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Auto-locking old threads?

  • 04-07-2008 1:29pm
    #1
    Closed Accounts Posts: 9,438 ✭✭✭


    I've seen a couple of other forums where threads that have had no replies in a set time e.g. a month or whatever, are automatically closed.

    Seeing as mods in certain forums on here, AH and Motors to name but two in particular, take umbrage to old threads being resurrected and usually close the thread even if the new post is on-topic, any thoughts on having a similar thing on boards if it's in the software?

    Save the mods some work and all that :)
    Post edited by Shield on


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,831 ✭✭✭Slow Motion


    But then how would we leave happy new years messages in tuppenceworth?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,727 ✭✭✭✭Sherifu


    I dragged up an old thread this morning from 3 months ago so no I don't agree with your proposal.


  • Business & Finance Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 32,387 Mod ✭✭✭✭DeVore


    It would need to be a decent length of time. At least 6 months and more likely a year. I'm not sure about this at all but it has occured to me before and I kinda flip-flop back and forth :)

    DeV.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,152 ✭✭✭ozt9vdujny3srf


    personally I dont see the problem in old threads being brought back up if the post dragging it up is relevant.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 43,045 ✭✭✭✭Nevyn


    A year would be good.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,309 ✭✭✭✭Bard


    18 months or two years might be better. I'd imagine there's one or two valid reasons why someone would re-post to a thread exactly one year later.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,407 ✭✭✭✭justsomebloke


    Bard wrote: »
    I'd imagine there's one or two valid reasons why someone would re-post to a thread exactly one year later.

    Or even 9 months. Which will give us 8 months a 3 weeks untill someone digs up the boards beer thread from last week


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,584 ✭✭✭✭Steve


    Bad idea.

    Sometimes the content is still relevant, sometimes it's not.
    It takes a human (or close approximation in some cases) to decide.


  • Subscribers Posts: 19,425 ✭✭✭✭Oryx


    I dont mind when old threads get bumped, you can see the date on them. If the subject is relevant why not?

    I often see people referred to old threads on a particular subject when they start a new thread, if old ones were locked it would prevent old, interesting info being added to.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,983 ✭✭✭leninbenjamin


    hmmmm... not really sure how much work this would involve. but how about forcing a moderator approval when a thread has gone past a certain date? i.e. like posting unregged in personal issues it has to be approved by a mod first. that would be one way of filtering out some of the stupid revival spam that can occur, yet leave everything open for on topic submissions.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,061 ✭✭✭✭Terry


    SteveC wrote: »
    Bad idea.

    Sometimes the content is still relevant, sometimes it's not.
    It takes a human (or close approximation in some cases) to decide.
    That's just it.

    If someone bumps an old thread for a really pointless reason, it will be locked.

    If they add something new to it, then it will most likely be left as is.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 14,277 ✭✭✭✭Rb


    I agree with Truckle, 18 months to 2 years would be best.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 37,316 ✭✭✭✭the_syco


    Good idea, but not for the Games section, as many Games forums go quite for a while, and suddenly a patch comes out, and everyone brings up old threads, replies to old threads, etc.

    An example would be replying to this thread.

    Another example would be the Work & Jobs fourms. Old thread are always vamped there, from people asking about did X job advertised 2 years ago work out, instead of starting a new thread about an old topic.

    Politics isn't too bad, and only minor vamping occurs there.


  • Posts: 16,720 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    personally I dont see the problem in old threads being brought back up if the post dragging it up is relevant.

    Agreed.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,094 ✭✭✭✭javaboy


    I'd say about 3 and a half years minimum. There are plenty of cases where a thread that has been dormant for more than 3 years can be legitimately resurrected. One example off the top of my head is if someone in the Animals and Pets forum announces their pet Alpine Salamander is pregnant and the other posters say congratulations and let us know when it gives birth. They have a 38 month pregnancy. Didn't think of the Alpine Salamander of Southern Europe when you came up with your far right oppressive thread locking madnees did you OP?


  • Moderators, Education Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 35,125 Mod ✭✭✭✭AlmightyCushion


    What happens if someone on the parenting forum tells us about their wonderful new child? Later on they may want to update the thread and tell us about the child's 18th or 21st birthday. What happens then???????? It should be at least 30 years.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,297 ✭✭✭Ron DMC


    I'd stick with 65 or more to be honest. What if the kid involved wants to sign up to invite people who cared about their birth to their wedding/ 50th/ retirement party.


  • Moderators, Education Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 35,125 Mod ✭✭✭✭AlmightyCushion


    Maybe 100+ would be the best way to go. Those kids could live to be over 100 and someone close to them decides to update the thread to let others who cared about the birth know about their death.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,297 ✭✭✭Ron DMC


    Maybe 100+ would be the best way to go. Those kids could live to be over 100 and someone close to them decides to update the thread to let others who cared about the birth know about their death.
    +1


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 318 ✭✭Simplicity


    911 threads.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 16,713 ✭✭✭✭jor el


    Maybe we should let this thread go, then come back to it in 12-18 months time and see if we think it's still relevant.

    Overall, I don't think it's a big problem to just lock a thread that's being dragged up, if that's the right course. If the new post is only vaguely related, it can also be split out into a new thread, letting the old one disappear back into the abyss. I've done this a few times.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,099 ✭✭✭✭WhiteWashMan


    i dont agree with old threads being locked if the post is useful or inciteful or whatever.
    those who add +1 and drag up old threads should be locked.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,094 ✭✭✭✭javaboy


    i dont agree with old threads being locked if the post is useful or inciteful or whatever.
    those who add +1 and drag up old threads should be locked.

    Let's drag up the Roma gypsies thread in AH and make some inciteful comments! ;):D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,099 ✭✭✭✭WhiteWashMan


    now theres a slip of the tongue :)

    insightful even :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 86,729 ✭✭✭✭Overheal


    SteveC wrote: »
    Bad idea.

    Sometimes the content is still relevant, sometimes it's not.
    It takes a human (or close approximation in some cases) to decide.

    Make it customizable per forum: let it be up to the fora mods to arbitrate. they can set it to 0 so they never lock, should they decide.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,099 ✭✭✭✭WhiteWashMan


    these mods are getting too much power these days.

    i say we have to take the power back!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 78,580 ✭✭✭✭Victor


    hmmmm... not really sure how much work this would involve. but how about forcing a moderator approval when a thread has gone past a certain date? i.e. like posting unregged in personal issues it has to be approved by a mod first. that would be one way of filtering out some of the stupid revival spam that can occur, yet leave everything open for on topic submissions.
    There was an example of this recently where someone posted anonymously (vBulletin Moderation Panel doesn't tell mods how old a thread is) on a "I might be pregnant" thread from about 5 years ago and dragging it up does much more harm than good.

    On the other side, on Commuting & Transport or Humanities, it might be perfectably acceptable to continue an old thread, rather than rehash a whole topic, because it discusses the same subject.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 66,122 ✭✭✭✭unkel
    Chauffe, Marcel, chauffe!


    personally I dont see the problem in old threads being brought back up if the post dragging it up is relevant.

    Agreed. Although from my experience I find that the vast majority of resurrections are bogus. They are wasting many peoples time reading the thread until they realise it was a resurrection. Then reporting the post, alerting all the moderators, who will then have to go out and delete the post / lock the thread or both

    An automatic lock (say after a set period of 3 months) would save a lot of time wasting for users and moderators alike

    And if someone feels they have a relevant post to make to a thread already locked, the only thing they need to do is PM a moderator to re-open the thread!


  • Posts: 16,720 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    unkel wrote: »
    And if someone feels they have a relevant post to make to a thread already locked, the only thing they need to do is PM a moderator to re-open the thread!

    After they accuse of all moderators of being nazis for locking every topic after a certain timeframe of course.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 66,122 ✭✭✭✭unkel
    Chauffe, Marcel, chauffe!


    Myth wrote: »
    After they accuse of all moderators of being nazis for locking every topic after a certain timeframe of course.

    Not sure what you're on about there about Nazis :confused:

    A statement about locking threads automatically could easily be part of the T&C box a user has to tick when signing up to boards.ie


  • Posts: 16,720 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    unkel wrote: »
    Not sure what you're on about there about Nazis :confused:

    A statement about locking threads automatically could easily be part of the T&C box a user has to tick when signing up to boards.ie

    If a new user comes along and just sees lots of locked threads I'd guess there'd be a fair few feedback threads querying why the threads were locked, and from this calling the Mods nazis.

    Plus I take the Drunkth Amendment following last night.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,794 ✭✭✭Worztron


    What is the time limit (if any) between the last post on a thread and making a new post?

    Mitch Hedberg: "Rice is great if you're really hungry and want to eat two thousand of something."



  • Moderators, Arts Moderators Posts: 35,731 Mod ✭✭✭✭pickarooney


    Two years, nine months and twelve days, give or take.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 15,914 ✭✭✭✭tbh


    Well played sir.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,794 ✭✭✭Worztron


    Two years, nine months and twelve days, give or take.

    Very funny. But seriously, what is the time limit (if any)?

    Mitch Hedberg: "Rice is great if you're really hungry and want to eat two thousand of something."



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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,840 ✭✭✭Dav


    There's no hard and fast rule really. If the thread's still relevant, then digging it up shouldn't pose any significant issue, but for some forums that's seen as a no-no. Best bet, send a PM to the mods of the forum and ask if they think there's any problem bumping it back up.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,794 ✭✭✭Worztron


    Dav wrote: »
    There's no hard and fast rule really. If the thread's still relevant, then digging it up shouldn't pose any significant issue, but for some forums that's seen as a no-no. Best bet, send a PM to the mods of the forum and ask if they think there's any problem bumping it back up.

    Thank you Dav. Finally someone has given me an informative answer. :)

    How would I know the mod of a particular forum?

    Mitch Hedberg: "Rice is great if you're really hungry and want to eat two thousand of something."



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 81,220 ✭✭✭✭biko


    At the bottom of each forum page is a list of the mods of that particular forum.

    You can also look under their username when you come across them around the site.










    <----


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,794 ✭✭✭Worztron


    biko wrote: »
    At the bottom of each forum page is a list of the mods of that particular forum.

    Ah, I see now. Thank you biko (I love that signature pic).

    Do I contact Forum Mods or Category Mods? Or will either do?

    Mitch Hedberg: "Rice is great if you're really hungry and want to eat two thousand of something."



  • Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 30,972 Mod ✭✭✭✭Insect Overlord


    Worztron wrote: »
    Ah, I see now. Thank you biko (I love that signature pic).

    Do I contact Forum Mods or Category Mods? Or will either do?

    Forum Mods are usually the first port of call. :)


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  • Moderators, Education Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 35,125 Mod ✭✭✭✭AlmightyCushion


    Worztron wrote: »
    Ah, I see now. Thank you biko (I love that signature pic).

    Do I contact Forum Mods or Category Mods? Or will either do?

    Best to contact forum mods. If you contact a category mods, they'll more than likely either refer you to the forum mods or consult with the forum mods themselves so it'll just take longer.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,584 ✭✭✭✭Steve


    Best to contact forum mods. If you contact a category mods, they'll more than likely either refer you to the forum mods or consult with the forum mods themselves so it'll just take longer.
    Translates:
    Cmods are lazy feckers and don't like being woken up too often with trivial stuff.. :D:D:D


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 15,914 ✭✭✭✭tbh


    Steve wrote: »
    Translates:
    Cmods are lazy feckers and don't like being woken up too often with trivial stuff.. :D:D:D

    more like: thou shalt not step on the (real) mods toes!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,584 ✭✭✭✭Steve


    "Real" is subjective :D

    /Gets coat...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,339 ✭✭✭✭LoLth


    Forum mods preferrably but give them time to respond, mods arent constantly online!


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