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Are employers legally obliged to give you everything advertised in a job spec?

  • 23-07-2008 8:25am
    #1
    connundrum
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,563 ✭✭✭


    Apologies for the long title, but I couldn't think of a better way to word it.

    Basically, the current job I'm in was advertised as coming with:

    VHI
    Pension
    Yearly salary review
    Mobile
    Bonus

    In two years, the mobile and the Christmas bonus is all I've seen. There was talk of a pension scheme being started, but that was about 10 months ago now and despite asking till I'm blue in the face it doesn't look like it will be anything more than talk.

    VHI wasn't even talked about, despite me asking about it several times.

    Yearly salary review just hasn't happened, after two years in the same position.

    What to do? I presume the advice will be along the lines of 'talk to your employer and state your concerns', but we're a bit beyong that now as I've already done this a couple of times - as have colleagues.

    Is the only option to move away from this company?


Comments

  • #2
    dr.bollocko
    Moderators, Music Moderators Posts: 35,945 Mod ✭✭✭✭dr.bollocko


    rationally, if they are not giving you what you have been told you would get, and this makes you unhappy, the adult thing to do would be to leave the company and steal a stapler.


  • #3
    Iago
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,638 ✭✭✭Iago


    read your contract, if it mentions VHI, yearly salary review & pension then you're covered. If it doesn't then you're not.

    Really doesn't matter what's on the job spec if you sign a contract with different terms.


  • #4
    mikemac
    Closed Accounts Posts: 19,986 ✭✭✭✭mikemac


    Who advertised the job?

    Like it you saw an agency advertising the job and they are well known for bending the truth.
    As an example, my company is recruiting more people for the role that I do.
    The job is up on websites and it shows a salary of 10k more than I get.:mad:

    Complaints were made to HR (don’t have a union) and the agency had to correct the ad and management told us the salary was way off. I certainly hope so!

    Was the VHI, review,etc in the contract you signed when you started? You have a better case then


  • #5
    leeroybrown
    Closed Accounts Posts: 7,563 ✭✭✭leeroybrown


    Unless these benefits are explicitly referred to in your contract then I don't think you'll get far if they don't plan on giving them to you. If I were in your position I'd start looking for a new job that offers the benefits you want.


  • #6
    growler
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,188 ✭✭✭growler


    read your employment contract, what was advertised and what you signed up to are two completely different things.

    very few companies would guarantee a bonus to anyone but a CEO type, bonuses would always be at the company's discretion.


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  • #7
    useless
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 788 ✭✭✭useless


    remember too that 'salary review' is not the same as 'salary increase'....


  • #8
    dade
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,178 ✭✭✭dade


    and i believe a PRSA pension is a legal requirement but am open to correction on that


  • #9
    leeroybrown
    Closed Accounts Posts: 7,563 ✭✭✭leeroybrown


    There is a requirement for employers who don't provide a standard pension to provide at least one Standard PRSA option so that employees can avail of the available tax reliefs. That said, I'm reasonably certain that the OP means a real pension scheme. If an employer offered me a job including a pension and then came back with just a PRSA offer I'd probably laugh at them.


  • #10
    connundrum
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,563 ✭✭✭connundrum


    useless wrote: »
    remember too that 'salary review' is not the same as 'salary increase'....

    Understood, but I wouldn't expect an increase without even discussing it first - hence the need for the review.

    Besides, I've a feeling that if I even asked now I'd be given the recession speech and told to fook off.
    leeroybrown wrote: »
    If an employer offered me a job including a pension and then came back with just a PRSA offer I'd probably laugh at them.

    Agreed. Like I said, there was 'talk' of a proper pension, but that has gone with the wind.

    None of the above was written into the contract, just on the job advert. I guess I've no legal standing, so that is pretty much that :(


  • #11
    Miss Fluff
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,673 ✭✭✭Miss Fluff


    Who have you broached it with? Have you spoken to HR about it?


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  • #12
    snellers
    Closed Accounts Posts: 465 ✭✭snellers


    From the day you sign your contract if the specific details you require (or have 'agreed' during negotiation) are not in the contract....and you sign it.....then you only have yourself to blame.

    as for the company 'talking' about starting a pension scheme that is merely speculation but other conditions such as health cover 'should' be in the contract with conditions attached (e.g. after 12 months continuous service....), providing the company offer this perk

    suggest you check out the contract! hopefully you find something in it! :-)


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