Best all round tyre???

bitemybanger

What in your own opinion is the best tyre for value for money, milage, keeping you on the road??
I have Goodyear Eagle F1s on mine and ive put over 40K miles on them and thiers still plenty of life in them yet, great in the wet and good value i suppose, E75 per corner

keefg

Best all round tyre?

Aren't they all round?



Ahem.....I'll get my coat

s14driftking

bitemybanger wrote: »

What in your own opinion is the best tyre for value for money, milage, keeping you on the road??
I have Goodyear Eagle F1s on mine and ive put over 40K miles on them and thiers still plenty of life in them yet, great in the wet and good value i suppose, E75 per corner

id wreckon wat u have is the best tyre for your car as your getting good value out of it r they the first original tyres on it to get tat much mileage

bitemybanger

s14driftking wrote: »

id wreckon wat u have is the best tyre for your car as your getting good value out of it r they the first original tyres on it to get tat much mileage

Thier not originals,They were put on the car the week i bought it, just 3 years ago.

Biro

bitemybanger wrote: »

What in your own opinion is the best tyre for value for money, milage, keeping you on the road??
I have Goodyear Eagle F1s on mine and ive put over 40K miles on them and thiers still plenty of life in them yet, great in the wet and good value i suppose, E75 per corner

17,000 miles was all I could get out of them on the Celica, beginning to go after that. €140 per tyre for the 205 50 R16's.

peasant

infraction for s14driftking for repeated use of textspeak.

bazz26

I don't think there is any one "best alround" tyre.

It can really depends on the car they are fitted to. For example I had Bridgestones on a car and found them to be completey rubish but other people found them great on their cars.

tm2204

Just bought 4 Nankang NS2 Sport tyres from Camskill for €195 and had them fitted for €40.

Great tyre, so far, very quiet & grip feels good.

Did a lot of research on them before I bought them and they were well received.

fletch

40k is amazin out of Eagle F1's, I'd be delighted if I even got half that. I'd go with F1's again if I were you. They are brilliant in the wet and dry.

colm_mcm

I never heard great things about Nankangs, apart from that they're not too expensive. that said it's probably not fair to generalise all their tyres.

LoopyBum

Pirelli

I've always kept same brand as it arrived from factory on. I wouldn't be mad about Goodyear, just a personal thing. Dunlop or Bridgestone would be fine too. I'd steer clear of the cheaper makes if you're doing big milage, but having said that, Federal can do the job surprisingly well and you can't beat their price! Michelin are just overrated and over priced and don't do 'claims', not a problem with cars, mostly affects trucks, car claims are nearly non existent in fairness...

So if you're happy with what you have then no point changing?

Damien360

Best tyre for getting mileage is Michelan but they cost a fortune

Generally I get 30000 miles from Bridgestones for 150 a piece on a Mondeo.

Continetals are great in the dry but awful in the wet for same price.

Pirelli are fantastic but I could'nt get 15000 from them and are a bit closer to 180.

As LoopyBum said, if you are happy with your choice at the moment then why change.

Cyrus

i think the best VFM are Falken 452s

Best tyres imo are vredestein ultrac sessantason a reasonable budget and michelin ps2 if money no object

Biro

bazz26 wrote: »

I don't think there is any one "best alround" tyre.

It can really depends on the car they are fitted to. For example I had Bridgestones on a car and found them to be completey rubish but other people found them great on their cars.

Not criticising you in particular, but that statement is not really much use in that Bridgestone make many tyres, so the ones you had might be their worst ever make!
For example, I never found Pirelli P6000's to be great, P5000's are much better for similar money. P Zero's even come in different guises.
It's very hard to generalise a whole brand, but you can a little bit. It's possible to get a crap tyre from brand X and also get a fantastic tyre from the same brand. This thread would be more useful if people could remember the specific tyre they had.
Dunlop SP sport 9000's I found fairly good, but not nearly as good as the Eagle F1's. Only lasted about 4k miles further.

rigal

Avon ZZ3's

JHMEG

bitemybanger wrote: »

I have Goodyear Eagle F1s on mine and ive put over 40K miles on them

That's extraordinary. Are you sure it's 40k miles?

I've Vredestein Sporttrac 3 on the car at moment. I'd rate them highly. They have that pointy-in-the-centre tread pattern, like the Goodyears, that's trendy at the moment.

S.I.R

anything you can afford really as if they work, no worrys, though generally i hate cheap tyres, semi slick bridgestones are prefferable but id love toyo's....

LoopyBum

rigal wrote: »

Avon ZZ3's

Cheap Dunlop so OK by association lol

bitemybanger

JHMEG wrote: »

That's extraordinary. Are you sure it's 40k miles?

I've Vredestein Sporttrac 3 on the car at moment. I'd rate them highly. They have that pointy-in-the-centre tread pattern, like the Goodyears, that's trendy at the moment.

Absolutly positive, car had 39K when i got it, it now has 81K and i never changed them and i do like to give it the berries from time to time on nice twisty roads.

245

I've 60K KM on a set of Michelin Energys - mostly backroads, plenty of bends and scrub. 3mm tread left on all (rotated every 9K KM). The car is prone to understeer and wet grip isn't fantastic but then it is a diesel Corolla so its hard to tell if its the car's fault or the tyres....

furtzy

Vredestein Ultracs. I always buy them... Fantastic in the wet

barryfitz

I have cheap chinese jintongs on my machine. Cant fault them, (did get them for free;)) then again they rarely get pushed to the limits but they are perfect for the type of driving I do.

Cyrus

barryfitz wrote: »

I have cheap chinese jintongs on my machine. Cant fault them, (did get them for free;)) then again they rarely get pushed to the limits but they are perfect for the type of driving I do.

unless you need to brake suddenly in the wet :rolleyes:

Zube

I avoid the cheapest of the cheap, I just had four B.F. Goodrich tyres put on at €50 a corner.

Not much point in putting P-Zeroes on a Kangoo...

peasant

Extensive annual tyre tests (summer and winter tyres) in German car magazines have shown that not only is there a difference between brands and models of tyre, but that tyre size also affects performance.

One tyre may be the overall winner in a certain size/width, but may fall off its leading position once it's tested in a different size.

Something to do with how effective a certain thread pattern is relative to tyre width, as dynamics change relaive to the size of the tyre surface that is in contact with the road.

Andrewf20

LoopyBum wrote: »

Pirelli

Which pirelli? Theres loads of types.

The goodyear eagle F1 ds3 is the grippiest tyre ive ever had, but they wear at a savage rate.

The best all round tyre (decent wear, cost, grip in dry and wet, handling) is the Toyo Proxes T1 R's at 120euro for 225/50 R16's.

My brother said that the Bridgestone Potenza S03s were the best all round tyre hes ever had.

Ive gor Continental premium contacts on all corners at the mo. Great grip, but savage wear on the back. Ill probably get about 15-18k miles out of them.

Cyrus

15-18k miles isnt savage wear

10k is pretty bad wear

7k is savage

Victor_M

Cyrus wrote: »

15-18k miles isnt savage wear

10k is pretty bad wear

7k is savage

I can vouch for that, bought a new set of Rear 18" Continental Contisports at Christmas, they needed replacing last month with approx 7-8K Miles on them.

In now the proud owner of a set of 19" Falken's though;) and so far I'm impressed, same grip level as the conti's in the dry, haven't really pushed it in the wet yet. Hopefully they will be able to take a bit of abuse better than the conti's!

Marcus.Aurelius

Bridgestone Turanza ER 300 195/65 R15 91V for my old 626 Sport, nice to thrash around a bit. They last 20,000 to 30,000 miles no problem, but are relatively expensive to replace (€100 per corner last time)

Cyrus

Victor_M wrote: »

I can vouch for that, bought a new set of Rear 18" Continental Contisports at Christmas, they needed replacing last month with approx 7-8K Miles on them.

In now the proud owner of a set of 19" Falken's though;) and so far I'm impressed, same grip level as the conti's in the dry, haven't really pushed it in the wet yet. Hopefully they will be able to take a bit of abuse better than the conti's!

i found them good in the wet not goodyear f1 good but easily 90% as good, havent noticed any difference, good or bad, with the ps2s yet :rolleyes:

ZiabR

Eagle F1's in my opinion used to be the best you can get until they stopped making them. Yes they have stopped making them, all you will get are whats left in stock across the countries. One very important thing to remember is there are three types of Eagle F1.

One made in Germany
One made in China
One made in US

The ones made in Germany are the best tyres i ever had. They are made using a slightly different process and compound and this of course is something that Goodyear deny.

The ones in China/US which are the ones you will most likely get if you buy them now are not the same tyre and they do not offer the same grip in wet/dry conditions.

I am into my cars big time, Evo's, Teg Type R's, Civic Type R's etc so i do know a good tyre when i get one.

On my DC5 Teg Type R, i am using Toyo Proxes T1 R's and they are a very good tyre with good grip in the dry and wet.

I have had Yoko's also and while they were an ok tyre i found the sidewalls to be like bricks, and with my coilovers it was like being in a WWII tank.

Potenzas are another highly regarded tyre but you will pay for them as they are usually more expensive per corner.

If you are going for Toyo's DO NOT get the T1 S's, make sure its the T1 R's.

Atomic Pineapple

Marcus.Aurelius wrote: »

Bridgestone Turanza ER 300 195/65 R15 91V for my old 626 Sport, nice to thrash around a bit. They last 20,000 to 30,000 miles no problem, but are relatively expensive to replace (€100 per corner last time)

Just after putting these on my Integra, they seem pretty good so far and I've been told they should last longer than the last ones which only lasted 10k miles

RobAMerc

I cannot believe people go out and put the cheapest rubber they can get on the car - would you skimp on medical procedures too ?

Anyway - I have always had a thing for the Eagle F1's having put them on a few cars - I put a set on my 320 recently and have had no cause for complaint.

One thing though, its a pity you cannot take cars for a test drive with different tyres on them.

I had a R5 GT turbo that had Michelins on it , tramlined like hell, even the white line in the road caused a bit of a fight to get over.
Mate gave me a lone of his Pirelli ( P5 I think ) and the thing was way better although it did understeer a little earlier than before but given the GT turbos light rear ended ness it was better to be informed early that your a tool than late!

Anyway - car mags often do a controlled tests on this very subject. Worth a search, I know Autocar defo do.

Omcd

Turanzas, they were a great tyre. I tryed replacing my Turanza ER70s last year but was told by several places they were no longer made.

Several years ago I decided to save a few pennies by putting budget tyres on the car (cant remember the make of tyre), the result was being almost completely marooned trying to pull away from traffic lights during rainstorms, and I finally gave up on them after aquaplaning off the approach to a bridge (onto a farm track luckily) at a measily 20 mph. All four tyres came off the car after only two weeks and the Turanza ER70s went on - problem solved completely ! I definitely would put these on again - if I could get them .

Has anyone travelling the N3 regularly noticed tyre wear on the left hand side of the car increasing since the new tight roundabouts appeared on the N3 ? I've had to replace the two left hand tyres on my car recently because they suddenly started to wear down like mad - I have my suspicions about these roudabouts after trying to avoid a lump of metal while going around the roundabout near the Dunboyne turnoff and finding, as the car slewed sideways in response to trying to tighten my line by a foot or two, that I was already at limit of grip while going around the thing at reasonably sedate speed. Judging by the state of crash barrier there I think someone else found that out too...

hebejebees

Marcus.Aurelius wrote: »

Bridgestone Turanza ER 300 195/65 R15 91V for my old 626 Sport, nice to thrash around a bit. They last 20,000 to 30,000 miles no problem, but are relatively expensive to replace (€100 per corner last time)

Great tyre, In my opinion the ER300 is one of the best all rounders, probably paid a bit much for them though (€80-90 would be good)

Michelin Energys can't be beaten though, i've seen them do 60,000 miles on light vans but they cost far too much for most people to justify them

_Kaiser_

Omcd wrote: »

Has anyone travelling the N3 regularly noticed tyre wear on the left hand side of the car increasing since the new tight roundabouts appeared on the N3 ? I've had to replace the two left hand tyres on my car recently because they suddenly started to wear down like mad - I have my suspicions about these roudabouts after trying to avoid a lump of metal while going around the roundabout near the Dunboyne turnoff and finding, as the car slewed sideways in response to trying to tighten my line by a foot or two, that I was already at limit of grip while going around the thing at reasonably sedate speed. Judging by the state of crash barrier there I think someone else found that out too...

Yea I've noticed that those roundabouts aren't great, and that for a new 2-lane (bus + driving) road, it's very narrow for some reason?

The first week or so that the road opened (without being lit at the Dunboyne roundabout), I was coming home late when the heavy fog decended.
I slowed down (as you do) and was just remarking to my girlfriend, who was also in the car, that they really needed to light this road as there's a new roundabout ahead (wasn't exactly sure how far up at this stage as it was only my 2nd time on this stretch) when I found myself just about on it.

Luckily, the tyres/brakes (and the fact I wasn't going that fast anyway were enough) but the guy in front hadn't been that lucky as he was in the middle of the roundabout itself having gone through the signage on the edge of it.

barryfitz

Cyrus wrote: »

unless you need to brake suddenly in the wet :rolleyes:

Incase you havent noticed cyrus, we do live in Ireland where it rains almost 360 days of the year, and where the quality of drivers is p1ss poor which leads to a lot of instances of having to brake suddenly. therefore I do often have to brake suddenly while in the wet and the tyres do an excellent job. You can have your rolleyes back, :rolleyes: Of course, braking in an emergency is also a skill, and the tyres arent the only factor in bringing you to a safe stop.;)

Cyrus

barryfitz wrote: »

Incase you havent noticed cyrus, we do live in Ireland where it rains almost 360 days of the year, and where the quality of drivers is p1ss poor which leads to a lot of instances of having to brake suddenly. therefore I do often have to brake suddenly while in the wet and the tyres do an excellent job. You can have your rolleyes back, :rolleyes: Of course, braking in an emergency is also a skill, and the tyres arent the only factor in bringing you to a safe stop.;)

well i can only assume that you have never had to emergency brake in the wet, or else you wouldnt be posting here now, tyres are the single most important factor and doesnt matter how good a driver you think you are, if you have crap tyres you will end up in a wall or someone elses car.

if you ever look at any tyre test you will see that braking distances in the wet can vary by up to 10 metres from best to worst and this is with premium tyres, your linglongs or whatever they are will add another 5-10, so are you telling me that they are safe?

cheap tyres are cheap for a reason, keep telling yourself they are just as good as expensive tyres

have this back :rolleyes:you deserve it

antodeco

Ive got 225/45/r17 f1s at the minute. Great tyre. Havnt let me down (touch wood). Saying that, they need to be rotatated. Do kwik fit rotate?

voxpop

Is there any point rotating tyres ? Why not just replace the front 2 when needed and leave the back as is (or vice-versa in rwd).

Ive got eagle nct 5s on mine and they do a decent job. Is there alot of tire noise from F1 ?

barryfitz

Cyrus wrote: »

so are you telling me that they are safe?

perfectly safe as long as I dont drive like a spanner and adjust my speed for the conditions.

Cyrus wrote: »

keep telling yourself they are just as good as expensive tyres

And where did I say this.

EDIT: I would imagine that the best tyre for one mans car is not the best one for anothers. Given the different weights of cars, types/sizes of discs etc etc. My two cents.

Cyrus

barryfitz wrote: »

perfectly safe as long as I dont drive like a spanner and adjust my speed for the conditions.


And where did I say this.

on point a) i completely disagree but im not going to change your mind and its your look out

on point b) its what you are implying, you say they do an excellent job in the wet, in order for them to do an excellent job in the wet they would need to get as good as one of the best tyres in the wet no?

barryfitz

Cyrus wrote: »

on point b) its what you are implying, you say they do an excellent job in the wet, in order for them to do an excellent job in the wet they would need to get as good as one of the best tyres in the wet no?

You can draw what you want from that by applying whatever logic you want but no that is not what I was implying. I said my "linglongs" do an excellent job at stopping my car (I know this through first hand expecience), not that they do a better job than the more expensive tyres. i.e they do what they are designed to do and do it well. equally as well as my last set of Hankooks or Toyos. I cant compare them to Pirelli's or Bridgestones as Ive never had the need to put these on my car, why would I when the ones I have, have not let me down.

Anyway I hate these stupid arguments (for the sake of argueing) that seem to ruin so many threads. Il not say any more, I posted my opinion in the first post.

Sorry guys let the thread continue.

Cyrus

this isnt a stupid argument, its actually very important, and people giving first hand experience of linglongs and stating that they are good may encourage others to buy them

they dont do an excellent job at stopping your car, because it will take them up to 20m more to stop it than goodyear f1s or vredestein ultracs.

AntiVirus

Biro wrote: »

17,000 miles was all I could get out of them on the Celica, beginning to go after that. €140 per tyre for the 205 50 R16's.

Thats about the same as me on my Celica, 215,45,17 €120 per tyre for me

You've done well to get 40k out of them, there must be alot of straight roads where you live. :pac: