93% of workers would emigrate for better job - shocker!

CtrlSource

93% of workers would emigrate for better job From the Indo

"A huge majority of Irish people are willing to emigrate to find a better job, according to a survey published today.

Ninety-three per cent of respondents said they would move abroad for a better job.

The US, the UK and Japan are the most appealing destinations.

The survey was carried out by the Manpower Ireland recruitment agency."


Sounds like absolute rubbish! Who did they poll - a dozen disaffected job seekers?!

MIN2511

Not suprised.... with the Economy and the standard of living being over the roof we could all emmigrate....

RealEstateKing

the poll just asks IF you would emigrate if you had to, not if you really want to or not.

Therefore everybody said yes, as it's a pretty self-evident question.

raido9

Depends on how much better the job was. Unless it was a massive difference, I'm in that 7%.

MIN2511

I wonder what the statistics are for these polls, i don't believe half of them as i think they target a particular age range, town etc

They should ask the people of boards:D


Mostly geeks and in IT!

Martron

i reckon when it came to the crunch not only half the people would go. and its a recruitment company doing the survey which means they are probably asking people who either have no job or are looking for a job

Sherifu

People the moneh? Nooooooooooooooooooooo!

I bet the 7% are politicans and public/civil servants.

chin_grin

the crunch

oooooooooooh we're not on to the Crunch again!? Yeah, I'd go. I hate this crappy over-priced sh!thole of a place. (I'm Irish by the by).

seamus

Are there actually any links to the questions or even an indication of the questions? Emigrating is pretty much the last thing I'd do, unless most of my family and friends had already done it or were planning to go too.

RealEstateKing

the question is "would you emigrate to find work?" not "do you want to emigrate?"

I.e "Would you shoot a man who was about to kill you family?" vs. "Do you want to shoot a man?"

As a question it tells us nothing about whether Irish people want to emigrate or not.

Are we clear now?

Ok I can go to bed.

Kovik

If you're looking to flee the economy, why the hell would you cite the UK or US as destinations? Banks everywhere are screwed, but least there hasn't been a run on any here or a crazed rights issue from any company (unlike the UK most notably). Western economies are all gonna go through an enormous slowdown, we just live in a country with a particularly touchy media when it comes to the economy, not to mention a massively reactionary online community.

kmart6

Not exactly a shocker!

Run_to_da_hills

There is plenty of construction work in Poland, I.e. Microsoft, Dell and Intel plants.

kmart6

....Prepare to be cruicified!

Marcus.Aurelius

Bye bye Ireland!

gurramok

Kovik wrote: »

Banks everywhere are screwed, but least there hasn't been a run on any here or a crazed rights issue from any company (unlike the UK most notably).

Not yet, we have a domestic debt ridden housing bubble bursting at the same time as the international factors like the credit crunch, lets hope we don't get a Northern Rock like situation.

Kovik wrote: »

Western economies are all gonna go through an enormous slowdown, we just live in a country with a particularly touchy media when it comes to the economy, not to mention a massively reactionary online community.

Yeh, they talked up this economy based on 'fundamentals' for years but yet when the fundamentals are exposed as phoney, the media turns.

CtrlSource

kmart6 wrote: »

Not exactly a shocker!

i was being sarky with the title there!

This was a 'made for tabloid' poll and let's face it, the Indo isn't much better than a tabloid

Kipperhell

The "survey" was perfomed by a recruitment agency of the people looking for work with them.

Used to work in market research and this is a very bias survey given their sample group.

Example of possible leading question
"Would you consider emigrating for the job?"

Many of the surveys used by papers are completely bias and would not pass the Market Research Institute. The phone polls are the most ridiculous pieces of information and the fact people pay to take part in sum is bewildering

Hobbes

CtrlSource wrote: »

["A huge majority of Irish people are willing to emigrate to find a better job, according to a survey published today.

"**** you Frank!"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=If9EWDB_zK4

Kovik

gurramok wrote: »

Not yet, we have a domestic debt ridden housing bubble bursting at the same time as the international factors like the credit crunch, lets hope we don't get a Northern Rock like situation.

The housing bubble isn't unique to Ireland, as there's a similar situation in the UK, Spain, the US and quite a few other western nations. Yet, weirdly (given that we likely have the highest private investment in the property sector of such a group) our banks continue to hold steady for the time being. Perhaps the argument that our eccentric property investment is the product of the new money economy and not merely private speculation and that we'll be spared any ludicrously bad consequences holds true, or maybe the banks here have simply been more prudent and pragmatic. Regardless, our present situation suggests we'll not fare catastrophically worse than our neighbours as the media has suggested.

Yeh, they talked up this economy based on 'fundamentals' for years but yet when the fundamentals are exposed as phoney, the media turns.

The media have been heralding armageddon since 2000. Now that there's some substance to their claims, they're going to town.

Things are reasonably bad, but there's no sense abandoning ship (yet). Asking questions about emigration is particularly stupid. Right now, we're risking killing confidence among consumers as well as investors due to this frantic alarmism.

boogle

Kovik wrote: »

Things are reasonably bad, but there's no sense abandoning ship (yet). Asking questions about emigration is particularly stupid. Right now, we're risking killing confidence among consumers as well as investors due to this frantic alarmism.

I say we all jump ship, burn down the country and cash in the insurance money

Kovik

boogle wrote: »

I say we all jump ship, burn down the country and cash in the insurance money

But my playstation lives there! =(

boogle

Kovik wrote: »

But my playstation lives there! =(

You can buy a new one with the fraudulent insurance claim money. I hear they come pretty cheap in Guatemala.

gurramok

Kovik wrote: »

Yet, weirdly (given that we likely have the highest private investment in the property sector of such a group) our banks continue to hold steady for the time being. Perhaps the argument that our eccentric property investment is the product of the new money economy and not merely private speculation and that we'll be spared any ludicrously bad consequences holds true, or maybe the banks here have simply been more prudent and pragmatic. Regardless, our present situation suggests we'll not fare catastrophically worse than our neighbours as the media has suggested.

I wouldnt be so sure on that. Two-thirds of bank lending is mortgage related to both Ireland and UK(insert other country). Their share prices are crap because of their exposure, lets hope bad debts are minimal.

Kovik wrote: »

The media have been heralding armageddon since 2000. Now that there's some substance to their claims, they're going to town.

I disagree. They have been cheerleaders of the boom till last year. Any doommonger was shot down and even encouraged by our former esteemed leader to top oneself saying 'ya know nuttin about nuttin'.

WooPeeA

Not suprised. Irish are very emigrant kind of people. It has long history of emigration. And there's nothing wrong with that. We got only one life.. why shouln't we spend it the best we can?


By the way, did you know that there's 10 times more people who describe themselves as Irish outside of the country than inside of Ireland?

Kovik

gurramok wrote: »

I wouldnt be so sure on that. Two-thirds of bank lending is mortgage related to both Ireland and UK(insert other country). Their share prices are crap because of their exposure, lets hope bad debts are minimal.

That's very true. However, more of it lies in residential property here than elsewhere due to the new money climate. Such people are less inclined to simply write off the shortfall in their mortgage due to the devaluation of their property and hand over the keys than commercial investors and speculators. That being said, things will get bad. Very bad. My contention, though, is that we're in the same boat as other western nations and not especially bollicked as people have suggested.

I disagree. They have been cheerleaders of the boom till last year. Any doommonger was shot down and even encouraged by our former esteemed leader to top oneself saying 'ya know nuttin about nuttin'.

I fully agree that the government couldn't put the pompoms away, but I've been reading "housing prices volatile, crash imminent" in the Times and Indo for nearly ten years now. Maybe I just seek out the pessimistic stuff, I dunno. But I was genuinely worried there'd be a "boy who cried wolf" situation when things suddenly got very bad.