EU 11

zepp

We over on http://www.irishelection.com/ have been covering the fallout of the Lisbon Treaty and seeing what has been said b various people. Janez Jansa current EU president and prime Minister of Solvenia has said that the EU lacks an identity and could do with something unifying like a soccer team. So who would be on your EU eleven.

Mine

Casillas Spain
Lahm (germany) Puyol (Spain) Terry(England) Evra (France)

Fabragras (Spain) Gattaso(Italy) Gerard (England)

Ronaldo(Portugal) Sneijder(Holland)
Ibrahimovic(Sweden)

Does not need to be based on Euro 2008 but have to be in EU.
Also would you support an EU team. It works for the Ryder Cup.

Guess the idea would be to play in an intercontinental tournament.
For fun you can pick an African and South American 11.
Also who would win.

Tusky

I have just come here to say that Ibrahimovic is certainly not the best striker in the EU. Hes not even in the top 5 in my opinion!

Death or Glory

Casper Ankergran

Frazer Richardson
Lubo Michalik
Paul Huntington
Bradley Johnson

David Prutton
Johnny Howson
Jonathan Douglas
Neil Kilkenny

Jermaine Beckford
Tresor Kandol

Mitch Connor

Casilas

Lahm
Ferdinand
Canavaro
Evra

Xavi
Fabregas
Silva
Ronaldo

Torres
van Nistlerooy

Also, I don't think it would work.

The ryder cup works because it is an invidual sport, put into a team environment, and it is spread over days of play. An EU team could only compete in exhibition matches which wouldn't mean anything.

Pepe LeFrits

Buffon
Evra
Cannavaro
Chiellini
Sagna
Senna
Fabregas
Sneijder
Ronaldo
Gerrard
Torres

CantGetNoSleep

It would give us a great opportunity to hammer the chinks, dont think anyone would ever tire at that

Eu v South America would be a cracking match though, and Africa would be good too

titan18

Theres a competition called the Meridian Cup.Its a match between a European under 18 team against the African under 18s

gixerfixer

Castilles
Lahm
Carvalio
Cannavaro
Grosso
Xavi
Gerrard
Ballack
C.Ronaldo
Torres
RVN

bUILDERtHEbOB

Cassillas
Lahm, Carvalho, Cannavaro, Evra
Xavi, Gattuso
Gerrard, Fabragas, Sneijder
Torres

dc69

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Buffon

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-Lahm----Carvalho----Cannavaro---Evra

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Xavi---Fabregas

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Gerrard

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Ronaldo---

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Torres--Van Nistelrooy

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How Gatusso or Ibrahimovich could be in any eu 11 is ridicuous.

Bubs101

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Buffon

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Zambrotta----Terry/Ferdinand----Carvalho---Chivu

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Pirlo--Ballack---Xavi

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C. Ronaldo

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Sneijder

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Torres

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thusspakeblixa

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Casillas

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Lahm----Cannavaro

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Ferdinand

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Evra
Ronaldo----Xavi

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Ballack

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Sneijder

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Torres

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Benzema

tdv

.......................Buffon......................

Lahm............Nesta.....Vidic...........Evra

..............Xavi.............Iniesta..........

J.Navas...................................Capel

..............Villa..............Benzema....

leninbenjamin

Why are people putting Lahm on the right? he's a left back.

Seaneh

He's both footed.

leninbenjamin

Seaneh wrote: »

He's both footed.

no, he's right footed. and he's operates a lot better on the left than he does the right.

menoscemo

zepp wrote: »

Does not need to be based on Euro 2008 but have to be in EU.
Also would you support an EU team. It works for the Ryder Cup.

Just a minor bone of contention there. The Ryder cup is not an EU team, it is a European team. So is our football team going to be an exclusively EU one (i.e. no Russians, Serbs, Croats, norweguans etc) or a European one?

ShoulderChip

leninbenjamin wrote: »

no, he's right footed. and he's operates a lot better on the left than he does the right.

no he operates a lot better on right back, his preferred position.

why would he prefer a position if he is worse at it?

gixerfixer

leninbenjamin wrote: »

Why are people putting Lahm on the right? he's a left back.

Check out the offical Euro site.He's listed as both sided:)

Mr.Nice Guy

zepp wrote:

Janez Jansa current EU president and prime Minister of Solvenia has said that the EU lacks an identity and could do with something unifying like a soccer team.

For f*ck's sake. What is it with these guys? I would never support an 'EU' team. So sick of these sly, pathetic attempts to engineer an identity that simply doesn't exist.

zepp

menoscemo wrote: »

Just a minor bone of contention there. The Ryder cup is not an EU team, it is a European team. So is our football team going to be an exclusively EU one (i.e. no Russians, Serbs, Croats, norweguans etc) or a European one?

It would be just an EU team. The ryder cup was more an example of people supporting an non-national team. Also how many non-EU players have played in the Ryder cup?

menoscemo

zepp wrote: »

It would be just an EU team. The ryder cup was more an example of people supporting an non-national team. Also how many non-EU players have played in the Ryder cup?

All the spanish players who played pre 1986

dc69

Mr.Nice Guy wrote: »

For f*ck's sake. What is it with these guys? I would never support an 'EU' team. So sick of these sly, pathetic attempts to engineer an identity that simply doesn't exist.

At least it would be a team that represents us,we could cheer for and would no doubt make **** of any other team:)

Dont be at yourself

Terry isn't even the best centre-back at Chelsea.

Xavi6

Lol at the people picking Gattuso. He's finished, and is crap imo. Good for a yellow card and nothing else.

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Casillas

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Richards

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Puyol

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Carvalho

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Lahm

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Fabregas

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Xavi

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Sneijder

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Ronaldo

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Ribery

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Torres

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Subs:

Buffon
Ballack
Terry
Gerrard
Chivu
M. Petrov
Podolski
Van Nistelrooy

tolosenc

Ronaldinho's a naturalised Spaniard. Does he count? EU citizen and all...

hotspur

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Buffon

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Zambrotta

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Carvalho

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Nesta

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Clichy

Ronaldo

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Fabregas

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Sneijder

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Robben

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Berbatov

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Torres

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whatawaster

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Casillas

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Lahm

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Carvalho

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Cannevaro

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Evra

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De Rossi

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Fabregas

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Ronaldo

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Gerrard

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Benzema

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Torres

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Tough to choose between Benzema and Ribery.

PHB

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Casillas

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-Lahm--Ferdinand--Carvalho--Evra-
-Ronaldo-Fabregas-?????--???????-

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Torres---Van Nist

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Personally I think the rest of the team is self-evident, even though I could see some dispute over Casillas and Van Nist, but you can't deny their performances over the last two years. Casillas was Madrid's player of the season this year like!

As for center midfield, I was trying to think of some DMCs, Senna isn't really Spanish anymore than Ronaldinho is, in which case, both questions are answered.

So i'm going for Xavi, wee bit offensive but whatcha going to do Best DMC in the EU I'd say last year was Hargreaves.

For left wing, Robben I guess, he is just amazing, although never fit.

Mr Alan

PHB wrote: »

Casillas was Madrid's player of the season this year loike!

fixed that for you

and i'm gonna pretend you didnt pick Hargreaves over Mascherano!:eek:

whatawaster

Mr Alan wrote: »

and i'm gonna pretend you didnt pick Hargreaves over Mascherano!:eek:

Argentina is hardly in the EU. I just can't believe anyone wouldn't pick Gerrard.

redspider

> So who would be on your EU eleven.

But shouldnt it be an EU-27, with perhaps 11 on the pitch at any one time with the 16 subs rotating in and out and being guaranteed to play 10 mins out of every 15? ;-) Or just change the rules and let all 27 play?

So how about as an additional exercise listing the best player from each country out of all the EU-27, and not worry about whether they gel into a team or not:


IE: ?
DE: Ballack
ES: Torres
FR: ?
IT: Pirlo
NL: Van Der Sar ?
SE: Larsson
PT: Aveiro (legal surnames only!)
UK:
etc

Anyone know who is the best player from Lithuania?

Mr Alan

whatawaster wrote: »

Argentina is hardly in the EU. I just can't believe anyone wouldn't pick Gerrard.

oops, my bad!

Bubs101

redspider wrote: »

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Anyone know who is the best player from Lithuania?

They used to have a prety handy keeper but he may have retired by now

Pepe LeFrits

PHB wrote: »

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Casillas

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-Lahm--Ferdinand--Carvalho--Evra-
-Ronaldo-Fabregas-?????--???????-

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Torres---Van Nist

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Personally I think the rest of the team is self-evident, even though I could see some dispute over Casillas and Van Nist, but you can't deny their performances over the last two years. Casillas was Madrid's player of the season this year like!

As for center midfield, I was trying to think of some DMCs, Senna isn't really Spanish anymore than Ronaldinho is, in which case, both questions are answered.

So i'm going for Xavi, wee bit offensive but whatcha going to do Best DMC in the EU I'd say last year was Hargreaves.

For left wing, Robben I guess, he is just amazing, although never fit.

Senna plays for Spain, Ronaldinho plays for Brazil. That's the key difference.

Ribery or Sneijder over Robben for me.

thusspakeblixa

redspider wrote: »

Anyone know who is the best player from Lithuania?

Their keeper plays for Dinamo Moscow (Karcemarskas) he's not bad.
Mikolunas playing for Hearts and Jankauskas for Belenenses ain't bad either.
Latvia and Estonia may be tougher.
And apart from Mifsud Malta has nowt

Xavi6

thusspakeblixa wrote: »

And apart from Mifsud Malta has nowt

Ah but Gary Neville has a soccer school there now so it's only a matter of time! :pac:

Carcharodon

Is anyone else baffled by Lahms inclusion in alot of these teams, I haven't seen him play throughout the season but have seen all the games in this competition and he has gone back loads in my opinion.
He has been a bit of a weak link at the back since the start of the competition.

Nalz

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Buffon

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-Bowsingwa---Ferdinand----Cannavaro---Evra

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Gerrard

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Fabregas

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--Sneijder

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Ronaldo----

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Torres

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Rooney

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gixerfixer

Trilla wrote: »

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Buffon

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-Bowsingwa---Ferdinand----Cannavaro---Evra

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Gerrard

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Fabregas

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--Sneijder

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Ronaldo----

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Torres

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Rooney

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Rooney?? :rolleyes:

thusspakeblixa

Carcharodon wrote: »

Is anyone else baffled by Lahms inclusion in alot of these teams, I haven't seen him play throughout the season but have seen all the games in this competition and he has gone back loads in my opinion.
He has been a bit of a weak link at the back since the start of the competition.

Having seen him in the Bundesliga a fair bit (and believe me I hate to say this, he's a judas) he is solid for his club defensively and also contributes a fair bit going forward.
Great linking up with Podolski.

Nalz

gixerfixer wrote: »

Rooney?? :rolleyes:

Okay....what the FUUCK is wrong with havin Rooney there?

I like apple crumble

gixerfixer

Trilla wrote: »

Okay....what the FUUCK is wrong with havin Rooney there?

I like apple crumble

Listen i like the lad,he works hard for his team but to say he is one of the best two strikers in Europe is a tad well mad really.Anyway it's all about opinions.

Nalz

gixerfixer wrote: »

a tad well mad.

Rooney is one of the best player that plays in the hole imo. To call that mad well is a tad erm...insane.

thusspakeblixa

Right, on a boring train to Galway over the weekend, I thought about this.
The only way it would work would be if one player was chosen from each EU state to make a 27 man squad. I've put up a possible squad here (bearing in mind that it isn't necessarily the best player from each country)

Goalkeepers- Artur Boruc (Poland), Petr Cech (Czech Republic), Aleksandrs Kolinko (Latvia)
Defenders- Fabio Cannavaro (Italy), Carlos Puyol (Spain), Martin Stranzl (Austria), Daniel Van Buyten (Belgium), Ignas Dedura (Lithuania), Marek Cech (Slovakia), Giourkas Seitaridis (Greece), Cristian Chivu (Romania), Bostjan Cesar (Slovenia), Jeff Strasser (Luxembourg)
Midfielders- Michael Ballack (Germany), Steven Gerrard (UK), Cristiano Ronaldo (Portugal), Aiden McGeady (Republic of Ireland), Wesley Sneijder (Netherlands), Christian Wilhelmsson (Sweden), Mika Vaerynen (Finland), Zoltan Gera (Hungary)
Strikers- Karim Benzema (France), Dimitar Berbatov (Bulgaria), Ioannas Okkas (Cyprus), Michael Mifsud (Malta), Vladimir Vosbonnikov (Estonia), Martin Jorgensen (Denmark)

Possible Starting XI

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P.Cech

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Seitaridis--Cannavaro

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Puyol

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M.Cech
Sneijder---Gerrard

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Ballack

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Ronaldo

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Benzema

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Berbatov

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So the smaller nations generally wouldn't get a look in (just like in the political EU then :rolleyes:)


PS-sorry about the long post!

gaf1983

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Buffon

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Remi Gaillard (c)---Terry----Cannavaro---Lahm

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Sneijder

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Fabregas

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--Scweinsteiger

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Ronaldo

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Villa

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Benzema

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Manager:

Marco Van Basten

curry-muff

thusspakeblixa wrote: »

Right, on a boring train to Galway over the weekend, I thought about this.
The only way it would work would be if one player was chosen from each EU state to make a 27 man squad. I've put up a possible squad here (bearing in mind that it isn't necessarily the best player from each country)

Goalkeepers- Artur Boruc (Poland), Petr Cech (Czech Republic), Aleksandrs Kolinko (Latvia)
Defenders- Fabio Cannavaro (Italy), Carlos Puyol (Spain), Martin Stranzl (Austria), Daniel Van Buyten (Belgium), Ignas Dedura (Lithuania), Marek Cech (Slovakia), Giourkas Seitaridis (Greece), Cristian Chivu (Romania), Bostjan Cesar (Slovenia), Jeff Strasser (Luxembourg)
Midfielders- Michael Ballack (Germany), Steven Gerrard (UK), Cristiano Ronaldo (Portugal), Aiden McGeady (Republic of Ireland), Wesley Sneijder (Netherlands), Christian Wilhelmsson (Sweden), Mika Vaerynen (Finland), Zoltan Gera (Hungary)
Strikers- Karim Benzema (France), Dimitar Berbatov (Bulgaria), Ioannas Okkas (Cyprus), Michael Mifsud (Malta), Vladimir Vosbonnikov (Estonia), Martin Jorgensen (Denmark)

Possible Starting XI

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P.Cech

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Seitaridis--Cannavaro

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Puyol

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M.Cech
Sneijder---Gerrard

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Ballack

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Ronaldo

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Benzema

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Berbatov

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So the smaller nations generally wouldn't get a look in (just like in the political EU then :rolleyes:)


PS-sorry about the long post!

Best post yet IMO

thusspakeblixa

curry-muff wrote: »

Best post yet IMO

cheers.
If the UK was broken up I'd add
David Healy from Northern Ireland
Jason Koumas from Wales
Craig Gordon from Scotland
and if I'm at that, why not throw in
Alberto Lopo (Catalonia)
Asier Del Horno (Basque Country)
Borja (Galicia)
I may try and do a South American one now

thusspakeblixa

And here's the product of a night of boredom
my Americas Selection to play the EU XI. Same rules apply, one player from each country to make a 27 man squad. Was originally supposed to be solely South Americans but needed 27 countries.
Goalkeepers- Tim Howard (USA), Claudio Bravo (Chile), Donovan Ricketts (Jamaica)
Defenders- Roberto Rosales (Uruguay), Martin Hidalgo (Peru), Lorgio Alvarez (Bolivia), Rafael Marquez (Mexico), Roman Torres (Panama), Gustavo Cabrera (Guatemala), Marco Velez (Puerto Rico)
Midfielders- Kaka (Brazil), Cristian Rodriguez (Uruguay), Freddy Guarín (Colombia), Antonio Valencia (Ecuador), Shawn Beveney (Guyana), Clifton Sandvliet (Suriname), Yenier Marquez (Cuba), Julian De Guzman (Canada), Paul Ifill (Barbados)
Forwards- Lionel Messi (Argentina), Roque Santa Cruz (Paraguay), Kenwyne Jones (Trinidad & Tobago), Wilber Sanchez (Nicaragua), David Suazo (Honduras),Abel Thermeus (Haiti), Gonzalo Frechilla (Dominican Republic)

Starting XI

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Howard

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---Rosales

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Marquez

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Hidalgo

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De Guzman

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Valencia

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Guarín

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Messi

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Suazo

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Santa Cruz

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