Pioneer Kuro Plasma 508XD 50"

Supercell

This is an unbelievable bargain.

This may be THE best 50" plasma screen on the market (probably only surpassed by the 9th generation Kuro thats not available here yet) at a total knock down price.

Richersounds Irish site doesn't have it but they have said on boards before that anything on the UK site can be ordered here if the customer wants it.

If I had the money..this would be mine in a heartbeat...

redfan

i was told plasma wouldnt be as good as lcd? im inthe market for a large screen here now .. anyone fill me in with some details on the difference in picture.?

311

Strange specs for the Tv, it is not Full HD ready but yet it states the resolution is 1920 X 1080.

Climate Expert

redfan wrote: »

i was told plasma wouldnt be as good as lcd? im inthe market for a large screen here now .. anyone fill me in with some details on the difference in picture.?

Plasma tvs are better than LCD.

http://www.lcdtvbuyingguide.com/lcdtv-plasmavslcd.shtml

I'm in the market for a big full HD plasma but not for another few months. This is perfect.

Zonda999

Climate Expert wrote: »

Plasma tvs are better than LCD.

http://www.lcdtvbuyingguide.com/lcdtv-plasmavslcd.shtml

I'm in the market for a big full HD plasma but not for another few months. This is perfect.

This question has been discussed time and time again on boards and the usual agreement is that it comes down to personal preference(LCD, in my case:D).I would also like to say that it looks like LCD is winning with even Pioneer bringing out their own LCDs in the coming months.They will be available in the plasma screen range and all, >40"

Climate Expert

I've never seen any discussions here before. For me its about black levels and high speed stuff.

LCDs are only popular because manufacturers are pushing them as they are cheaper to make.

Zonda999

...And buy.I dont have anything against plasma's.I'd even buy one if i i didnt have a ps3 and 360.You just cant game on a plasma.I tried it and it gave me a major headache.I know plasma's are great for movies and all but i'd say you'de be paying a good bit more for a decent full hd 42" plasma that you would for a decent 42" full hd lcd

bk

Zonda999 wrote: »

...And buy.I dont have anything against plasma's.I'd even buy one if i i didnt have a ps3 and 360.You just cant game on a plasma.I tried it and it gave me a major headache.I know plasma's are great for movies and all but i'd say you'de be paying a good bit more for a decent full hd 42" plasma that you would for a decent 42" full hd lcd

Not necessarily true, a high end LCD are just as expensive as a high end Plasma, just look at the price of a Sony W or X series versus a Panasonic plasma.

Zonda999

I know but i cant imagine the profit margins on high end lcds is any greater than on high end plasmas.Tbh, you nearly have to get half decent one of either.I was in harvey normans yesterday ans saw a 42" plasma for something like 630e.Sound like a bargain but it was totally hopeless for a plasma

stevenmu

To be honest these days the differences between LCD and plasma are very small. Instead of focusing on LCD vs Plasma, people should really be looking at competing models.

And with that said the above TV has been widely accepted as one of the best TVs available, and at that price is a steal.

(I don't have one, I have a 46" LCD, but if I didn't I would seriously consider the Kuro)

Climate Expert

You just cant game on a plasma.I tried it and it gave me a major headache.

You must suffer from that rare enough flicker thing then. Myself and my friend both game on HD plasmas.
Dark games look far better imo.

Rsaeire

I would disagree as the best LCD could not come close to the the best plasma, in this case, the Pioneer LX508D, the Full HD version of the 508XD. Blacks are richer, much better contrast, excellent internal scaler... the LX508D is just better quality all round when compared against the best LCD has to offer!

In my opinion, until more LCDs come out with LED backlighting, which allow for a true black, then the crown will be with Plasma displays.

Cmar-Ireland

So this is not the full HD model?

Rsaeire

Cmar-Ireland wrote: »

So this is not the full HD model?

No it's not i'm afraid. Based upon the model number on the page it is the HD Ready version; although they do state that the resolution is 1920x1080, as mentioned previously, but this is most likely a typo.

Pioneer 508XD - HD Ready (1366x768)

Pioneer LX508D - Full HD (1920x1080)

Cmar-Ireland

Rsaeire wrote: »

No it's not i'm afraid. Based upon the model number on the page it is the HD Ready version; although they do state that the resolution is 1920x1080, as mentioned previously, but this is most likely a typo.

Pioneer 508XD - HD Ready (1366x768)

Pioneer LX508D - Full HD (1920x1080)

Hmmm,
wonder if the typo is the model number or the resolution?

Rsaeire

Cmar-Ireland wrote: »

Hmmm,
wonder if the typo is the model number or the resolution?

Considering that Richer Sounds has the HD Ready Pioneer SX5080D at £1799, the resolution on their site is listed as 1366x768 and with the addition of speakers and a stand, I would say the resolution on the 508XD is in fact incorrect and not the model number, since its price is £1499.

To answer the question definitively, I would recommend calling or emailing Richer Sounds directly.

Richersounds.ie: John

Guys, John Mc here from Richer Sounds Ireland and yes I have to confirm that the Guys in the Uk have screwed up and the 508 is not, repeat not a full HD TV - I have enjoyed making hay with them about their error (as it's normally us who make the mistakes...:-( ) However it's still a mega mega deal - as I am sure you all know Pioneer TV's are the dogs do dahs and also remember that 'REAL' Pioneer TV's just wont be aound that much longer........Ah Well...

Cmar-Ireland

Hi John,

Thanks for the clarification.
What do you mean when you say real Pioneers won't be around much longer? Are they stopping plasmas in favor of lcd?

bk

Cmar-Ireland wrote: »

Hi John,

Thanks for the clarification.
What do you mean when you say real Pioneers won't be around much longer? Are they stopping plasmas in favor of lcd?

They are outsourcing the production of some Plasma panels to Panasonic.

Cmar-Ireland

bk wrote: »

They are outsourcing the production of some Plasma panels to Panasonic.

Ah I see. I know the pioneer plasmas are top notch, but haven't Panasonic been winning best plasma awards for years?
Maybe it's not such a bad thing?

Rsaeire

Cmar-Ireland wrote: »

Ah I see. I know the pioneer plasmas are top notch, but haven't Panasonic been winning best plasma awards for years?
Maybe it's not such a bad thing?

Panasonic are pretty much about 2nd to Pioneer when it comes to Plasma, but they are both facing fierce competition now from the bigger sized LCDs from Sony and Samsung as the gap closes even further with regard to contrast and video processing.

S.I.R

it might be a bargin but by no means Cheap.....


its basically 1500 euro pre shipping..


id hate waiting 7 days for delivery of something that nice... would lose my head due to lack of patience

Richersounds.ie: John

Sir, you are correct on both counts - it 110% is not cheap but is 120% is a bargain! Yep - just to Clarify - I think everyone agrees it's Pioneer 1st for picture quality followed by the other 'Majors' Panasonic, Philips, Sony (just to be careful I put them in alphabetical order...) But Pioneer have announced that they are to cease production of their own Plasma panels after the new '9' series, which is just being launched as we speak..instead they will use OEM Plasma panels and LCD panels from 3rd party manufacturers - they will however continue to develop and implement their Kuro technology across their range - ie their new range and ranges into the future will not just be 'Badged' clones - they have also just announced a mega projector and a slew of new Audio products. These are not on the pioneer.co.uk site yet - but I'm sure they will e up soon as they were all on public show at the cedia exhibition at Excel last week - if any one would like technical details of the new 9 series just drop me a line and I will send by return, Thanks as ever, John Mc

Supercell

Ohh 9th generation Kuro you say..now I know what Santa's bringing me this Xmas . Wasn't sure when it would be available to us.

Esel

Is it true that plasmas consume about four times the power of equivalent LCDs?

Rsaeire

esel wrote: »

Is it true that plasmas consume about four times the power of equivalent LCDs?

Plasmas generally do consumer more power that LCDs but regarding the difference, it depends on the manufacturer and model as some consume more power than others.

aaf

johnmc wrote: »

Sir, you are correct on both counts - it 110% is not cheap but is 120% is a bargain! Yep - just to Clarify - I think everyone agrees it's Pioneer 1st for picture quality followed by the other 'Majors' Panasonic, Philips, Sony (just to be careful I put them in alphabetical order...) But Pioneer have announced that they are to cease production of their own Plasma panels after the new '9' series, which is just being launched as we speak..instead they will use OEM Plasma panels and LCD panels from 3rd party manufacturers - they will however continue to develop and implement their Kuro technology across their range - ie their new range and ranges into the future will not just be 'Badged' clones - they have also just announced a mega projector and a slew of new Audio products. These are not on the pioneer.co.uk site yet - but I'm sure they will e up soon as they were all on public show at the cedia exhibition at Excel last week - if any one would like technical details of the new 9 series just drop me a line and I will send by return, Thanks as ever, John Mc

Can you PM me the tech specs? When are these bad boys out and how much will they cost? Might be interested in one. I currently have a 43" Pioneer PDP-427XD (bought from your goodselves), which is fantastic and I have no complaints but I would LOVE a full 1080P panel.

Tattoosnob

aaf wrote: »

Can you PM me the tech specs? When are these bad boys out and how much will they cost? Might be interested in one. I currently have a 43" Pioneer PDP-427XD (bought from your goodselves), which is fantastic and I have no complaints but I would LOVE a full 1080P panel.

Here ya go

Main Features PDP-LX5090
Diagonal Screen Size 50-inch / 127 cm

Screen Technology Plasma

'HD ready 1080p' Yes

HD Digital Film Direct 24 Yes

Resolution (horizontal x vertical) 1,920 x 1,080

Contrast Ratio Extreme

TV Tuner Integrated Digital DVB-T and Analogue

Speakers Optional high grade side and under-mounted speakers available

Input Terminals 3 x HDMI, 1 x Component, 1 x RCA AV, 3 x Euro-SCART, 1 x CI slot, 1 x PC input, 1 x USB port

Output Terminals 1 x Optical, 1 x RCA Audio, 1 x Headphone, 1 x Subwoofer Out

Optimum Mode Yes

Home Gallery Yes

Multiscreen Options (PiP/PaP) Yes

Electronic Program Guide Yes

Dimensions (W x H x D) 1.233 x 723 x 93 mm

Weight 33,5 kg

Power Consumption 420 W / 0,3 W

Screen Build & Picture Quality PDP-LX5090
Ultra Black Panel Yes

Signal Processing Drive 2HD Yes

Direct Colour Filter 3+ Yes

True Matrix Imaging with Deep Waffle Rib Structure Yes

i-CLEAR Drive Yes

Dynamic HD Converter Yes

PAL 3D Y/C Separation Yes

Active Dynamic Range Expander (DRE) Yes

Intelligent Mode Yes

Colour Temperature Adjustment Yes

Colour Management Yes

Digital CTI (Colour Transient Improvement) Yes

Digital Flicker-Free Yes

3D Noise Reduction Yes

Block Noise Reduction Yes

Mosquito Noise Reduction Yes

Analogue Tuner Noise Reduction Yes

PureCinema Yes

Dual Screen Display Yes

Picture-in-Picture Display Yes

Still Picture Yes

Video Signals PAL, SECAM, NTSC3.58, NTSC4.43, PAL60, HD

PC Signals VGA, SVGA, XGA, Wide XGA, SXGA

Audio PDP-LX5090
Audio Output Power 18W + 18W (1 kHz, 10%, 6Ω)

Tone Control (Bass, Treble, Balance) Yes

Sound Options SRS WOW HD, SRS (Surround), SRS FOCUS (Audio Orientation), SRS TruBass (Bass Boost), SRS Definition

Digital DVB-T Tuner PDP-LX5090
DVB-T Compliant Yes

Modulation COFDM (2k / 8k)

Video decoding MPEG2 MP@ML

Audio Decoding MPEG1 Layer 1&2, AC-3

Preset Channels 999

Digital Teletext (MHEG 5) Yes

Tuner PDP-LX5090
Auto Channel Search Yes

Reception System PAL BG/I/DK, SECAM BG/DK/L/L

Number of Preset Channels 99

Teletext (CEEFAX/FLOF/TOP) Yes

Teletext Picture and Text (Dual Screen) Yes

Control PDP-LX5090
Display Languages 19 languages, including: Croatian, Czech, Danish, Dutch, English, Finnish, French, German, Greek, Hungarian, Italian, Norwegian, Polish, Portuguese, Russian, Spanish, Swedish, Turkish and Ukrainian

Remote Control Preset (TV, VCR, STB, DVD, DVR, BD)

KURO LINK Yes

i/o Link.A Yes

SR + Yes

Room Light Sensor Yes

Energy Save mode (for AV and PC) Yes

Power Management (for PC) Yes

Connection terminals PDP-LX5090
HDMI Compatible 3

Component Video In 1

RCA AV In 1 (side-in)

Euro-SCART 3

Digital Optical Audio Out 1

RCA Audio Out 1

PC Input 1

USB Input 1 (version 2.0 / side-in)

Headphone Out 1 (side-in)

Subwoofer Out (variable) 1

Common Interface Slot (CA Card) 1

SR Control 1

Other PDP-LX5090
Power Requirements AC220 - 240V, 50/60Hz

Cmar-Ireland

You're forgetting the all important question, How much?

Supercell

I think there will be a bad boy with satellite tuner too, now that will be the mutts nutz..

Richersounds.ie: John

On the water now en-route to Richer Sounds Ireland - Yummy can't wait...

I saw them last week at Cedia show in London - they look amazing.

£2499 retail for the panel - £2369 to Boardies with 1/2 price (£20) Specialist Courier delivery anywhere in Ireland...

Form an orderly queue please..

Thanks to Tattoo snob - for the specs - I could'nt have done better myself!

ATB,

John McDonald

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