Casino/Gambling Debate now RTE 1, Questions + Answers

coillcam

As per title

mdwexford

Gratifying if you lose, what a tosser.

coillcam

mdwexford wrote: »

Gratifying if you lose, what a tosser.

I hope that I can watch that again, only really got the the tail end of things. The compulsive gambler feels gratified if he loses or wins, loves the playing or taking part. Eh okay.....

Rb

Their ignorance was tilt inducing.

coillcam

What debate needed was more compulsive gamblers imo. Maybe TJ Cloutier/Mike Matusow would suffice.

jbravado

coillcam wrote: »

I hope that I can watch that again, only really got the the tail end of things. The compulsive gambler feels gratified if he loses or wins, loves the playing or taking part. Eh okay.....

AFAIK on some level compulsive gamblers are indeed searching for the emotional release/sensation of losing.

Degag

Repeated at 2.35 am if people wnat to see it.

Coillte_Bhoy

Tackle69 wrote: »

Repeated at 2.35 am if people wnat to see it.

Cheers for that. Just finished tidying up after a local pub tourney. Might have another pint to unwind. Bubbled...66 no match for K8.

Bandara

mdwexford wrote: »

Gratifying if you lose, what a tosser.

with respect wexford your wrong mate, the man is completely accurate in saying that, to many gambling addicts the result (winning or losing) is completely irrelevant to them, I know this as I have very close experience of such a person.

For a true life example; he put about 2k on a horse racing double, first horse won and there was about 6k riding on the second horse at 3/1. He didn't bother to check the result until days later. In his own words "it didn't matter if I won or lost, as I'd just have lost the winnings that day anyway".

Thankfully when we confronted him he got help and is now gambling free for over a year, his life is still very very difficult though and we have to watch him very closely.

mdwexford

Hammertime wrote: »

with respect wexford your wrong mate, the man is completely accurate in saying that, to many gambling addicts the result (winning or losing) is completely irrelevant to them, I know this as I have very close experience of such a person.

For a true life example; he put about 2k on a horse racing double, first horse won and there was about 6k riding on the second horse at 3/1. He didn't bother to check the result until days later. In his own words "it didn't matter if I won or lost, as I'd just have lost the winnings that day anyway".

Thankfully when we confronted him he got help and is now gambling free for over a year, his life is still very very difficult though and we have to watch him very closely.

I disagree.

I sports bet and back horses regularly and have a decent knowledge of both, im never ever happy when i lose.

I have no sympathy with your true life example and just think people like that are imbeciles to be honest.

Lafortezza

Both poker players and the general public confuse poker with gambling.

Bandara

mdwexford wrote: »

I disagree.

I sports bet and back horses regularly and have a decent knowledge of both, im never ever happy when i lose.

I have no sympathy with your true life example and just think people like that are imbeciles to be honest.

Thats a very ignorant opinion, and again a completely bizarre statement on a topic you obviously know nothing about.

You have failed to see the point here which is you are not a compulsive gambler.

Comparing your actions to the actions of one is akin to an alcoholic being compared to a nun who drinks a glass of sherry each night.

mdwexford

Just because you know someone who sounds like a degen does not make you an expert on the subject.

Why is my opinion ignorant, because i dont agree with you or because i think people like that are scum??

The way the guy on TV said it was that people are going to be playing these fixed odds terminals and wont care whether they win or lose as long as they get a bit of a buzz out of it which in the case of the majority of people is complete boll*x.

Bandara

mdwexford wrote: »

Just because you know someone who sounds like a degen does not make you an expert on the subject.

Why is my opinion ignorant, because i dont agree with you or because i think people like that are scum??

The way the guy on TV said it was that people are going to be playing these fixed odds terminals and wont care whether they win or lose as long as they get a bit of a buzz out of it which in the case of the majority of people is complete boll*x.

are you for real ?

You think someone is "scum" because they gamble their money on horses or suchlike? You seriously need to extract your head from your arse and educate yourself to the real world.

If a gambling addict is "scum" I presume you'd throw them in with rapists, theives and child abusers and throw away the key?

Grow up you idiot.

eagle eye

mdwexford wrote: »

Just because you know someone who sounds like a degen does not make you an expert on the subject.

Why is my opinion ignorant, because i dont agree with you or because i think people like that are scum??

The way the guy on TV said it was that people are going to be playing these fixed odds terminals and wont care whether they win or lose as long as they get a bit of a buzz out of it which in the case of the majority of people is complete boll*x.

Whats the fixed odds terminals about?

mdwexford

Hammertime wrote: »

are you for real ?

You think someone is "scum" because they gamble their money on horses or suchlike? You seriously need to extract your head from your arse and educate yourself to the real world.

If a gambling addict is "scum" I presume you'd throw them in with rapists, theives and child abusers and throw away the key?

Grow up you idiot.

Yes.

No i think people who spend all their families food money on gambling or people who do 2k doubles and dont check the results for several days are either scum or mentally retarded. People who back in moderation such as myself are fine upstanding pillars of the community.

Idiot comment is a ban for you i presume. gl with that.

mdwexford

eagle eye wrote: »

Whats the fixed odds terminals about?

These

Pretty much just video roulette/bingo/rubbish machines

Bandara

families food money?

where does your presumption (which is wrong again) come from?

As for a ban, why don't you be a good little boy and report it, seems about your level.

mdwexford

Hammertime wrote: »

As for a ban, why don't you be a good little boy and report it, seems about your level.

Already have.

Bandara

Your mum must be so proud.

eagle eye

mdwexford wrote: »

Yes.

No i think people who spend all their families food money on gambling or people who do 2k doubles and dont check the results for several days are either scum or mentally retarded. People who back in moderation such as myself are fine upstanding pillars of the community.

Idiot comment is a ban for you i presume. gl with that.

I think you need to move out of the sheltered area you have been living in and get some real life experience.
There are people out there who use drugs, alcohol and gambling for kicks, every so often a person who is introduced to one of these things develops an uncontrollable desire to experience the buzz for as long and as often as they can. Its called addiction, and with extreme levels of addiction, all cares in the world go out the window and the drugs, alcohol or gambling completely takes over that persons life to such an extent that they cannot think about anything else. I've seen people with serious addictions in all these forms and they have the best of intentions but as soon as they get within a certain proximity of attaining their fix, all these good intentions are forgotten. Its a horrible life for most of these people, as they feel guilty all the time but cannot help themselves. Some are lucky enough to seek help and end up becoming successful in their lives again.
To call someone with a serious addiction anything other than pitiful is wrong. You have no clue what you are talking about.
As a matter of fact I would even be inclined to believe from your comments that you might be a problem gambler, maybe not a very seriously addicted one but nevertheless a problem gambler.

mdwexford

I dont believe in addictions and think its only an excuse for being a weak person with no willpower.

Yes you caught me, im a huge degen gambler, thanks for the psycho-analysis.

eagle eye

mdwexford wrote: »

I dont believe in addictions and think its only an excuse for being a weak person with no willpower.

Yes you caught me, im a huge degen gambler, thanks for the psycho-analysis.

Clearly in denial also.

Bandara

stop please, your starting to embarrass yourself now.

At this rate I'll be promoted rather than banned for my comments being so accurate.

dannydiamond

mdwexford wrote: »

I dont believe in addictions and think its only an excuse for being a weak person with no willpower.

lol, you've outdone yourself this time mick.

yeah-buddy

mdwexford wrote: »

I dont believe in addictions and think its only an excuse for being a weak person with no willpower.

Yes you caught me, im a huge degen gambler, thanks for the psycho-analysis.

You seriously need to get your head out of your arse, no one is agreeing with you so just shut up!

yeah-buddy

don't pm me again you degenorate and it is my business as this was a public forum last time i checked so i can issue my views how i like, pity you had to stoop to foul language, must be a last resort imo

CHD

Good strong debate going on as usual.Relax there everyone......

Bandara

wexford has someone hit a nerve?

Is sending abusive fould mouthed text message a banning offence? Maybe you should get some help.

http://www.gamblersanonymous.ie/

hotspur

mdwexford wrote: »

I dont believe in addictions and think its only an excuse for being a weak person with no willpower.

I haven't seen the show, will have to wait for it online, but I am firmly of the belief that fixed odds betting terminals should not be allowed into Irish bookmakers.

I'm gonna assume MdWexford is drunk and give him a pass on this one...or strung out on heroin

twasantis

mdwexford wrote: »

I dont believe in addictions and think its only an excuse for being a weak person with no willpower.

Yes you caught me, im a huge degen gambler, thanks for the psycho-analysis.

your lack of empathy is amazing!!!!!!!!

i'll take a ban and all thats comes with it to say u are an ignorant ass hole!!!!!!!!

but believe in what u want but addictions exsist but can be controlled and dealt with whats unfortunate for u is that ignorance is a disease beyond repair for which u will rightly and hopefully painfully suffer for the rest of your life because of...

u need to take that stick from up your behind and wise up my friend..

i wonder were u bullied at school or something because u come across as someone carrying the burden of hate and resentment for some reason..

i understand mods will remove this most likely..but i feel if somebody is to be allowed make a general assumption on people catagorised as having gambling addictions as "scum" he should swallow a little taste of his own s**t...