Slievenamon

Frisbee

Was thinking of joining Slievenamon Golf Course on a distance membership just to get my handicap so I could play in Open competitions closer to home and just have a few questions.

How long does it take for them to sort out your membership once you've paid your fees.
Like I dont have many weekends free to play but I have a free weekend in two weeks whoch would be my next chance for a while.
(Thats really one for the member I know)

And aswell, for anyone who's played it is it a nice course?

callaway92

Everyone says it is a terrible course (which I kind of agree with) but it is NOT easy. If you are not hitting straight you are in trouble. Greens are usually rock hard. But the thing is usually people that are handicaps 13/14 there should be off 17/18 in other courses. Only 1 par 5 there and it is reachable with Driver mid iron. Distant Member ship is cheap though. I would recommend it but whatever handicap they give you on any other course you would be 2/3 shots more because Slieve is so short

Andystoran

I joined last week on Monday and had my GUI card and other stuff by friday. I still have to play a couple of more rounds to get my handicap...Its not a terrible course. Its short and a bit featureless but if your a golfer learning the game and you just want a handicap quickly it seems like the best option.

Im a small bit worried that i may be given a handicap lower than what im capable of though. Iv been told not to play well ther coz il be given a small handicap...I played with members who are aware that a fair few bandits come through the club as distance members. They kept a close eye on my play.

callaway92

Ya..Its the erfect place for a .1 Good few fcekers from Cahir go to get their .1's there.

NuFlyer

Andystoran wrote: »

Im a small bit worried that i may be given a handicap lower than what im capable of though. Iv been told not to play well ther coz il be given a small handicap...I played with members who are aware that a fair few bandits come through the club as distance members. They kept a close eye on my play.

Your first handicap should be lower than you are capable of playing to. It gives you time to earn the right to a handicap, and earn an accurate handicap.
Waaay too many players out there who get easy handicaps and blackguard with it. We have a mentality in Ireland of one-upmanship, of trying to get the quick fix, screw someone when you get a chance.
Golf is a great game, self regulating and should be played with integrity.

PhilipMarlowe

Andystoran wrote: »

Iv been told not to play well ther coz il be given a small handicap...

Whoever told you that is a clown.
You play as well as you can every time you play and you get the result that you get.
There will be loads of days when you won't play to your potential but that is not the same as setting out to play poor golf. It's cheating and for what? So you can be yet another winner of an open competition from slievenamon?
Wait for the sound of one hand clapping...

Andystoran

Licksy wrote: »

Whoever told you that is a clown.
You play as well as you can every time you play and you get the result that you get.
There will be loads of days when you won't play to your potential but that is not the same as setting out to play poor golf. It's cheating and for what? So you can be yet another winner of an open competition from slievenamon?
Wait for the sound of one hand clapping...

Probably need to explain myself here.

Iv been playing off 20 with a society and have played a few outings. After the 1st outing i went up to 21 and after 4 outings im back to 20 again. Basically the standard scratch is usually the amount of points that i come in with (not far off anyway), which leads me to believe i am a 20 handicap..

Now iv played 1 round in slievenamon where i played poorly and wouldve come out with a lot more points than usual because the course is particularly short...All im saying is the worry is that id be given a 15 or 14 handicap and that i wouldnt be capable. But as u rightly say its better to have a tough handicap, it will drive u on..I just want a fair handicap and i think the course is a bit easier than any iv played previous.

I am not a bandit! a Dick Turpin!

Played a comp with a guy last week who was playing off 17 and was driving the ball at least 250 straight and consistently. the rest of his game was as good. He cruised to 44 points. Hilarious stuff, it was banditary of the highest order!!!:rolleyes:

NuFlyer

We are not blaming you directly, it's just as you have seen, some guys & gals out there are sooo unashamedly corrupt, they give the occasional bandit a bad name. And it's places like these small rural clubs who basically 'sell' handicaps that foster the Dick Turpins.
You are honest and up front and want a fair deal, but there are those out there who just want to skive, scrimp and steal their way in golf. Winning isn't everything, having one of the best rounds of your year is a great feeling.
There's too much emphasis on competition, especially for beginners. Just go play and enjoy the game.

PhilipMarlowe

Andystoran wrote: »

Basically the standard scratch is usually the amount of points that i come in with (not far off anyway), which leads me to believe i am a 20 handicap..

This could be some explanation here too....
A 13-20 Handicapper is in category 3 I think, so you'd have a buffer of +3
If you were 21+, you'd be in category 4 so a buffer of +4

You are not expected to shoot 36 points. 33-36 points is playing to your handicap (assuming SSS is the same as par).
So you could be off 17 and bringing in 33 points and that would be considered playing to your handicap and no adjustment would be made.

Andystoran

Licksy wrote: »

This could be some explanation here too....
A 13-20 Handicapper is in category 3 I think, so you'd have a buffer of +3
If you were 21+, you'd be in category 4 so a buffer of +4

You are not expected to shoot 36 points. 33-36 points is playing to your handicap (assuming SSS is the same as par).
So you could be off 17 and bringing in 33 points and that would be considered playing to your handicap and no adjustment would be made.

Well i was getting 26-28 points playing off 20.Standard scratch i was sure was an average of everybodys points. 35 points would have won the outings i played. Im new to the game just started in january this year so im still learning how it works.

PhilipMarlowe

From [url]www.congu.com:[/url]

The Standard Scratch Score (SSS) is a measure of the playing difficulty of a golf course for a scratch golfer under normal midseason course and weather conditions...

CONGU does not consider that Par provides a suitable basis for a reliable and robust handicap system. Par is a very crude measure of the playing difficulty of a golf course. Two courses having the same Par may vary in length by many hundred yards. To illustrate how great this difference can be, consider two courses laid out in similar terrain:

Course A – Four Par 3 holes each 140 yards in length and Fourteen Par 4 holes each 300 yards in length. Total course length 4760 yards. Par 68
Course B – Four Par 3 holes each 220 yards in length and Fourteen Par 4 holes each 400 yards in length
Total course length 6480 yards. Par 68.

Assuming similar relative playing difficulties on each course, the scoring potential of a scratch golfer on the shorter course A would be quite different from that expected on the longer Course B.
Although each has a Par of 68 the respective Standard Scratch Scores would be of the order of 63 and 71 respectively. It is obvious therefore, that Par does not provide a viable basis for handicapping.

Frisbee

Anyone know if there's a B+B or anything near enough to the course?

Planning on going down for the weekend and playing three rounds so I can play in some Open's up here and dont really fancy kipping in the car....

Mister Sifter

Here's a couple of options...

http://www.hillcourt.com/

http://www.farrenwick.com/

Trampas

I was a member here until I sorted out a place nearer to me as my original course closed down due to a road going through it now. Sort of a stop gap place I saw it.

You will get some funny looks when you are playing opens as they will think your a bandit.

WHIP IT!

Trampas wrote: »

I was a member here until I sorted out a place nearer to me as my original course closed down due to a road going through it now. Sort of a stop gap place I saw it.

You will get some funny looks when you are playing opens as they will think your a bandit.

F*ck them - as long as you're honest, they can all look as funny as they like!

Andystoran

WHIP IT! wrote: »

F*ck them - as long as you're honest, they can all look as funny as they like!

Agreed:)

Theres something like 2000 distance members in Slievenamon and the vast majority are just lads that want to be able to play opens without paying big fees. There not trying to fool anybody.

callaway92

Open day every monday btw....Played yesterday had a dissapointing 35 points after being 19 after F9...The is a B&B in Powerstown but I couldnt tell you the name

Frisbee

Graeme1982 wrote: »

Here's a couple of options...

http://www.hillcourt.com/

http://www.farrenwick.com/

Thanks a a lot man

Trampas wrote: »

You will get some funny looks when you are playing opens as they will think your a bandit.

Haha dont' worry about that, not good enough for anyone to think Im a bandit. Just cant afford membership anywhere and college...

clansman

so does anyone know how it works. I mean do u have to play 3 rounds with a full member. And do u have to play the 3 rounds with in a certain time? and so on..

Trampas

you have to play 3 competive rounds to get your handicap and you must play at least 3 rounds a year on your home course to allow play in opens

clansman

Trampas wrote: »

you have to play 3 competive rounds to get your handicap and you must play at least 3 rounds a year on your home course to allow play in opens

do you have play with a full member?

eunified61

got my handicap in slievenamon played three rounds +24 ,+22,+16 they gave me a handicap of 15 which turns out is pretty fair for me if I get to know a course I can shoot around par

eunified61

NuFlyer wrote: »

We are not blaming you directly, it's just as you have seen, some guys & gals out there are sooo unashamedly corrupt, they give the occasional bandit a bad name. And it's places like these small rural clubs who basically 'sell' handicaps that foster the Dick Turpins.
You are honest and up front and want a fair deal, but there are those out there who just want to skive, scrimp and steal their way in golf. Winning isn't everything, having one of the best rounds of your year is a great feeling.
There's too much emphasis on competition, especially for beginners. Just go play and enjoy the game.

this is a typical attitude of the bigger clubs it gives them someone to point the finger at while they ignore some stuff that goes on in their own clubs

slingerz

While I understand the term bandit and the idea that people protet their handicap to score better in competitions I have had it referred to me lately. I'm only in my second year of being a full memeber and am currently playing off 20.6 and I started out off 19.5 I have never been cut anything from my handicap and that is not for the want of trying most saturdays. However I recently won a golf classic and was called a bandit by a few people as a half jesting half serious way. This really pissed me off because I practice loads and things just went well for my team on the day.

Another thing that really p**ses me off is people giving out about teenagers winning prizes in competitions. Why cant a 16/17 year old win a singles or be part of a team event. I feel there is a lot of begrudgery with older players against young players because they have the chance to improve with their youth etc. A good friend of mine recently came 4th in a golf classic playing with 2 men and to say it wasnt a popular win was an understatement.