Ripley, Sarah Connor = Badass!

CyberGhost

I just got done watching Doomsday, it was an alright movie, I enjoyed the beginning a lot then like most of the UK scifi/horror movies the rest got worse and worse... anyways, it's not about the movie it's the actress.

The whole movie I found it very very hard to believe she is a real special forces solder, she looked so fragile, and also hot, the whole movie I could not concentrate.

It just seems that they are just casting a hot piece of eyecandy instead of an appropriate actress nowadays, like Kate Beckinsale in the Underworld, most guys watched it cause Beckinsale was wearing tight latex suit. Or take Charlize Theron in Aeon Flux, she is so unathletic and so unagile, she looked downright clumsy but hell since she wore some time pants I guess it's all forgiven.

Anyways, it immediately reminded me, how awesome Sigourney Weaver and Linda Hamilton were in the Aliens and the Terminator, so believable and tough, it was not hard to believe that they could shoot weapons and fight, they were genuine, tough characters.

Karl Hungus

I think it's simply down to their acting chops. Linda Hamilton especially, when you look at the two Terminator films, the character of Sarah Connor goes through an incredible transformation, in the first film she's a dizty little waitress who has a complete "Deer in the headlights" moment as the terminator draws a gun on her, but by the second she's mentally scarred yet capable of making some rather big decisions and taking the initiative. It's all backed by an absolutely terrific actress, for example; the grim determination she shows when she's about to assassinate Miles Dyson, only to break down into tears in an equally impressive show of emotion.

At the same time, I'm not sure it's entirely fair to criticise the likes of Underworld on the same level because the entire cast of characters are supernatural, we understand Kate Beckinsale's character is superhumanly strong because she's a vampire. Likewise a lot of tiny little waifs of girls in some martial arts movies, I don't really believe Zhang Ziyi could hurt a fly, but there's an element of fantasy to Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dragon, so I don't particularly hold it to the same criticism I would if there had been an unconvincing actress in the role of Ellen Ripley.

I guess it all depends on just how grounded in reality the film in question is.

Dont be at yourself

I much prefer the performance of the actor portraying Sarah Connor in the below, 'sweded' Terminator 2:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4mTCgIHpQXE

Earthhorse

Your wrong OP, those actresses are perfectly well cast.

Pieces of fluff for pieces of fluff.

Sherifu

Aeon Flux sucked so bad. Want my time back.

TheIrishGrover

Karl Hungus wrote: »

I think it's simply down to their acting chops. Linda Hamilton especially, when you look at the two Terminator films, the character of Sarah Connor goes through an incredible transformation, in the first film she's a dizty little waitress who has a complete "Deer in the headlights" moment as the terminator draws a gun on her, but by the second she's mentally scarred yet capable of making some rather big decisions and taking the initiative. It's all backed by an absolutely terrific actress, for example; the grim determination she shows when she's about to assassinate Miles Dyson, only to break down into tears in an equally impressive show of emotion.

At the same time, I'm not sure it's entirely fair to criticise the likes of Underworld on the same level because the entire cast of characters are supernatural, we understand Kate Beckinsale's character is superhumanly strong because she's a vampire. Likewise a lot of tiny little waifs of girls in some martial arts movies, I don't really believe Zhang Ziyi could hurt a fly, but there's an element of fantasy to Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dragon, so I don't particularly hold it to the same criticism I would if there had been an unconvincing actress in the role of Ellen Ripley.

I guess it all depends on just how grounded in reality the film in question is.

I know James Cameron didn't create the Ripley character but he took her from where she was at the end of alien and, IMHO, pretty convincingly turned her into the kickass heroine she was in Aliens. As KH said, the same thing with Sarah Connor. Also, look at Angela Basset in Strange Days which he wrote. Another kick ass woman. Completely believable. Cameron always seems to use very strong female characters. Even Kate Winslet in Titanic and Jamie Lee Curtis in True Lies. He got stick for the characters but they were not screaming in the corner (Well, not by the end anyway). Will be interesting to see what he does in Avatar........ and Battle Angel. Deadly

CyberGhost

TheIrishGrover wrote: »

I know James Cameron didn't create the Ripley character but he took her from where she was at the end of alien and, IMHO, pretty convincingly turned her into the kickass heroine she was in Aliens. As KH said, the same thing with Sarah Connor. Also, look at Angela Basset in Strange Days which he wrote. Another kick ass woman. Completely believable. Cameron always seems to use very strong female characters. Even Kate Winslet in Titanic and Jamie Lee Curtis in True Lies. He got stick for the characters but they were not screaming in the corner (Well, not by the end anyway). Will be interesting to see what he does in Avatar........ and Battle Angel. Deadly

Spot on Irish.