Flash question

AnimalRights

http://pix.ie/punkrock/594237/in/album/323689

http://pix.ie/punkrock/594027/in/album/323681

Are these 2 pictures caused by using an internal flash and not an external flash?
An external flash distributes the light more evenly?
Waiting for 430EX II to be released. (Not into the 580EX II as it would be bigger and heavier)

Ricky91t

AnimalRights wrote: »

http://pix.ie/punkrock/594237/in/album/323689

http://pix.ie/punkrock/594027/in/album/323681

Are these 2 pictures caused by using an internal flash and not an external flash?
An external flash distributes the light more evenly?
Waiting for 430EX II to be released. (Not into the 580EX II as it would be bigger and heavier)

whats the prob with them?The fact the background is dark?

Ricky91t

Might be a good idea to post in the thread...people will look more

AlanMooneyPhoto

Hi AnimalRights,
I think the problem youre referring to is actually caused by the flash being fired direct at the subject rather than bounced. It also doesnt look diffused enough.
It does look like its an external flash but its just mounted on the hotshoe rather than held off camera.

An external flash (I assume you mean flashgun) does distribute the light better, just in a wider arc, it still needs to be bounced and diffused.
Hope this is helpful,
Alan

AnimalRights

Indeed it does Alan, I know I'm learning when I'm basically answering my own questions.



/waits for 430Ex II to be delivered.

pete4130

Remember that shuuter speed won't affect the output of a flash in realtion to the subject. Apertures control how strong your flash will be at a constant distance/iso/output setting.

If you wanted the more ambient in the background then you'd need a longer shutter time.

Here's an (extreme) example of a shot at 1/15th or 1/20th I think with flashgun mounted on hotshoe and bounced off the ceiling and using a bounce card. Granted the ISO was 3200 as well I think and f5.6?

sprinkles

Sorry for asking a dumb question but what do you mean by bouncing the flash? I'm assuming you're pointing at the wall/ceiling rather than the subject??

Ricky91t

sprinkles wrote: »

Sorry for asking a dumb question but what do you mean by bouncing the flash? I'm assuming you're pointing at the wall/ceiling rather than the subject??

yep

AlanMooneyPhoto

Sprinkles, youre right, if you point a flash direct at someone it casts a nasty shadown directly behind them, as well as flattening the details of their face with the harsh flash light, so instead you use a wall or ceiling to bounce the flash off, this was its reflected behind the person lighting that area and ensuring there are no harsh shadows, you also light the subject, but the light is weaker and softer as its reflected so it looks much softer on the subject.
there are lots of good websites and tutorials about flash usage out there, well worth a look.

Ricky91t

AlanMooneyPhoto wrote: »

Sprinkles, youre right, if you point a flash direct at someone it casts a nasty shadown directly behind them, as well as flattening the details of their face with the harsh flash light, so instead you use a wall or ceiling to bounce the flash off, this was its reflected behind the person lighting that area and ensuring there are no harsh shadows, you also light the subject, but the light is weaker and softer as its reflected so it looks much softer on the subject.
there are lots of good websites and tutorials about flash usage out there, well worth a look.

buying a flash diffuser softens the light reducing these problems anyway

AlanMooneyPhoto

ricky91t wrote: »

buying a flash diffuser softens the light reducing these problems anyway

true, true, but if you still fire it direct at the subject you will still get shadows, just not as harsh.

Ricky91t

agreed but sometimes you cant bounce flash eg outdoor night photgraphy etc so i was just suggesting too sprinkles and animalrights for that matter, about that

sprinkles

Gonna have to read up on use of flash me thinks

Thanks for the insight though ricky&alan

CabanSail

sprinkles wrote: »

Gonna have to read up on use of flash me thinks

Thanks for the insight though ricky&alan

If your in Dublin then we have a talk on Flash Photography on the 22nd July.

sprinkles

CabanSail wrote: »

If your in Dublin then we have a talk on Flash Photography on the 22nd July.

Cool thanks, live just off Camden St so it'd be handy alright!

Saggitarius

My trick also with flash very easy to do picture where anybody looks like a ghost
Check it out!

AnimalRights

Are they Punk trousers she has on?

Saggitarius

AnimalRights wrote: »

Are they Punk trousers she has on?

Yep

AnimalRights

I'm a Punk, she should like the videos I have up on youtube and I've a fair few Punk picture sets up on Pix.
Check sig.
I'll be going to Rebellion fest in August ( Biggest Punk fest in the world) and will be taking both Vid and Camera.
http://www.rebellionfestivals.com/blackpool-2007-band-archive.html

You into Punk yourself and what bands are yas into?

Ricky91t

AnimalRights wrote: »

I'm a Punk, she should like the videos I have up on youtube and I've a fair few Punk picture sets up on Pix.
Check sig.
I'll be going to Rebellion fest in August ( Biggest Punk fest in the world) and will be taking both Vid and Camera.
http://www.rebellionfestivals.com/blackpool-2007-band-archive.html

You into Punk yourself and what bands are yas into?

the spreading of punk begins :eek:

Saggitarius

AnimalRights wrote: »

I'm a Punk, she should like the videos I have up on youtube and I've a fair few Punk picture sets up on Pix.
Check sig.
I'll be going to Rebellion fest in August ( Biggest Punk fest in the world) and will be taking both Vid and Camera.
http://www.rebellionfestivals.com/blackpool-2007-band-archive.html

You into Punk yourself and what bands are yas into?

She is my doughter! If I know right She likes this trousers and the rock music. These aren't same things I know.:cool:

sprinkles

Run Animal, before you become extinct

Saggitarius

sprinkles wrote: »

Run Animal, before you become extinct

:pac::pac::pac: then :D:D:D:D