their latest release on d'radio.I just don't know how they are able to get away with the terrible music they produce.Latest one just sounds like a rake of 1995 Oasis songs banged together with absolutely nil new or innovative sound to it.Their last couple sounded like slade had reformed under the guise of this crowd.

Just goes to show how a band can still survive with a second album on the back of one hit single

Everybody!DO DA DO, DO DA DO, DO DA DO DA DO DA DO.

Edit:Woops guess this should have gone under bands you hate,just noticed it.sorry for the seperate thread!

oldscoil

Nah Paddy I think the Fartellis (sic) deserve their own thread, thats how **** they are.

Their other stuff thus far has been bad, but passible.

But their new song is just the kind of sh1te that made the Ramones and the Pistols form.

Its honey drippin' on the dog turd, made mostly of sweetcorn (we've all seen those ones).
I can just image them on Top of the Pops circa 75, all flares and glittter.

Why PhantomFM insist on playing it everyday morning while I'm stuck in traffic on the way to work, and every evening on my way home again, is one of the reasons i've tuned off 105.2.

lordgoat

oldscoil wrote: »

Why PhantomFM insist on playing it everyday morning while I'm stuck in traffic on the way to work, and every evening on my way home again, is one of the reasons i've tuned off 105.2.

I actually turn my radio off on the journey these days as phantom in the monrning is as predicitible as the fratellis next song is going to be sh-it.

Aspiration

Also not a fan of The Fratellis. I was listening to the radio one night - can't remember which station - but one of their songs was played and then 1 of the 2 presenters said "God I hate the fratellis. They're so unoriginal but I must give them credit for keeping their heads above the water"

If they stopped playing their music it would mean the fratellis could disappear sooner and their heads wouldn't be above the water any more imo...

Dudess

Oh they are particularly horrid all right. I mean, of the current generic crop, there is the odd band with the odd goodish number... but anything I've heard by the Fratellis is just awful. Really, really awful.

nyarlothothep

they are whats wrong with music simply. Crap inane noise---dadadadadodeda etc, obnoxiously mastered and designed to sell like hamburgers. And then they get the stamp of critical approval.

loyatemu

I know very little about them - but what I have heard doesn't sound that awful. They seem to be mashup of Supergrass, Oasis and Slade. Not particularly original, but anything I have heard has been pretty catchy.

Creamy Goodness

yup terrible band that are riding the wave of writing one catchy chorus.

dead air

Wow, thought I was the only one. I saw this thread simply entitled "Fratellis" and I rolled my eyes thinking it was a praise fest for this insipid excuse for indie/rock music. What a pleasant surprise that I'm not alone in detesting this band, and everything that goes with it!

I heard people talking about how great this band were for such a long time before I found out they were responsible for that dododdododado musical sewage that made my ears bleed, and not in a good spinal tap way.

markyedison

I'm going to go ahead and assume that none of the previous posters have listened to the Costello Music album. Their new stuff may be crap and Chelsea dagger's ubiquity is grating but that first album is fantastic. I still listen to it about once a week.

It may not have reinvented the wheel but it remains a great collection of punchy, dancey tunes. Saw them in marley park last year and danced until I collapsed.

their old demos , pre-costello music, are **** and so is the new album but somehow they managed to make one album that makes me smile.

Cheers,
marky

TestTransmission

markyedison wrote: »

I'm going to go ahead and assume that none of the previous posters have listened to the Costello Music album. Their new stuff may be crap and Chelsea dagger's ubiquity is grating but that first album is fantastic. I still listen to it about once a week.

It may not have reinvented the wheel but it remains a great collection of punchy, dancey tunes. Saw them in marley park last year and danced until I collapsed.

their old demos , pre-costello music, are **** and so is the new album but somehow they managed to make one album that makes me smile.

Cheers,
marky

You're taking the piss arent you

mehfesto2

The thing that annoys me are the bandwagoneers jumping onto the hate the Fratellis.

You can say what you want about them, I couldn't give a sh*te, but when they're writing the list of important bands from the 00's, The Fratellis will definately feature. Probably based on that one song, mind. But still, they're gonna be remembered. They made a very, very popular anthem and followed it up with a decent one that keeps them popular. Not everyones cuppa tea, but not the worst band out nowadays. Not by a longshot.

It's pretensious ****s that hate the fratellis and the like now, that think skatman john, Journey etc are 'ironically brilliant' nowadays. Sad, really. No need for hating a band when they're so easily avoided.

paddylonglegs

mehfesto2 wrote: »

It's pretensious ****s that hate the fratellis and the like now, that think skatman john, Journey etc are 'ironically brilliant' nowadays. Sad, really. No need for hating a band when they're so easily avoided.

Ah in fairness if you are going to release a few tunes that are uninspirational and tired to the general public,then not many will give them a chance.They have received no praise for their work from either their peers nor music critics,suggesting that their latest work is run-of-the-mill and mundane,which would go on to suggest it was produced by their record execs to shift a few units.

I haven't listened to their first album,but from what the other poster is suggesting,I would give it a crack,just to see what they were like before their "difficult" second album.

On the pretentious thing,wheres the pretentiousness of Journey or Scatman John?I wouldn't use brilliant or scatman john in the same sentence ever,for me Journey was some wash-out band brought to revived fame (like every has been celebrity jumping on the 80s bandwagon,Hasslehoff ex) by The Sopranos and Ray Foley from Today FM.

omb0wyn5ehpij9

Wow....a lot of hatred for the Fratellis in here :eek: I have their first album and really like it, but ive heard their second album a few times and i wouldn't take it as a freebie!

Dudess

mehfesto2 wrote: »

You can say what you want about them, I couldn't give a sh*te

It doesn't look that way.

but when they're writing the list of important bands from the 00's, The Fratellis will definately feature. Probably based on that one song, mind. But still, they're gonna be remembered.

I'd strongly disagree - I predict they'll fade into the ether for being so downright unremarkable.

Not everyones cuppa tea

Exactly, so what's the problem with people being critical of them here?

but not the worst band out nowadays. Not by a longshot.

That line is always trotted out by people who get annoyed by criticism of a band - so what if they're not the worst band by a longshot? Is that really relevant? The point is, they're the band in question here, and they're considered sh1te. Are we supposed to "leave them off" to a degree just because Westlife are worse? (Debateable). "Not the worst band nowadays by a longshot" is hardly something to aspire to anyway. That's hardly gonna give a band credibility.

It's pretensious ****s that hate the fratellis and the like now, that think skatman john, Journey etc are 'ironically brilliant' nowadays.

I just think the Fratellis are crap, I also have no time for postmodern irony nonsense. Why do you feel you can make generalisations like that?

Sad, really. No need for hating a band when they're so easily avoided.

What? So people can't express their opinions? Obviously you really like them - otherwise you wouldn't be so defensive of them - that's your opinion, fair enough. But does that give you the right to attack the opinions of others just because they're at odds with yours? And "sad" - how is it "sad"? Say you don't like Journey - does that make you sad so in the eyes of Journey fans? And "no need for hating a band when they're so easily avoided"? That could be applied to anyone - including the bands you don't like!

What you seem to be saying is it's unreasonable to voice your dislike of a particular act. Well I think the Fratellis are awful - no hidden agenda or anything, I simply don't like them.

Orizio

I'm sorry but I collapsed in laughter with that the Fratellis are one of the most important bands of the 00's remark. What bands have you been listening to?

dead air

Likening the Fratellies to the one of the most important bands of the 00s is naive and a slap in the face to the real pioneers of music that have emerged in the last 8 years.

I was a little harsh in my earlier post, but I do feel that they are uninspired and more than a little bland. Kudos to markyedison, he's found something in this band that he likes and he's not afraid to be the first to stick up for them, despite all the negative feelings towards them.

But calling music fans who don't like the Fratellies pretentious and assuming that they listen to "ironically brilliant" music despite not having a clue what their individual taste in music they have is uncalled for, and a little bitter. If you're going to defend your favourite bands, don't just insult the other debaters!

My opinion: The Fratellies are redundant, they're a young band that got lucky. They'll probably still play your favourite Irish festival for the next two years anyway before they are never heard of again. I'm quite happy enough to avoid this band.

Xavi6

Lol they're playing over here this week and my mate asked me if I'd fancy going. I said no cause I don't know any of their stuff. Judging by this thread I won't be finding out either!

Chong

I saw them in concert recently and they were so bad, they have no stage presence whatsoever.

paddylonglegs

dead air wrote: »

My opinion: The Fratellies are redundant, they're a young band that got lucky. They'll probably still play your favourite Irish festival for the next two years anyway before they are never heard of again. I'm quite happy enough to avoid this band.

Agreed.Any band worth their salt will realise that to have a monster hit like chelsea dagger will need to rise above it by producing better material after it.Truth is that fratellis are still riding the chelsea dagger wave but have produced a new album with some stagnant tunes to keep them going.

insinkerator

Yes the Fratellis are a terrible band in my opinon, and i agree with everyone that says they are riding the Chelsea Dagger wave. I saw them recently in concert and i was amazed to find that a band, playing in front of thousands of 'fans', a band that have released a new album and i trying to promote had people chanting chelsea dagger in the middle of their other tracks. That screams one hit wonder to me.

Now dont get me wrong, i dont disregard any band on the pretence of them being a one hit wonder but i also find that the rest of their music, all sounds like the same. generic, jumpy pop, i-wanna-be-the-next-chelsea-dagger sound to it.......

Dudess

Chelsea Dagger is a horrid, horrid song.

KnifeWRENCH

Dudess wrote: »

Chelsea Dagger is a horrid, horrid song.

Indeed. It is one of the worst songs of ALL time imo. I hated it from the very first time I heard it, and it's ubiquity has just made me detest it so much more.

Their other stuff isn't as bad, but they've yet to realise anything that I'd actually voluntarily listen to.

Is chelsea dagger that track where theres like a dude just going 'woh, woh, woh' or something for the most part?..Im not sure if its the same track im thinking of now, but if so, surely one ofd the most annoying tracks in the last couple of years..I dont really think ive paid any attention to them...just seen em on mtv2 a couple of times i reckon,.but for some reason i cant say the word 'fratellis' without 'suck ass' after it..and generally 'the' before it..

Bubs101

Dudess wrote: »

Chelsea Dagger is a horrid, horrid song.

As a drunken loutish song it's brilliant. The Fratelli's aren't my cup of tea personally but they do get good reviews and have always seemed like decent guys so I think people could be being a bit harsh here

JaneyMc

Heard something on the news this morning that they wont be doing anymore touring outside the UK and Ireland.Apparently there was an "incident" on a plane to/from Austrailia that they were travelling on, and now the lead singer is terrified of flying and he refuses to fly anywhere.

mehfesto2

Dudess, I don't particularly like the fratellis myself, but do appreciate what they do. They are a festival band first and foremost. Anyone who saw them at any festival will tell you they were a laugh. Like the Kaiser Chiefs.

They're hardly challenging us mentally in the ways other bands are, but that's not the point of them. They make music to sing along to and enjoy without switching t'auld brain on. I mean, who would honestly assume The Darkness were to be taken seriously?! They weren't. Not all 'alternative music' subscribes to the serious, shoegazing model!

I have no hidden agenda. I just don't see the point in hating a band. I don't like lots of bands myself, but I wouldn't hark on about it to the masses, downplaying other peoples opinions. What benefit can ever be had from hating?

Music is a personal thing. Im all for discussion, but surely it's pointless airing how much you hate a particular band on a forum. Unless you're looking for some sort of internet 'street cred', I guess. But nobody's going to read a post like this and say to themselves, "actually, come to think of it, the Fratellis are sh*te.

I only feel they will be remembered in the media as important, as when you look back at shows, polls etc that charted the 100 songs/bands of a given decade, it always features bands with songs that were singalongable, memorable and people could associate with a given time.
Chelsea Dagger will always remind me of ****** '07. That was a good memory, and that's the song that takes me back. Im sure a lot of people associate it with other great memories as it was radio-played so much.

I mean Rolling Stone magazine always have Smoke On The Water by Deep Purple in their top 50 songs of all time. They were hardly a band to be remembered by themselves! A hit as big as Chelsea Dagger can make a band more important than they are/should ever be.

hussey

JaneyMc wrote: »

Heard something on the news this morning that they wont be doing anymore touring outside the UK and Ireland.Apparently there was an "incident" on a plane to/from Austrailia that they were travelling on, and now the lead singer is terrified of flying and he refuses to fly anywhere.

I hope not I am seeing them next week!

I liked their first album, so I'll judge them when I see them live :pac:

JaneyMc

Well it must have been on thier way to Austrailia, so I think you're safe. Just anywhere after Austrailia is fecked.

JerryHandbag

First we had Toploader, then Kaiser Chiefs and now these morons....chelsea dagger sounds like the music that should play when someone scores 180 in darts, pure circus music. But maybe theyre not meant to be taken seriously, and I certainly don't

Royale with Cheese

Chelsea Dagger was an awful song. Drunken loutish music. Costello Music was actually an alright album though. Their new song is plenty bland and I can see them disappearing before too long.

hussey

I just seen these guys play Sydney last night, I have to say I thoroughly enjoyed the gig, they played a great mix of songs, the crowd was very happy and I really enjoyed it. 4/5 for teh gig for me.

I enjoy the Fratellis the same way I enjoy Will Ferrall movies, not too seriously. :pac:

Ryaller

mehfesto2 wrote: »

but when they're writing the list of important bands from the 00's, The Fratellis will definately feature.

Yeah, let's see how that pans out shall we?

Neanderthal grunt music for knuckle-draggers.
And the three of them look like they could do with a good wash.

Slutmonkey57b

JerryHandbag wrote: »

First we had Toploader, then Kaiser Chiefs and now these morons.

Say what you like about the Kaiser Chiefs, but they put a lot of effort into being a great festival band. The Fratellis, on the other hand, are a bunch of limp dickwads on stage.

Fanny Cradock

Not meaning to jump on the bandwagon here, but I recently had the misfortune to hear one of their songs recently. Call me a judgemental git, yet after that one song, I was had them figured out as the type of band to churn out the same old odious 'rock by numbers' guff you hear quite often these days. Surely rubbish like this is not actually considered indie music?