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Qualifying to play for your country rules

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  • 26-06-2008 9:41am
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    Closed Accounts Posts: 170 ✭✭


    Sorry to bring up an old arguement which has been delared dead many times but people are obviously interested in it.

    re: a certain munster centre qualifying for Ireland through residency.

    This has been declared impossible as he has played sevens for the all blacks -
    but just came across this, when reading about Brian Smith being linked with the englnad backs coach job -

    "Smith is a former Ireland international, gaining 9 caps in the halves between 1989 and 1991.He had previously been capped 6 times by Australia in 1987."

    "As a player Brian was a dual International, having represented Australia on six occasions at stand off during 1987 and Ireland nine times between 1989 and 1991."

    have the rules changed since? if so when did this come in?



    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brian_Smith_(rugby)

    http://www.guardian.co.uk/sport/2008/jun/26/englandrugbyunionteam.rugbyunion

    http://www.bathrugby.com/4007_1377.php


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  • Registered Users Posts: 6,686 ✭✭✭tHE vAGGABOND


    The rules have indeed changed since then..

    Now if you play a single second of a competitive game, at 7's, u19, A etc you are bound to that country. Im pretty sure its only competitive games, so if you played a 'friendly' you are grand, but at the lower levels they don't do friendly's so much.

    I know of a lad who played 30 seconds of a 7's match for one country when he was 19, and is now 25 odd, and living in a developing rugby nation who REALLY want him to play for them, but he cant play for them as he is bound to the country he played 7's for]. [Which is sad for the lad in question]

    There was also a story in the papers a month or two ago of a lad from fiji [?] who played a minute or two of a world cup qualifier when he was 17 or 18 - but now the All Blacks were sniffing around him, and he cant go over there as he has been called [Damn Right IMHO!]

    Brian Smith was crap BTW [IMHO] - he played for a season or two and then fecked off again. A lot of fuss about nothing [Again, IMHO]


  • Registered Users Posts: 5,772 ✭✭✭toomevara


    Looks like he's about to leave the exiles to be installed as england attack coach....


  • Registered Users Posts: 12,153 ✭✭✭✭Sangre


    The rules have indeed changed since then..

    Now if you play a single second of a competitive game, at 7's, u19, A etc you are bound to that country. Im pretty sure its only competitive games, so if you played a 'friendly' you are grand, but at the lower levels they don't do friendly's so much.

    I know of a lad who played 30 seconds of a 7's match for one country when he was 19, and is now 25 odd, and living in a developing rugby nation who REALLY want him to play for them, but he cant play for them as he is bound to the country he played 7's for]. [Which is sad for the lad in question]

    There was also a story in the papers a month or two ago of a lad from fiji [?] who played a minute or two of a world cup qualifier when he was 17 or 18 - but now the All Blacks were sniffing around him, and he cant go over there as he has been called [Damn Right IMHO!]

    Brian Smith was crap BTW [IMHO] - he played for a season or two and then fecked off again. A lot of fuss about nothing [Again, IMHO]
    Underage internationals don't count. Only a full A, 7s or international cap afaik


  • Registered Users Posts: 9,249 ✭✭✭Stev_o


    The rules have indeed changed since then..

    Now if you play a single second of a competitive game, at 7's, u19, A etc you are bound to that country. Im pretty sure its only competitive games, so if you played a 'friendly' you are grand, but at the lower levels they don't do friendly's so much.

    I know of a lad who played 30 seconds of a 7's match for one country when he was 19, and is now 25 odd, and living in a developing rugby nation who REALLY want him to play for them, but he cant play for them as he is bound to the country he played 7's for]. [Which is sad for the lad in question]

    There was also a story in the papers a month or two ago of a lad from fiji [?] who played a minute or two of a world cup qualifier when he was 17 or 18 - but now the All Blacks were sniffing around him, and he cant go over there as he has been called [Damn Right IMHO!]

    Brian Smith was crap BTW [IMHO] - he played for a season or two and then fecked off again. A lot of fuss about nothing [Again, IMHO]

    That was Nacewa hence why he is off to Europe since he can never play for the All Blacks


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 161 ✭✭Pinetree Boy


    Pretty sure been on board before but here is the rule link.

    http://www.irb.com/mm/document/lawsregs/0/060924gfirbregulation8%5f883.pdf

    Think it came in around 2000. Recall Steve devine who played 7's for Aus and was then an AB had played sevens before then so got away with it.

    There was talk of easing it for emerging nations e.g allowing an ex AB to play for a Pac Is team. Which I thought was a good idea but haven't heard anything further.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 6,686 ✭✭✭tHE vAGGABOND


    Nacewa
    I realized that later in the day, when I saw his name in the Leinster Squad. Im told by a couple of Kiwi's he really is **** hot.


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