Hessian , what are ya doing lad

dav12345

FIRST OFF, I like hessian and know only giving honest opinion and
putting himself out there.
BUT he should'nt waist his breath talking about the sub 10 white guy thing or of harboured to the views of the ****ing idiots of producers of this programme ,irish olympians on rte 2.

And things like top 10 white sprinters ,only leave me doubting his own mentality ,race should'nt be a factor, (something invented by society),
instead only winning should be.

He is only excentuating this sub 10 barrier thing by taking about it and
producers are by there genetics smetics views. Instead he should be simply stating that if white guy finally becomes one of top sprinters in 100m after over 2 decades then sub 10 is not an issue as need to be sprinting that to be at the top.

And if Hessian spends less time talking about it and more time concentrating on his speed work then might get closer. Even though I know he is a 200m specialist and relies more on speed endurance side of things ,never the less.

As for these scientist dopes on this programme ,it only takes one example to prove them wrong .
and where to i start , Pietro Minnea , Allan Wells , Valery Borzov ,
Marian Woronin , Kederis , and off course hessian.

kmart6

Actually if you actually pais attention to that program there was scientists who were able to back up the fact that race is a factor! Africans have a stronger bone density and quicker reflex muscles(can't remember the correct term) which allow for them to be better runners! Wetern Africans are the sprinting kind and the eastern Africans are long distance runners!

Pherekydes

Wail. Couldn't you have spelled his name right at least once?

Genetics does play a part, even for "white" sprinters. People make too much of an athlete's skin colour. Peel off the skin and inside one world class sprinter is exactly the same as another.

shels4ever

I could be wrong but is it not ture that there is a different amount of slow twitch and fast twitch muscle fiber in Black perople compared to white?

I remember watching a program before and it this was the main reason that they put forward. They did some analysis of East african's and West africa and came up with this.

Racing Flat

dav12345 wrote: »

And if Hessian spends less time talking about it and more time concentrating on his speed work then might get closer.

A bit of respect wouldn't go amiss.

I'm fairly sure he does enough speed work, does all the appropriate training, dietm lifestyle etc. and 'talking about it' is lower down in the list of priorities. But as there are 24 hours in a day, and it's not wise to overtrain, spending a bit of time talking about it isn't all bad.

thirtyfoot

If you knew of the Hesh you wouldn't doubt his mentality. Known among Irish athletes as probably the most focused, driven and clued in of all Irish athletes (possibly ever?). If races were won 100% in the head, Hesh would be an Olympic champion. Mister Positivity, he has roomed with David Gillick on both times Gillick has won Euro Indoors and some would say its a small factor why Gillick went out and ran so well. Hesh is grounded and realistic.

Love the comment on him concentrating more on his speed, maybe you should pass this on as I reckon he or Stuart Hogg haven't thought of that, could be the missing link:cool:

High&Low

dav12345 wrote: »

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As for these scientist dopes on this programme ,it only takes one example to prove them wrong .
and where to i start , Pietro Minnea , Allan Wells , Valery Borzov ,
Marian Woronin , Kederis , and off course hessian.

Wells, Borzov, Minnea, Woronin all competed 30 years ago, Armin Hary (possible the greatest white sprinter) 50 years ago. You name one athlete, Kederis, who has been successful in recent history and there are doubts over him... The only other two white sprinters who were in some way succesful in recent time were Matt Shirvington and Marcin Urbas (who ran a very dubious 19.98 in the semi finals at the WC in 1999).

This handful of "white" athletes are the exception to the rule and even then are still not that fast... For this handful of white athletes there have been hundreds of athletes descended from West Africa that have been significantly better and thousands more that play professional sports such as american football and baseball and never bothered to compete on the track.

TheRoadRunner

I actually really enjoyed that RTE program.

I was going to start a thread on it yesterday. I thought it was great the way it highlighted our athletes current standing in the world of athletics and showed we probably have the strongest track and field team Ireland has ever assembled.

This has to be spelled out to the ordinary man on the street who thinks our athletes are under performing. We have 8/9 athletes hovering around the top 10 in their events. Our soccer team is currently rated as 41 st best in the world !

The comments regarding hessian a.k.a Hession are absurd. Don't know the guy but I thought he talked complete sense. Breaking 10 seconds probably isn't the be and end all but he'll have to do it if he wants to make major championship finals.

geoff29

Tingle wrote: »

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Love the comment on him concentrating more on his speed, maybe you should pass this on as I reckon he or Stuart Hogg haven't thought of that, could be the missing link:cool:

lol

In fairness I didn't see the programme, and in defense of the original poster - I absolutely detest whiners. Was he whining?!

But I think race certainly does come into play for the reasons already discussed. How can it not? Go to Holland and you will meet some of the tallest women in the world. Tell me they couldn't form a geat netball/volleyball team! In that case, the advantage that they have is height as opposed to different muscle fibres etc. The only difference being that their advantage is visible to the human eye?

thirtyfoot

geoff29 wrote: »

Was he whining?!

No.

Big Ears

shels4ever wrote: »

I could be wrong but is it not ture that there is a different amount of slow twitch and fast twitch muscle fiber in Black perople compared to white?

I remember watching a program before and it this was the main reason that they put forward. They did some analysis of East african's and West africa and came up with this.

West Africans(and those of West African origin) on average have the highest muscle content and lowest fat content on earth, combined with them tending to have a higher amount of fast twitch muscle fibres than other races is the reason for sprinting(patriculary the 100 metres) being dominated by those of West African origin .

If the original poster wants to believe that genetics are 'mumbo jumbo' then that is fine, but it is wrong . Guys like Hession work every bit as hard as those ahead of him but he just wasn't born with the natural ability to be better than those others athletes .

Now this isn't going to stop Paul from being the best he can be, and at 200 metres he can be a very succesful athlete if he can keep improving .