MAYO'S LARGEST POKER TOURNAMENT

TF POKER

TF POKER TOURNAMENT
CASTLEBAR
REG 8.30 START 9.00
STARTS 11TH JULY (EVERY FRIDAY)
BUY-IN €20

POKER TABLES AND CASINO QUALITY CHIPS AND CARDS USED


1. Who is running the event . TF ROYAL HOTEL
2. The purpose of the event . COMMERICAL
3. Date and Location of event 11 OF JULY TF ROYAL HOTEL (EVERY FRIDAY)
4. Registration and Start time of event. REG 8.30 START 9
5. Any prerequisiteS. . NONE
6. How can tickets be purchased & is there a maximum number . NO TICKETS PURCHASED IN ADVANCED , UP TO 100 PLAYERS
7. Type of Tournament . Hold'eM
8. Cost of entry and any subsequent rebuys/top-ups . 20 BUY IN
9. Cost of registration . NONE
10. % of entry fee/rebuys/top-up going into Prize fund. 100%
11. Any guarenteed prize pool. NO
12. If applicable, Number of re-buys allowed and over what time frame/blind levels. NO REBUYS AFTER 1 HOUR
13. starting stack is 6,000
14. re buy is 6,000
15. Blind levels . 25-50, 50-100, 150-300, 200-400, break, 300-600, 400-800, 600-1200, 1500-3000, 3000-6000, 4000-8000, 6000-12000, 8000-16000
16. Blind timeframes EVERY 20 MINUTES
17. Places being paid and if any prizes are other than cash (free entry to other tournie, merchandice etc) LAST 6 GET PAID , AND FINISHER 7,8 FREE NEXT WEEK
18. Are there going to be dealers - and their level of skill. DEALER ONLY FOR FINAL TABLE
19. Will there be a documented list of rules. YES
20. Is there a tournament director. YES
21. How are disputes handled - who has final say. TF DIRECTOR HAS FINAL SAY

Coillte_Bhoy

15. Blind levels . 25-50, 50-100, 100-200, 250-400, 400-800, 1000-1500

wtf? i think you need to have alook at this structure again mate. Never seen anything like it. I dont know who advised you on this but its bizzarre. Also you would want to decide what the reg fee/payout is before hand. Anyway best of luck with it. Feel free to pm me if you wish

DK86

Takin the piss imo

Fatboydim

I can now make an informed decision that I will not be going to this.

Several issues.

1st

10. % of entry fee/rebuys/top-up going into Prize fund. UNDECIDED

Surely it's 100% prizepool or at least decide what you wish to retain for costs IE: 10% withheld for costs. [ Which I think is maximum for non dealer dealt tourney]

Structure and starting stack is woeful. And deciding how many should be paid is bonkers. If you get your planned 100 then at least nine players should be paid.

The TF is a great venue - but it's not going to get players if it's badly organised like this. I or I'm sure muscles would be happy to give you some advice - But quite frankly there are much better organised tourney's in Mayo than this.

KevIRL

TF POKER wrote: »

10. % of entry fee/rebuys/top-up going into Prize fund. UNDECIDED

Hi TF Poker

Please give a definite answer to this question by tomorrow (Sunday) or this thread gets deleted.

CHD

this looks like great craic

Four of a kind

Santa Nelly!!!!

mcaul

KevIRL wrote: »

Hi TF Poker

Please give a definite answer to this question by tomorrow (Sunday) or this thread gets deleted.

I know from talking to him that 100% of entry is in the prize pool - no reg being taken.

Nothing being taken for costs as hotel is running it themselves.

petethebrick

I'm glad I don't live in Mayo if this is typical of the type of tournies that are running there.....seriously where did you come up with that structure?

Coillte_Bhoy

petethebrick wrote: »

I'm glad I don't live in Mayo if this is typical of the type of tournies that are running there.....seriously where did you come up with that structure?

I can assure you that this is not typical of tourneys in Mayo. Every new organiser starting out will take a while to get things right, but i agree the structure is a bit strange to say the least.:rolleyes:

F@ces

Please rename this thread to MAYO'S LARGEST CRAPSHOOT TOURNAMENT.

Well done the TF. Along with the marquee it's another stroke of genius. No wonder so many people in this town avoid the place. Muppets.

TF POKER

sorry this page was posted in 5 minutes
100% of the pot will be paid out, rebuy (8000 not 2000)
the blind structure is wrong and will be changed
any other advice will be grateful
thanks

TF POKER

sorry the structure is wrong and will be changed

urbhoy

DRIVE TO MAYO FOR A 20 REBUY AWAY AND **** URESELFS

busbybhoy

Mayos biggest tourney a €20 rebuy??? I played a €50 last week in Kiltimagh....Surely 50 is bigger than 20??

Goodluck2me

Give the guy a break FFS, no reg tournaments, what more do you want?

A good structure would be 25/50, 50/100, 75/150, 100/200, 150/300, 200/400, 300/600, 500/1K, (800/1500 not necessary for 20FO if you need to speed it up), 1K/2K and so on.
the important thing is that there is play at the start, and perhaps have the rebuy periods a little longer blind levels than the Freezeout.
For example have the first three levels 25 mins and the rest 20 mins. thats acceptable.
Its a 20€ game so the structure doenst have to be unbelieveable, but try to give as much play as you can.

F@ces

I don't think it's unfair to criticise this tournament post, particularly since I cannot remember such a daft structure / set up in a very long time. But anywho, I'll be more constructive

First of all, don't post it (shouting - i.e. in caps) as MAYO'S LARGEST POKER TOURNAMENT. It is not! A €20 game is affordable and a good idea, but it is not the largest, either by prospective prize pool, or indeed won't be by numbers (if you don't amend the structure).

You said "sorry this page was posted in 5 minutes". If you can't take the time to a). sit down (perhaps consulting poker players) and devise the tournament and b). take the time to properly post / advertise it, how is anyone supposed to believe this is going to be a well run tourney?

It's 100% prizepool, fair enough that's clarified. But what about the structure? You said it's wrong, and have changed level 3 (for example) from 100/200 to 150/300 (and subsequent blinds) while increasing the buyin chip stack to 8000. Then the rebuys are for 2000 chip amount? 40 minutes into the tournament a rebuy will get you less than 7 big blinds. And stacks will be big comparatively, so why would anyone possibly want to rebuy? This tournament is somewhere between a deep stack freezout and a cheap multi rebuy.

As goodlucktome said it's all about giving play early on. To be honest your best trying to get this thread removed, take some time to plan your event (for example trawl through this forum and get ideas or even "borrow" similar structures from other tournament organisers), and then post it up.

Who is the tournament director? Since you seem to know little about the game (it showing in this thread), and you wish to put on these tournaments to help boost business, it would be advisable to learn about the game, or hire someone who does. A TD's job is very difficult especially given some rules have slightly different interpretations, so a strong, well informed TD is rather important.

I know it's "just" a €20 tourney, but if you want a regular crowd on a Friday nite, this will only happen if regular poker players attend. All this will attract is casual players. And they will probably only come once every now and then.

In fairness, good luck to you. Unfortunately you may realise there is a lot more work in this type of thing.

winstons pt

We are all so great at putting a turney together, as goodlucktome says, “give the guy a break”.
This is there first poker tournament (i remember mine, disaster:o) and things will go wrong from the start, it takes time to build up a good poker night, the first thing is to have a good venue, and they have a great one by the looks of it. Given time id say that this will become a common Friday night poker spot, so i wouldn't be so quick on running them down.
I myself am going to make the trip down (with my own tables,chips,etc,etc) and give them all the help they need in organizing, lay out, blinds schedule, etc, etc, i will even do tournament director, if they want, im also going to add in some goody prizes, so i know it will turn out to be a great night.
So please, instead of putting them down, give them advice.
Good luck to them:).
Regards......Paddy @ Winstons Poker

BIG-SLICK-POKER

Give this some credit lads hes providing a night out for people , If u dont want to go dont just let the man do his Job .. Structures and Reg fees in a €20 game now if u are that tight thats just wrong i would happily pay €20+€5 for a game anywhere and teh Blind structure or stack i would just get on with ..

The idea of Writing Mayos Biggest Poker game is fine makes u click it ... I like that idea who knows it mite be if he gets the biggest runners ?

Best of Luck with this bud
(Bad Advertisin is good as it gets ur thread going )
Regards

Neill
Big Slick Poker

F@ces

I'd just like to say, and I hope TF POKER doesn't mind, that I was pm'd with clarification of some points and thanked for some ideas I made. In many ways this was unneccesary given my first post, so it was very kind and highly professional. Very much appreciated, and I'd like to apologise for some of the unconstructive criticisms made. My previous post is I hope more helpful.

My original comments regarding the structure etc do still stand. While I understand the previous comments, I don't think anyone should encourage what (unfortunately originally) looked like a structure that wasn't thought about. I also would not at all agree with the statement that bad advertising is good. In this case, there would be many who would have possibly read the original post, not thought much of it, and never looked at the thread again. However, despite this, it has gotten much interest because of the criticisms, and so hopefully (and genuinely meant) will be beneficial for the TF and the tournament organisers.

If everyone had replied and said "yeah great, woopee a new tourney" then all we'd end up with would probably be a crapshoot. Criticism (when constructive) should be taken positively, and hopefully now help the TF understand the requirements for a well run, well structured tournament.

Finally, I'd like to thank TF POKER again for being thoughful with the pm, and also for attempting to increase the number of tournaments in Mayo. A genuine heartfelt best of luck, and I will hopefully check it out soon

GG WP :cool:

petethebrick

BIG-SLICK-POKER wrote: »

If u dont want to go dont just let the man do his Job .. Structures and Reg fees in a €20 game now if u are that tight thats just wrong i would happily pay €20+€5 for a game anywhere and teh Blind structure or stack i would just get on with ..

In fairness I think it's better to offer constructive criticism rather than simply 'let the man do his job'. Regardless of the small buy-in a better structured tournament will be both better fun and more likely to influence players to return.
If you'd be happy enough paying that for a game with a blind structure that someone has just pulled out of their head that's fair enough, not me tbh^^

Good luck with this anyhow.

KevIRL

Edited OP to change stack + rebuy amounts at TF Poker's request...

Fatboydim

That's looking like a nice little tourney now.

Fatboydim

Just a quick report on this. I wasn't able to get to CHL's last night due to work - so checked this out instead. A few teething problems but a good turn out of 53 players. The structure they went with on the night was too fast but will be corrected for next week. Also I think they're going to make it 1 rebuy and one top up [or 2 rebuy no top up]

The venue is great and winstons pt did an excellent job getting the first tournament at the TF underway. I'm confident that the TF will develop things in the right way and that this will become a good venue for poker in Mayo.

With other developments in the pipeline [that I can't talk about yet] I think poker players in Mayo have a lot to look forward to.

PJA

Is this a regular thing now every friday? will be in Mayo later this summer and will have to pop in if so!

Fatboydim

That's the plan. There's also other plans in the offing that hopefully wil mean that Mayo gets a few more venues and tournaments.

express79

53 was avery good turnout for the first night. Hope to make it down to this tourney sometime soon.

winstons pt

A bigger number of players is looking good for this Friday (18/7/08)

(This is from a another thread)

OK, first order of business was find out the Boardies to buy them a drink, and i met Len “fatboydim” the nicest man you could ever meet, also went down to promote the Ladbrokes Killarney Fest and gave out lots of goodie's, the response was positive with lots of players looking forward to October (including myself)
So heres how it went, the venue is great with plenty of room and drinks staff on hand, and they put up a good spread of food at the break. They have put some costs into starting a poker night so they might have to go with a reg from now on, its not much, €20 buy in with €2 reg which is still good value and i don't think players would mind paying a €2 reg if its good poker night.
The structure we went with was a bit to fast, but i have advised them on a blind schedule that might go better, it will have more play segments at the start and in the middle, which will see a lot more game play, this dos not say it will turn into a crap shoot near the end, i have told the TF that if this happens, to pause the clock, or replay a level.
The “unlimited re buys up to the break” was a bit mad, and ended up with a lot of chips on the tables near the end of the tournament, so this is going to be changed to 2 re buys, or 1 re buy and 1 top up, so with this in mind and the new blind schedule i have no doubt that this is going to be a good regular poker night in Castlebar (Mayo).
I had a meeting with them on the Saturday to talk about the tournament and gave them some good ideas like, loyalty bonus, league games, added prizes, etc, etc, (and a satellite for Killarney).
There is not many poker tournaments in Mayo, that has some excellent poker players so i know they will do things right like 100% pay out, everything transparent, and so on.

I wish them well for the future and i hope to see them again soon.

Many thanks to Pat Jennings at the TF for his hospitality.

PS: This Poker Tournament will get better and better as time gos on.

winstons pt

Dont forget Mayo boys and gals, the TF is on again this Friday, with 53 runners last time im sure it will be bigger this week, looks like im going down again to make sure all gos ok, so see you there:D

Coillte_Bhoy

Might try and make this tonight as venue for our Friday night game has closed down.:mad: Realistically what time expected to start???

winstons pt

Coillte_Bhoy wrote: »

Might try and make this tonight as venue for our Friday night game has closed down.:mad: Realistically what time expected to start???

9 pm is the start time, last week got going 9.10pm, so not to bad

Fatboydim

I'll be there Muscles so you're guaranteed dead money.

Coillte_Bhoy

Fatboydim wrote: »

I'll be there Muscles so you're guaranteed dead money.

Well somebody is anyway even if not me.:D Think i have a venue sorted for tonight so prob wont make it.

Fatboydim

Another reasonable turnout. Circa 50 again.

Better structure but still a little fast. I'd make the break earlier or put in more early levels as the add on is less than 10bb for the restart.

Winston PT did a sterling job once more, despite a few minor problems. I hope people will support this as it's a good night.

I played well untill the break and then donked my chips off LOL

Coillte_Bhoy

Went along for a look and was pleasantly surprised. I thought the structure was fine but omitted 75/150 and 700/1500 levels. Stating stack of 6k, 2 rebuys 6k each for €20each or i rebuy + i add on 8k. Heard last week was crazy with the multi rebuys but most seemed happier last night with the 2 rebuy max. Winston did a fine job and the one time he had problems seemed to handle sternly and swiftly which is what the other players always want.

A coule of minor gripes: the quality of the cards...absolutely **** in all fairness and impossible to shuffle properly. Decent plastic cards i.e. copaq, arent that expensive and in the long run work out cheaper as you will keep having to replace these.

Starting stack - Didnt have enough 25 or 100 chips to start with and table constantly held up while players sorted change etc. Suggestion for starting stack - 8x25, 8x100, 4x500, 3x1k

Anyway good night overall and they are only starting off so best of luck to all concerned.