PS3 Media Servers - Not found - Help needed

Ste05

Hi guys, I've been trawling the internet and am alomst pulling my hair out at this stage.

I can't get my PS3 to see any of my Media Servers, I've tried using 2 different Laptops, tried TVersity and WMP11 on each and it still keeps saying No media servers found. I've added both to my Comodo firewall safe applications so I don't think it's a Firewall issue.

When I do the Internet connectivity test, it says I have NAT2 but UPnP is not available, so I assume the problem is there, can anyone help me out or point me in the right direction?

I probably haven't included enough info here, but I don't know what else to include...

Thanks in advance...

Ste

KeRbDoG

Have you tried to turn off the firewalls on the computer your running the upnp media server on?
Also, how is your PS3 connected to your home network? What router do yea have?

Ste05

Haven't tried turning off Firewalls yet, I'll try that now in a sec and see if that's it.

[EDIT: Turned off Comodo Firewall, made sure Windows Firewall was disabled and even closed down AVG in case it was blocking something but still couldn't detect the media servers]

PS3 is connected to the internet through a Netgear ADSL Wireless Router DG834G.

guil

who is ur isp? if its eircom and ya set up the connection on the ps3 usin pppoe theres ur problem, i dunno y but for some reason the ps3 wont detect tversity or wmp if ya use pppoe for the connection, i dont think upnp works with eircom either

Ste05

I'm BT...

At this stage after spending almost all night searching and following every guide I can find and trying various fixes, I think I'm just giving up.

I might try uninstalling everything tomorrow and start from scratch, I must have done something wrong somewhere...

Can anyone tell me if this guide is still upto date? (I got it from the TVersity Support page so I presume it's still OK: http://www.ps3forums.com/showthread.php?t=75081

Can anyone recommend a better one, or would people maybe recommend just using WMP and using this work around (doesn't work for me obviously today) http://boardsus.playstation.com/playstation/board/message?board.id=ps3media&thread.id=65284&view=by_date_ascending&page=1

Creamy Goodness

Ste05 wrote: »

I'm BT...

majority of the irish ADSL ISP's use PPPoE.

Ste05

Ahhh cool, I'll try that tomorrow, anyone have a link to what I have to do before I waste another night googling looking for an upto date guide??

EDIT: I just checked my router and it says my network type is PPPoE. Does this mean I'll have to change the type and then re-set up everything on my router and all devices connected to it (i.e. 3 Laptops, iPhone, Wii)

Also does anyone know if my different Laptops should be able to see each other through TVersity/WMP, because they don't

baz909

I had the same problem.

firstly your not connecting to the internet so it doesnt matter which ISP you use or have.

2ndly do you have a wireless adapter installed on your PC?

As this is what you need to enalbe the "share" between your PS3 and PC.

ongarite

Its nothing to do with your internet connection or PPPOE like that.
Do you media server enabled on the PS3 in Settings?
When you try to enable media sharing with WMP11 does it see your PS3 as "Unknown Device"?

Ste05

baz909 wrote: »

2ndly do you have a wireless adapter installed on your PC?

As this is what you need to enalbe the "share" between your PS3 and PC.

Yeah, Laptop #1 is a newish Dell Inspiron 1720 which has a Wireless Adapter built in, and my second is an older Dell that has a Netgear Wireless card installed and the internal built in Wireless adapter. All my laptops connect to my router Wirelessly, so I assume there's no problem with that.

Also I can connect to the Internet with the PS3 without any problems.

ongarite wrote:

Do you media server enabled on the PS3 in Settings?
When you try to enable media sharing with WMP11 does it see your PS3 as "Unknown Device"?

AFAIK I do, is this in Network Settings? (In work at the mo so not with the PS3, I hope I have this done)

When I'm enabling media sharing in WMP11 it doesn't see anything, the box that's meant to contain devices to connect to is just blank. So it doesn't see any devices at all.

P.S. Thanks for the replies guys.

guil

i think it could be somethin to do with an update from psn cos my nat changed from 2 to 3 after an update, it was the same time that i changed my settins on the ps3 to use pppoe and since then i cant use media sharin with tversity or wmp

ongarite

PPPOE and all that lark have nothing to do with media sharing. You are sharing media on the same LAN, totally internal.
I would put the PS3 into DMZ, disable the firewall or check is media sharing enabled in XP firewall rules and try and get WMP11 to detect your PS3.

Ste05

ongarite wrote: »

I would put the PS3 into DMZ, disable the firewall or check is media sharing enabled in XP firewall rules and try and get WMP11 to detect your PS3.

How do I do this or what does it mean??

EDIT: Google is my friend, I'll try this tonight.

Could it be a router problem, I had a look at the admin page of the router to see if there was anything to stop the computers talking to each other but couldn't find anything...

It looks like I'll be wasting another night getting the bloody thing to work, it's becoming an obsession at this stage, I'm refusing to let it beat me... LOL

dasdog

Thought I'd dig this up after I stumbled upon getting this working yesterday. I built a new machine recently and installed Vuze (formerly Azureus http://azureus.sourceforge.net). I noticed a Vuze icon on my PS3 and after allowing it to publish to my LAN I was able to stream video from my PC, albeit a bit slow over wireless as I have heavy encryption and have not optimizedd QoS etc.

Eoinsku

If you are running Windows XP check the services that are running.

I installed a new version of XP last week and my PS3 couldn't see the TVersity Media Server. I went into the services (Start > Run > Type MSConfig) and check if the Windows Media Network Sharing Service service is disabled, manual, or automatic. You should set it to automatic.

Restart your computer, start TVersity and see if your PS3 can see it.

Alternatively, sometimes you have to open ports on your router. Not too much of an expert on it, but here's a link to AVS forums:

http://www.avforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=427455

Can't think of anything else if the previous replies didn't help.

Ste05

I just gave up on it... but I might try those suggestions, I have Vista on my main Laptop, but XP on my DL laptop (I use it for nothing else really). I never got around to trying to set up a DMZ but I might give that a lash too...

P.S. where does the Vuze icon appear on the PS3? Just when you search for servers it appears there I assume??

dasdog

The icon appears just below "Search for media servers"....around the same spot that the USB icon appears if you plug one in (under Videos/Music etc). Note this is all on my LAN so the only firewall that comes in to play is my local XP firewall on the machine where I have Vuze installed.

RangeR

Eoinsku wrote: »

Alternatively, sometimes you have to open ports on your router. Not too much of an expert on it, but here's a link to AVS forums:

http://www.avforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=427455

Can pleople PLEASE stop suggesting opening ports, forwarding ports, PPPOE, NAT, uPNP, DMZ etc. These have NOTHING to do with the problem. The PS3 and PC with Media for sharing should be on the local LAN, wither through WIFI or wired to a LAN port on the router.

This is not rocket science but the mis-information is putting people, namely Ste05, off resolving their problem.

Ste, if you persevere, you will not know yourself. Being able to stream from your PC to your PS3 will open up a whole new world in home entertainment. Although, slowly if everything is wireless.

Roar

i have tversity running wirelessly, and it seems to work only when it wants to.

although having installed the latest version on my pc the other day, it seems to be working ok.

irishTLR is right, really changes the way you watch tv. it's brilliant.

RangeR

Roar wrote: »

i have tversity running wirelessly, and it seems to work only when it wants to.

although having installed the latest version on my pc the other day, it seems to be working ok.

irishTLR is right, really changes the way you watch tv. it's brilliant.

I've done a good bit of Media sharing over the PS3 for a while now and have come to the following conclusions.

PS3 connecting to a media server over WIFI can be problematic. You will have a better experience if you hard wire it. I'm not just talking about speed.

The PS3 DNLA client [or maybe the PC DNLA server, WMP, TVersity etc] can be flaky at times. Not quite sure why. I could have a playlist [audio or video] with maybe 3 items in it or 30 items in it. Most of the time, the PS3 will see the entire list, but usually slow to populate. Some times, admittadly rarely, I get a DNLA connection error.

If I have a playlist on WMP11 and read that list from the PS3, if I then change the items in the playlist, I have to shutdown and restart the PS3 to see the updated list.

If I want to view remote media on my PS3, I have now gotten into the habit of browsing to the Media Server and copying the full contents of the playlist down to the PS3. Helps to have a 320GB HDD.

Tattoosnob

Hi Lads,
Can you share your favourite RSS feeds for me, some of the better feeds are great(hd feeds look wicked), some are poor enough. What are the best feeds available.
Thanks

RangeR

Tattoosnob wrote: »

Hi Lads,
Can you share your favourite RSS feeds for me, some of the better feeds are great(hd feeds look wicked), some are poor enough. What are the best feeds available.
Thanks

How is this related to the PS3 Media Server issue?
If it's not, please create your own topic and explain it a little better. RSS feeds for what, exactley?

Don't reply to that question here but please do post another thread as I may be interested in responses.

Burago

I had Tversity working fine with my PS3 for ages but since the second last firmware update it's not even seen by the PS3 any more.

RangeR

Burago wrote: »

I had Tversity working fine with my PS3 for ages but since the second last firmware update it's not even seen by the PS3 any more.

I've had every firmware over the past year or so. The problem isn't with the PS3 [more than likely]. The more likely thing is that something changed on your PC or network. Disable all firewalls [there should only be one] on your PC and try again.

Does it work with WMP11, if you have it?

Roar

IrishTLR wrote: »

I've done a good bit of Media sharing over the PS3 for a while now and have come to the following conclusions.

PS3 connecting to a media server over WIFI can be problematic. You will have a better experience if you hard wire it. I'm not just talking about speed.

The PS3 DNLA client [or maybe the PC DNLA server, WMP, TVersity etc] can be flaky at times. Not quite sure why. I could have a playlist [audio or video] with maybe 3 items in it or 30 items in it. Most of the time, the PS3 will see the entire list, but usually slow to populate. Some times, admittadly rarely, I get a DNLA connection error.

If I have a playlist on WMP11 and read that list from the PS3, if I then change the items in the playlist, I have to shutdown and restart the PS3 to see the updated list.

If I want to view remote media on my PS3, I have now gotten into the habit of browsing to the Media Server and copying the full contents of the playlist down to the PS3. Helps to have a 320GB HDD.

certainly can. had it hard wired for a while and it was excellent, but then the missus made me move the PS3 downstairs, hence me having to go wireless unfortunately.

gotten a lot of dlna errors, but as i said, upgrading to the latest version of tversity (1.0.0.3) seems to have helped

dasdog

I've only had a PS3 since the latest GTA came out and I only stumbled on this feature. It's a new concept/technology so its likely to be stubborn/unintuitive and with the little research I've done there does seem to be problems with browsing categories etc so it is imperfect.

And usually when things like this 'break' you should look to your PC or OS before the environment.

The words 'Disable' and 'firewall' should never be repeated in succession unless the test duration is small. If required add the *.exe as a firewall exception and that still is letting down the guard, especially with yet to be found by software vulnerabilites in new products.

RangeR

dasdog wrote: »

It's a new concept/technology so its likely to be stubborn/unintuitive and with the little research I've done there does seem to be problems with browsing categories etc so it is imperfect.

It may be new to the PS3 as the PS3 is new itself. This is not a new concept or technology. It's been around for a good few years, in various flavours.

Ste05

Wow some good discussion, thanks lads.

I'll defo have a go tonight, I think I'll try connecting it up with a LAN cable and see if that works then at least I'll know it can work...

So is it definitely not anything to do with my router or Network, because I can't get any computers to talk or see each other?

RangeR

Ste05 wrote: »

So is it definitely not anything to do with my router or Network, because I can't get any computers to talk or see each other?

That may be the root of your problem. Now we are getting places.
The problem is not with your PS3 as it doesn't have a local firewall.

Remind me, so I don't have to read every post again, how are your machines attached to the network? All WIFI, I think?

Can you, just as a test, hard wire your PS3 and one PC to your network, temp disable your windows firewall.

If you are using WMP11, make sure that the PS3 is a recognised device for sharing.

If using TVersity, try connect to it from your PS3 now.


* EDIT *

Ok, I've read your first post again. I'll assume that you are not technical, so bear with me.

Ignore the PS3 for the moment. Let's get your computers seeing each other.

On both computers do the following.
Click the Start button and then the Run option in the menu.
Type in

CMD

And press enter. A black window will open.
Then type

IPCONFIG

and press enter.

You will then see something like this

Microsoft Windows XP [Version 5.1.2600]
(C) Copyright 1985-2001 Microsoft Corp.

D:\Documents and Settings\Keith>ipconfig

Windows IP Configuration


Ethernet adapter Local Area Connection:

        Connection-specific DNS Suffix  . : yournetwork.local
        IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.10
        Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0
        Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.1

We are looking for the IP Address on both computers.

Now from the first computer, ping the IP Address of the second computer and vice versa.

In the black window above, type

PING 192.168.1.11

Where 192.168.1.11 is the IP Address of the OTHER computer.

You will get something like this

Pinging 192.168.1.1 with 32 bytes of data:

Reply from 192.168.1.1: bytes=32 time<1ms TTL=64
Reply from 192.168.1.1: bytes=32 time<1ms TTL=64
Reply from 192.168.1.1: bytes=32 time<1ms TTL=64
Reply from 192.168.1.1: bytes=32 time<1ms TTL=64

Ping statistics for 192.168.1.1:
    Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 4, Lost = 0 (0% loss),
Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:
    Minimum = 0ms, Maximum = 0ms, Average = 0ms

or this

Pinging 192.168.1.1 with 32 bytes of data:

Request timed out.
Request timed out.
Request timed out.
Request timed out.

Ping statistics for 192.168.1.1:
    Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 0, Lost = 4 (100% loss)

If you see the first one, things are ok so far. If you see the second one, there is a problem.

You MAY have to temp disable your firewall. You have COMODO installed [Some firewalls still block if they are disabled, may need to uninstall it for testing]. I've never used that, so can't be of much help there. Do you also have the Windows Firewall turned on. If so, disable one of them. There is no need for you to have two firewalls running on the one machine.

guil

with comodo if ya open it and click the firewall tab. then click stealth ports wizzard and ya can allow all access from ur lan from there

Ste05

Cool, thanks guys, I'm in work ATM, but I'll do this when I get home.

Thanks for taking the time to explain it step by step IrishTLR, hopefully that'll work, or at least help get to the root of the problem.

I have Windows Firewall disabled normally and just use Comodo, but I'll go and double check again before I do those steps...

guil

ste ya can add the ip of the ps3 to the trusted device list in comodo

Ste05

The computers are timing out when I try to Ping each other....

I assume the problem is there somewhere... I'm off to google, but if anyone has any suggestions they will be most appreciated.

guil

have the laptops and ps3 got static ip's and what settings have ya got on ps3

Ste05

One does (the XP older Laptop) and the other doesn't, not sure what settings on the PS3 you mean, but media servers are enabled, and it's all connected up to the internet wirelessly.

I also tried connecting the PS3 directly to my Laptop with a LAN cable but still couldn't find media servers, also with Comodo disabled, I also set a large IP range on Comodo (192.168.0.1-250) to be safe and still nothing... meh, I'm resigned to the fact I prob won't be able to get it done...

guil

i mean what settins does it give under the connection status list on the ps3 and i could be wrong but i'd say that the ip range is potentiolly disablin ur firewall cos ur allowin all traffic

RangeR

Ste05 wrote: »

The computers are timing out when I try to Ping each other....

I assume the problem is there somewhere...

Absolutely. You're network is not 100% correct. You should not be getting a timeout. Something is stopping the connection.

May I ask if you will un-install comodo firewall for a day or two, while we do more testing? Disabling might not do the trick. I know there are probably ways of configuring it to work the way we want, but I don't know the product.

Ste05

Yep, I will no problem.

I assume I can uninstall it, do whatever tests, then re-install once I've finished so I can go back to safe browsing...

RangeR

Ste05 wrote: »

Yep, I will no problem.

I assume I can uninstall it, do whatever tests, then re-install once I've finished so I can go back to safe browsing...

Sure. Personally, I don't have a software firewall on my PC's, just a strict one on the linux router. Having said that, I'm not recommending others do that, it's just my preference.

stevenmu

One small thing to keep in mind that caught me out a few times is that the PS3 needs to be on when tversity is started. Sometimes the PS3 will pick it up afterwards but often it won't and you need to restart tversity to see it.

The first thing you need to do though is make sure you can ping your PS3 from your tversity laptop, unless you can you won't be able to connect them. You should be able to find the PS3s IP address in the network settings. If you can't make sure both laptop and ps3, and prefferably router as well, are in the same IP range i.e. 192.168.0.x or 192.168.1.x which ever you use.

Damien360

I am late to this discussion so ignore this if it has already been mentioned.

If you cannot ping each machine and they both appear on the router and also both wireless clients...have you allowed the wireless clients to see each other via the router setup. To explain, you can block the wireless clients from seeing each other at all via the router. They will all operate as if they are the only system connected to the router. Not sure if this is related to allowing wireless bridging via the router. Not windows bridging.

IrishTLR appears to be king here so best to ask his opinion of this. It may open the mind to something else that fixes it !

Do not use DHCP for the PS3. Give it a fixed IP address. You can force this via the PS3 and most routers will allow this once the IP is in the range. If you use the PS3 online then you probably already have this done. Finally, enable uPNP on the router. There is a lot of info here before and I have not read all of it, just scanned, so feel free to tell me to take a hike if I am repeating all suggestions that have gone before.

stevenmu

uPNP doesn't need to be enabled on the router (altough it's probably nice to have enabled anyway). uPNP is a set of standards to allow devices interact with each other more easily, requiring less configuration by the end user. Enabling uPNP on the router would, in theory, allow the PS3 to access it's services more easily, such as opening ports as required etc. DNLA, which is the standard for media streaming used by the PS3/tversity etc, is a part of the uPNP spec, but because uPNP works as messages transmitted over regular TCP/IP the router will pass these messages between tversity and the PS3 whether uPNP is enabled on the router or not.

Ste05

Damien360 wrote: »

I am late to this discussion so ignore this if it has already been mentioned.

If you cannot ping each machine and they both appear on the router and also both wireless clients...have you allowed the wireless clients to see each other via the router setup.

Woohoo, just as I thought, I was a moran!! The network was set to Wireless Isolation mode and I fixed that, so I'm able to connect to my Media Servers, now I just need to sort out my codecs etc....

Thanks a million guys!!!

RangeR

Ste05 wrote: »

Woohoo, just as I thought, I was a moran!! The network was set to Wireless Isolation mode and I fixed that, so I'm able to connect to my Media Servers, now I just need to sort out my codecs etc....

Thanks a million guys!!!

Well done, good job.

Ste05

IrishTLR wrote: »

Well done, good job.

Thanks again, got it all working last night and finally got to watch my cousins vids through the PS3...

RangeR

Edit that last comment before we have to wave goodbye to you. It's not released on DVD yet.

Ste05

IrishTLR wrote: »

Edit that last comment before we have to wave goodbye to you. It's not released on DVD yet.

LOL, I know the rules, as you can see I'm actually a mod...

I'll edit it anyway, so people can wonder what I was watching...

Just FYI, the rule is, you're not allowed talk about where to get such things not that they exist or that you may have one (but that's not to say I have one, I could just be showing off and trying to look cool). but in general it is better to be safe then sorry, hence my edit...