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"Dog meat off the menu for Olympics"

  • 11-07-2008 12:24pm
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 801 ✭✭✭


    http://www.breakingnews.ie/sport/mhgbsncwqley/
    Canine cuisine is being sent to the doghouse during next month’s Beijing Olympic Games.

    Dog meat has been struck from the menus of officially designated Olympic restaurants and Beijing tourism officials are telling other outlets to discourage consumers from ordering dishes made from dogs, the official Xinhua News Agency reported today.

    Waiters and waitresses should “patiently” suggest other options to diners who order dog, it said, quoting city tourism bureau vice-director Xiong Yumei.

    Dog, known in Chinese as “xiangrou,” or “fragrant meat”, is eaten by some Chinese for its purported health-giving qualities.

    Beijing is not the first Olympic host to slap a ban on eating dog meat.

    South Korea banned dog meat during the 1988 Seoul Olympics by invoking a law prohibiting the sale of “foods deemed unsightly”. After the Olympics, the ban was not strictly enforced.

    Dog meat is also eaten in some other Asian countries, including Vietnam, the Philippines and Laos.

    I think this is pretty ridiculous. I mean if chinese people here started demanding dog meat in restaurants there would be uproar. Same for if muslims complain about christian religious symbols. But are we not just doing the same thing here (by 'we' i mean 'westerners')?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,766 ✭✭✭Reku


    ... there are a few Asian restaurants right beside pet stores in Dublin if you look... should we be suspicious?:p

    e.g. there's one in Phibsborough AFAIK.


    As to them banning it over there it is a bit daft, they could just warn visitors of what it's called and not to order it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 717 ✭✭✭Aspiration


    Dog meat is banned in HK too- just thought I'd add that.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,727 ✭✭✭✭Sherifu


    We're not doing anything. Who made the decision to ban it, i'm assuming the Chinese?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,094 ✭✭✭✭javaboy


    What's next? Are they going to stop systematically violating the human rights of their citizens too because it offends the westerners?

    If I go away somewhere as a tourist, I want the real experience.

    In France I want to see snails+frog's legs, in China I want dog meat on the menu.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,467 ✭✭✭Wazdakka


    Thats pretty Wruff...

    :D


    *Falls on sword*


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,432 ✭✭✭Steve_o


    Maybe they'll give it to you in a doggy bag....



    /I'll get me coat


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,449 ✭✭✭Call Me Jimmy


    Maybe they'll give what in a doggy bag?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,432 ✭✭✭Steve_o


    Maybe they'll give what in a doggy bag?

    Read the OP...:rolleyes:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,367 ✭✭✭Agamemnon


    Fucking political correctness - the world has gone to the dogs.





    /exits meekly


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 337 ✭✭'Ol Jack Chance


    tough sh*t tbh cos we all know its a dog eat dog world






    *dies*


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,031 ✭✭✭petethebrick


    I lived in Korea for a while. There were quite a few dog restaurants in my neighbourhood. There is some law or something that meant they couldn't advertise dog in english, prob. to avoid offending foreigners. Pretty nice when I tried it. I prefer chicken or beef etc tbh


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,094 ✭✭✭✭javaboy


    I lived in Korea for a while. There were quite a few dog restaurants in my neighbourhood. There is some law or something that meant they couldn't advertise dog in english, prob. to avoid offending foreigners. Pretty nice when I tried it. I prefer chicken or beef etc tbh

    Would be a lot easier for foreigners to avoid eating it if they did advertise in English.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4 Loafer


    Nature Boy wrote: »
    I think this is pretty ridiculous. I mean if chinese people here started demanding dog meat in restaurants there would be uproar. Same for if muslims complain about christian religious symbols. But are we not just doing the same thing here (by 'we' i mean 'westerners')?

    I'd say you can be pretty sure no "western" countries asked China to stop selling Dog meat. This is purely something that China decided to improve it's image to the outside world. Not that it will make any difference but then all governments can be pretty damn stupid.
    Maybe this way they think we won't mind that whole Tibet situation ;)


    Also hey all, it's my 1st post blah blah yachetee smacketee and I will be at the drinks tonight... I will be the one on my own, cradling my pint and refilling it with my alcohol flavoured tears.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,094 ✭✭✭✭javaboy


    Loafer wrote: »
    Also hey all, it's my 1st post blah blah yachetee smacketee and I will be at the drinks tonight... I will be the one on my own, cradling my pint and refilling it with my alcohol flavoured tears.

    I'm not going and I don't think anyone who is going knows me or what I look like so you have my permission to go and say you're javaboy. That will instantly get you in with the cool crowd. I'm very popular. Hope you're cool/handsome enough to pull it off.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 106 ✭✭who's yer one?


    dog meat's actually been declining in popularity anyway, it started during more famine-y times, and stuck, but now china's doing better as a country demand for puppy sandwiches is dwindling. might also be the rise in popularity of dogs as pets there. a dog is seen as sort of a staus symbol.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,295 ✭✭✭✭Duggy747


    Mmmmm, dog!

    http://blogs.mercurynews.com/vindu/wp-content/photos/Chinese_shrimp_market_after_2002_EU_ban.JPG

    If not cooked right it does tend to taste woof

    Ba-Dum-Bum....Tish!!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,816 ✭✭✭Calibos


    I have three dogs and as much as I love them and all dogs I do realise that a pig is as intelligent as a dog so I would be hypocritical to say its icky to eat an intelligent animal like a dog whereas its OK to eat a dopey cow.

    So I won't hold the taste for dog meat against the chinese. Its not the fact that they eat it that bugs me, its the fact that they apparently beat the ever loving sh1t out of it while its still alive because the fear hormones and adrenaline make the meat tastier and more tender.

    Now I also know that there are some sadistic and careless feckers working in slaughterhouses over here who might not ensure every cow or pig is killed humanely, quickly and painlessly but at least these would be more isolated incidences.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,493 ✭✭✭Fulton Crown


    Thanks to all the posters for this very interesting and informative thread...never realised what Dog meat was on the Chineese menu's and fear may have eaten some on recent visit...come to think of it the Restaurant was called "The Jack Lussell" ...never made the connection:eek:

    Must watch out for tendency to chase cars, cock leg while having a pee or trying to lick my marbles....Jeze.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 81,220 ✭✭✭✭biko


    Dog, the other white meat


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 747 ✭✭✭uglyjohn


    i'd eat it....i mean, why not? its just meat.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,031 ✭✭✭mumhaabu


    This thread brings back memories, when I was Secondary School I did Home Economics (male here) Classroom full of girls, (me and my friend took Home Ec. so we could hang out with the girls lol!:cool:).

    Anyway one day we discussing foods of other Nationalities, and I said how they eat dog meat in China, I was lampasted by the teacher and told it was not true and that I was being Racist!, the one Chinese student girl said they don't eat dog meat at all in China. (Can't blame her) I argued and got detention for a day or two. Government Education FTL.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,556 ✭✭✭Nolanger


    If they eat dog meat in China then we should use that as an excuse to boycott the Olympics because we haven't a hope of winning a medal.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,231 ✭✭✭Fad


    farohar wrote: »
    ... there are a few Asian restaurants right beside pet stores in Dublin if you look... should we be suspicious?:p

    e.g. there's one in Phibsborough AFAIK.

    What about the take away thats next door to a funeral home in blackrock (pretty decent food, mind you)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,031 ✭✭✭mumhaabu


    Nolanger wrote: »
    If they eat dog meat in China then we should use that as an excuse to boycott the Olympics because we haven't a hope of winning a medal.

    Pretty mature comment, :rolleyes: Sports and political or ethical beliefs should always be kept separate. Do we see Hindu countries boycotting Irish produce or sport because we eat beef or Islamic and Jewish countries because we eat and produce pork and bacon. A pig is intelligent as any dog yet we eat them.

    The Olympics are an international celebration of Sport and Cooperation, boycotting over the Chinese tradition of eating dogs. I don't like dogmat being on the menu but I believe that we have no right to be judgemental and should respect their wishes to eat what they wish. I'd be more concerned if the situation was different were forced to eat dogs from hunger and starvation as happened in Leningrad (St. Petersburg) during World War II.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,094 ✭✭✭✭javaboy


    mumhaabu wrote: »
    Pretty mature comment, :rolleyes: Sports and political or ethical beliefs should always be kept separate. Do we see Hindu countries boycotting Irish produce or sport because we eat beef or Islamic and Jewish countries because we eat and produce pork and bacon. A pig is intelligent as any dog yet we eat them.

    Maybe.. and I could be wrong on this now but is there possibly the slightest chance that he was only joking? No... probably not but just maybe.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,487 ✭✭✭boneless


    I'm not going to the 'lympics now....:P

    Actually, I ate dog meat in Korea. And deep fried starlings. They had the feathers on still...


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,493 ✭✭✭Fulton Crown


    boneless wrote: »
    I'm not going to the 'lympics now....:P

    Actually, I ate dog meat in Korea. And deep fried starlings. They had the feathers on still...

    The starlings...the starlings !!!! Quick !..how did they taste ??? Quick now ..flock of the bastids in my garden an I have the 12 bore loaded .....


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 43,045 ✭✭✭✭Nevyn


    This is nothing new the same thing happened when Korea had the olympics.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 16,165 ✭✭✭✭brianthebard


    Calibos wrote: »
    Its not the fact that they eat it that bugs me, its the fact that they apparently beat the ever loving sh1t out of it while its still alive because the fear hormones and adrenaline make the meat tastier and more tender.
    thats the exact opposite of what happens when an animal is scared before dying,the meat is crap.i doubt its different for dogs.where did you hear this?


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 171 ✭✭Laura Appleby


    Oh my god you guys this is like the saddest thing I have ever heard in my whole life. If anything ever happened my cheery and poppet I would be so depressed for like forever


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,493 ✭✭✭Fulton Crown


    mumhaabu wrote: »
    A pig is intelligent as any dog yet we eat them.

    No sir ....not the West Highland Terrier...officially the planets most intelligent dog and way ahead of the Vietnamese Pot Belly the most intelligent porker.

    A series of tests recently carried out involving acuity,spatial awareness,language a numeracy skills put the scotch dog way ahead.

    A key factor was the ability of Scotty to lick his n**ts a task which was beyond the ability of our Asian porcine friend.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 16,165 ✭✭✭✭brianthebard


    mumhaabu wrote: »
    Pretty mature comment, :rolleyes: Sports and political or ethical beliefs should always be kept separate. Do we see Hindu countries boycotting Irish produce or sport because we eat beef or Islamic and Jewish countries because we eat and produce pork and bacon.
    i would hope 'jewish countries'(wtf is there more than one?)wouldn't boycott us,since israel is a massive producer of pork products.wouldn't be their first hypocritical act though.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 171 ✭✭Laura Appleby


    Thanks to all the posters for this very interesting and informative thread...never realised what Dog meat was on the Chineese menu's and fear may have eaten some on recent visit...come to think of it the Restaurant was called "The Jack Lussell" ...never made the connection:eek:

    Must watch out for tendency to chase cars, cock leg while having a pee or trying to lick my marbles....Jeze.

    Thats borderline racist. You shouldn't make fun of peoples accents cos It was really nice of them to learn english in the first place don't you think?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,556 ✭✭✭Nolanger


    javaboy wrote: »
    Maybe.. and I could be wrong on this now but is there possibly the slightest chance that he was only joking? No... probably not but just maybe.

    I was - it's a waste of money sending a bunch of no-hopers to this year's Olympics. We need an excuse not to go and Chinese eating dog meat is just as good as any protest over Tibet.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,493 ✭✭✭Fulton Crown


    Thats borderline racist. You shouldn't make fun of peoples accents cos It was really nice of them to learn english in the first place don't you think?

    Not really..they learn English out of economic necessity..nice dosn't come into it...my little joke was based on their pronouciation not there their accent if you want to be pedantic...and it sounds as if you do hmmm ?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,967 ✭✭✭Pyr0


    Thats borderline racist. You shouldn't make fun of peoples accents cos It was really nice of them to learn english in the first place don't you think?

    Here we go... :rolleyes:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,200 ✭✭✭kensutz


    Thats borderline racist. You shouldn't make fun of peoples accents cos It was really nice of them to learn english in the first place don't you think?

    Get over it :rolleyes:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,110 ✭✭✭Thirdfox


    Not really..they learn English out of economic necessity..nice dosn't come into it...my little joke was based on their pronouciation not there their accent if you want to be pedantic...and it sounds as if you do hmmm ?

    Actually it's the Japanese who struggle with L and R (as in their language there is no difference, my Japanese roommate explained to me). But I have heard plenty "flied lice" jokes in my past so it's a common mistake I suppose.
    Thats borderline racist. You shouldn't make fun of peoples accents cos It was really nice of them to learn english in the first place don't you think?

    I am Chinese-Irish and don't really think it's that big a deal to poke fun of accents (we (as in the Irish) make fun of the German/French/Italian/British all the time). Humour should be a way of breaking down barriers...

    Although it is particularly funny when the joke is on them due to their lack of knowledge of the difference between a Chinese person and a Japanese person ;)

    But lighten up, it's just AH :)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,440 ✭✭✭GirlInterrupted


    i would hope 'jewish countries'(wtf is there more than one?)wouldn't boycott us,since israel is a massive producer of pork products.wouldn't be their first hypocritical act though.

    www.forward.com/articles/13245

    Link says you're wrong. It's not Kosher for Jews to eat or raise piggys.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,816 ✭✭✭Calibos


    No sir ....not the West Highland Terrier...officially the planets most intelligent dog and way ahead of the Vietnamese Pot Belly the most intelligent porker.

    A series of tests recently carried out involving acuity,spatial awareness,language a numeracy skills put the scotch dog way ahead.

    A key factor was the ability of Scotty to lick his n**ts a task which was beyond the ability of our Asian porcine friend.

    Guess what my 3 dogs are?? 2 Westies and 1 Shih-Tsu :D:D The Asian little madam has the 2 westie brothers bested in the intelligence stakes not to mention the top dog stakes.
    Thirdfox wrote: »

    .................Although it is particularly funny when the joke is one them due to their lack of knowledge of the difference between a Chinese person and a Japanese person ;)

    But lighten up, it's just AH :)

    I'll never understand how most people think I am some kind of genius when I point out that peron A. is actually Japanese or Person B is Chinese. "Loike OMG, how can you tell the difference." "Eh loike OMG, they sound totally different mate!" Jaysus, watch one or 2 Japanese films and one or 2 Chinese films and you realise how different they sound.

    Actually, speaking of accents, reminds of the time when this dope was chatting to myself another guy and a chinese customer. The other guy knew some chinese phrases which impressed the chinese guy and then the dope mouths some vaguely chinese sounding gibberish, thinking he is funny. "Jaysus it sounds like gibberish haha". So I told him to say "Who'd ya nick the car off?". Say it fast and listen to the sound. Sounds like Klingon. I said "Mate, thats what we sound like to him (chinese guy)" Gibberish isn't it!! That shut him up.


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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,493 ✭✭✭Fulton Crown


    Calibos wrote: »
    Guess what my 3 dogs are?? 2 Westies and 1 Shih-Tsu :D:D The Asian little madam has the 2 westie brothers bested in the intelligence stakes not to mention the top dog stakes.

    Well Holy God !! Is'nt that the quare one.....2 westie brothers bested...are you sure their real Westies ??

    Freekin hell...in the survey the Shi-Tsu dogs fared particularly badly and...uh were ..well ..regarded as the least intelligent breeds.

    Holy God !!


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,493 ✭✭✭Fulton Crown


    Them Shi Tsu are they Chineese or Japanese doggies .??


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,981 ✭✭✭monosharp


    Dog is delicious, eaten it 5 times in Korea. Bloody expensive though.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,230 ✭✭✭✭ejmaztec


    monosharp wrote: »
    Dog is delicious, eaten it 5 times in Korea. Bloody expensive though.

    I've been told it's the dog's bollocks.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,493 ✭✭✭Fulton Crown


    The Red Setter and Cress sarni from their local Centra's is quite a tasty meal I find ..:p


  • Hosted Moderators Posts: 7,486 ✭✭✭Red Alert


    They've probably started selling cat meat instead.


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