Blarg, christians

Weidii

Did anyone else see that documentary on channel 4 (or possibly BBC) today about the race to convert africa to christianity/islam?

It was so sick seeing african men in rigouts that belong on old, hunched Irish men.

Rev Hellfire

I feel your righteous anger !

markyedison

could be a good thing. during the european 'dark ages' ireland was a sanctuary of intellectual and scientific development, and the catholic church and its armies( along with our unique geographic position ) was a significant factor in that.

it could be argued that large swathes of africa are suffering thru a 'dark age' at the mo, and that a unifying faith such as either of those mentioned may be beneficial in uniting the disparate people of those various 'failed states'.

cheers,
marky

Flamed Diving

Christianity led Europe out of a dark age? I must have missed that epoch of human history!

CerebralCortex

markyedison wrote: »

could be a good thing. during the european 'dark ages' ireland was a sanctuary of intellectual and scientific development, and the catholic church and its armies( along with our unique geographic position ) was a significant factor in that.

Correct me if Im wrong but I thought the catholic church was responsible for the dark ages and that Roman Catholiscism didnt exist in Ireland but more of a celtic Christianity that the RC were non too happy about?

Africa needs logic and reason not fairy tales?

toiletduck

Weidii wrote: »

Did anyone else see that documentary on channel 4 (or possibly BBC) today about the race to convert africa to christianity/islam?

Don't suppose you remember the name of it?

markyedison

CerebralCortex wrote: »

Correct me if Im wrong but I thought the catholic church was responsible for the dark ages and that Roman Catholiscism didnt exist in Ireland but more of a celtic Christianity that the RC were non too happy about?

You're quite likely right about the celtic christianity bit. It has been many a year since I read Medieval History (ah, junior cert memories). IIRC the dark ages followed the fall of the roman empire and much of europe was conquered by Vandals, Goths and other groups with cool names. Many european scholars and such fled to ireland because the barbarians hadn't made it that far. Apparently that's the origin of the 'land of saints and scholars' tag for our fair land.

Africa needs logic and reason not fairy tales?

defo agree, I'm just musing here. always like to see the positive.

cheers,
marky

Standman

CerebralCortex wrote: »

Correct me if Im wrong but I thought the catholic church was responsible for the dark ages and that Roman Catholiscism didnt exist in Ireland but more of a celtic Christianity that the RC were non too happy about?

Africa needs logic and reason not fairy tales?

Here's an inspiring excerpt from a TED Talk with this amazing guy Chris Abani from Nigeria:

wrote:

The Ebo used to say that they built their own god's. They would come together as a community and they would express a wish. Their wish would then be brought to a priest who would find a ritual object, the appropriate sacrafices would be made, and then a shrine would be built for the god. But if the god became unruly and began to ask for human sacrafice, the Ebo's would destroy the god, they would knock down the shrine, and they would stop saying the god's name. This is how they came to reclaim their humanity.

Every day, all of us here, we have been building gods that have gone rampant, and it's time we started knocking them down and forgetting their names.

That's some serious wisdom! If you get a chance you should check out the video:

http://youtube.com/watch?v=iCermULRk-I

CerebralCortex

markyedison wrote: »

defo agree, I'm just musing here. always like to see the positive.

Thats a good outlook I could do with being more positive myself.