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mobile phone and email bugging?

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  • 30-06-2008 2:09pm
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    Closed Accounts Posts: 440 ✭✭


    not sure if this is in the right forum.

    some qs on mobile ph and email bugging/monitoring

    1 can a chip be put in a mobile phone to monitor a persons movements?

    2 if someone knows your number is it possible that they can trace your call activity and location?

    3 if someone knows your email address but not your password is it possible for them to monitor when you access your account and therefore determine your location?


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 20,009 ✭✭✭✭Run_to_da_hills


    maradona10 wrote: »
    not sure if this is in the right forum.

    some qs on mobile ph and email bugging/monitoring

    1 can a chip be put in a mobile phone to monitor a persons movements?
    Yes, your mobile phone is a tracking device without any added chips needed and is well capable of pin pointing your exact location even with the power switched off as was in the case with the murder of 11 year old Robert Holohan. Vodafone were able to boost the signal temporarily to detect the whereabouts of his switched off phone.
    maradona10 wrote: »
    2 if someone knows your number is it possible that they can trace your call activity and location?
    Yes whether it is a registered sim or not the location of calls can be pinpointed. A professional criminal will dump his mobile phone with sim even if its unregistered if an accomplice gets busted because the authorities have the technology to tap into the suspect numbers and use a method of triangulation to pinpoint the source of any calls being made.

    The first thing cops will do after a drugs bust is to leave the phone switched on to monitor incoming calls, they will then go through the address book and check for frequently used numbers and try to chase these up.

    Also an experienced criminal will no not to swap sims with different mobile phones particularly one he uses for "good use" because the imei number / sim can be tracked and matched with each call made.
    maradona10 wrote: »
    3 if someone knows your email address but not your password is it possible for them to monitor when you access your account and therefore determine your location
    Technology is availible to pinpoint the IP address, service provider and location of any computer user.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 440 ✭✭maradona10


    Thanks for taking the time to write that reply, appreciate it.

    Can a phone be detected or boosted if the battery has been removed?

    Could you please explain this further
    "Also an experienced criminal will no not to swap sims with different mobile phones particularly one he uses for "good use" because the imei number / sim can be tracked and matched with each call made"


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 20,009 ✭✭✭✭Run_to_da_hills


    maradona10 wrote: »
    Thanks for taking the time to write that reply, appreciate it.

    Can a phone be detected or boosted if the battery has been removed?
    If you want to be safe you would be better removing the sim card and the battery. It would be only in very exceptional cases that the authorities would resort requesting a service provider to boost a signal, such would be in a murder case or to locate missing persons.
    maradona10 wrote: »
    Could you please explain this further
    "Also an experienced criminal will no not to swap sims with different mobile phones particularly one he uses for "good use" because the imei number / sim can be tracked and matched with each call made"
    Each phone has a unique ID number. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_Mobile_Equipment_Identity

    This number is like a registration number on a car and identifies itself with every call that is made. If your phone is stolen you service provider can block your phone through its IMEL number and render it useless. If a criminal is using a phone that is being monitored by the authorities and he then puts the "dirty" sim into a "clean" phone he will contaminate it because the IMEI number of the clean phone will register every time he makes a call using the "dirty" sim.

    Any previous sim cards and correspondance used by that "clean" phone can be traced back by the service provider if requested. Such would be text messages, calls, numbers dialed etc. Service providers are required by law to hold on to all electronic records for more than 5 years. The authorities can request any of this information from a service provider if they are suspecting criminal activity.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 6,869 ✭✭✭Mahatma coat


    So the only really sensible thing to do if you find yerself in that sort of situation would be to keep a spare/safe phone thats totaly unused and destroy any other phones as soon as they become compromised, course the IP tracking is another story, but theres surely a few ways left to circumvent that


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,701 ✭✭✭Diogenes


    So the only really sensible thing to do if you find yerself in that sort of situation would be to keep a spare/safe phone thats totaly unused and destroy any other phones as soon as they become compromised, course the IP tracking is another story, but theres surely a few ways left to circumvent that

    The TV show the Wire gives an excellent account of the most effective way to avoid detection and bugging of mobile phones.

    Though mind you, if you are this paranoid about being listened to/or followed, than you are either a Baltimore Drug Dealer, or need to up your anti psychotic medication dosage.


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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 6,869 ✭✭✭Mahatma coat


    Well I dont live in Baltimore :D


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 20,009 ✭✭✭✭Run_to_da_hills


    With the way the European parliament has handed over access to all our digital records to the US authorities which would include everything on record from our Internet and mobile phone service providers I would suggest to anyone who wishes to communicate in any form of a dodgy business to invest in a flock of carrier pigeons.

    BTW I voted NO against the (Lisbon) European constitution for a reason.


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