Wood

Doctor J

This or This.



Discuss :pac:

koolkakool

Doctor J wrote: »

This or This.



Discuss :pac:

i watched the video, its interesting. but what's with the worms???:)

Voodu Child

Wood is wood. Different woods have different densities, and vibrate differently and all that, and you can hear that to an extent in an instrument...but do I care? No.

You listen to some of the crap that comes out of guys like Paul Reed Smith (i'll get a few quotes if I have a chance)...and its just such rubbish, he can't even believe it himself.

Give me a well-made instrument, that looks nice, plays nice and sounds nice, and i'll be happy. I genuinely don't think there's going to be a huge tone difference between alder and mahogany (in the same guitar, with same pickups etc) - sure, I could hear some difference, but its not going to lose me any sleep. At the end of the day, you've got the construction method, bridge type, pickups, finish, cable, effects, amp, speakers... Do you really think slapping in some rare or exotic wood into your PRS is going to make a BIG difference ? :rolleyes:

But im not saying instruments should be made from crap. Quality, stable woods, with a weight or character that suits the instrument...that should be enough to sell your guitar, without making up a bunch of rubbish about how 'magic' it sounds because the 'East Indian Rosewood has a sweeter midrange' yadda yadda.

feylya

koolkakool wrote: »

i watched the video, its interesting. but what's with the worms???:)

Opening a can of worms.

voodoo_child wrote: »

Wood is wood. Different woods have different densities, and vibrate differently and all that, and you can hear that to an extent in an instrument...but do I care? No.

You listen to some of the crap that comes out of guys like Paul Reed Smith (i'll get a few quotes if I have a chance)...and its just such rubbish, he can't even believe it himself.

Give me a well-made instrument, that looks nice, plays nice and sounds nice, and i'll be happy. I genuinely don't think there's going to be a huge tone difference between alder and mahogany (in the same guitar, with same pickups etc) - sure, I could hear some difference, but its not going to lose me any sleep. At the end of the day, you've got the construction method, bridge type, pickups, finish, cable, effects, amp, speakers... Do you really think slapping in some rare or exotic wood into your PRS is going to make a BIG difference ? :rolleyes:

But im not saying instruments should be made from crap. Quality, stable woods, with a weight or character that suits the instrument...that should be enough to sell your guitar, without making up a bunch of rubbish about how 'magic' it sounds because the 'East Indian Rosewood has a sweeter midrange' yadda yadda.

+1. Let's all put tone blocks in our guitars...

Dord

feylya wrote: »

Opening a can of worms.



+1. Let's all put tone blocks in our guitars...

Make sure they're brass tone blocks! Otherwise your guitar will sound like a Squier...

feylya

Dord wrote: »

Make sure they're brass tone blocks! Otherwise your guitar will sound like a Squier...

Crap, don't tell that to Hungus! :pac:

Voodu Child

I think the most interesting thing about the video is that it shows how guitarists arent the only guys 'chasing tone'. The guys on the video are talking about the type of varnish used, the length of time the wood was dried, where the wood was cut from, whether the tree was cut on a full moon (:o) and all that malarky. And there's a 'blind' test, and they all got it wrong!

It could so easily be a 1959 Les Paul (OMG it sounds better than any LP ive played!) or a Howard Dumble amplifier..

Johnny Storm

Maple

Doctor J

Funnily enough, the plywood squier with the trem issue reminded me of my first bass, a plywood Aria, which - once fitted with some Select By EMG cheap ass pickups - reamins one of the best sounding basses I ever had. Even the guy I sold it to has complimented its tone.

Plywood ftw :pac:

It's amazing how hung up people get about wood and old wood and drying and all the rest. Even these bods talking about a 300 year old violin, how much can wood actually dry before it's dust, you know? :P

sei046

In saying that, i was up with connor hughes there today looking at a gibbo lp custom and I have to say it rocked. Was the nicest LP I have played from any company. and I play tokai!

Doctor J

A semi competant setup goes a hell of a long way to whether a guitar feels and sounds good or not and a really good setup can do miracles. Even a modern Gibson can be made feel playable with a bit of effort

boycey

Too much 'folklore' nowadays, driving, and probably fuelled by the 'vintage' market itself. '59 Les Pauls sound great Im sure, I'd chance that they sounded as good in '59 as they do now though. A well made and well set up guitar should sound great from day 1, it should'nt take 40 years of aging for it to suddenly sound great.

As a side note Yamaha have an interesting method apparently where they vibrate their violins at a certain frequency for 15 minutes. Its supposed to replicate years of string vibration travelling through the instrument. I think they were gonna introduce it on their accoustic guitar range too. Computerized mojo-fication. Technology rocks:pac:

Voodu Child

boycey wrote: »

As a side note Yamaha have an interesting method apparently where they vibrate their violins at a certain frequency for 15 minutes. Its supposed to replicate years of string vibration travelling through the instrument. I think they were gonna introduce it on their accoustic guitar range too. Computerized mojo-fication. Technology rocks:pac:

There was a guy that was doing something similar to that, I remember it was going around on the forums a few years back. A service he was offering to guitars, violins etc, he was sitting them in front of a speaker and shooting 'special sound waves' at them for a couple of days. 'Makes them sound better'....

Might have even been a thread about it here too :pac:

Dord

voodoo_child wrote: »

There was a guy that was doing something similar to that, I remember it was going around on the forums a few years back. A service he was offering to guitars, violins etc, he was sitting them in front of a speaker and shooting 'special sound waves' at them for a couple of days. 'Makes them sound better'....

Might have even been a thread about it here too :pac:

I heard that too, its a load of shite.

sei046

I have shouted some special sound waves at some cheap guitars (YOU PIECE OF.....!! WORK YOU GLORIFIED 2x4!) at they never sounded any better

darrenw5094

sei046 wrote: »

In saying that, i was up with connor hughes there today looking at a gibbo lp custom and I have to say it rocked. Was the nicest LP I have played from any company. and I play tokai!

Do you live near Connor Hughes. I live a squires throw away from there. Maybe we could get a boards.ie band going....:D

Did you see the prices of some of the Vintage Gibson Les Paul Customs.
A '71 Cherry Custom......average condition....

Interesting to see a red PRS Singlecut 2004 (vintage???) for €2500.

This wood that get old, looks old and sounds so much better is called MOJO Some people pay a fortune for it....:D