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EU 11

  • 25-06-2008 2:34pm
    #1
    Closed Accounts Posts: 125 ✭✭


    We over on http://www.irishelection.com/ have been covering the fallout of the Lisbon Treaty and seeing what has been said b various people. Janez Jansa current EU president and prime Minister of Solvenia has said that the EU lacks an identity and could do with something unifying like a soccer team. So who would be on your EU eleven.

    Mine

    Casillas Spain
    Lahm (germany) Puyol (Spain) Terry(England) Evra (France)

    Fabragras (Spain) Gattaso(Italy) Gerard (England)

    Ronaldo(Portugal) Sneijder(Holland)
    Ibrahimovic(Sweden)

    Does not need to be based on Euro 2008 but have to be in EU.
    Also would you support an EU team. It works for the Ryder Cup.

    Guess the idea would be to play in an intercontinental tournament.
    For fun you can pick an African and South American 11. :)
    Also who would win.


Comments

  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,080 ✭✭✭✭Tusky


    I have just come here to say that Ibrahimovic is certainly not the best striker in the EU. Hes not even in the top 5 in my opinion!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 482 ✭✭Death or Glory


    Casper Ankergran

    Frazer Richardson
    Lubo Michalik
    Paul Huntington
    Bradley Johnson

    David Prutton
    Johnny Howson
    Jonathan Douglas
    Neil Kilkenny

    Jermaine Beckford
    Tresor Kandol

    ;)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 46,819 ✭✭✭✭Mitch Connor


    Casilas

    Lahm
    Ferdinand
    Canavaro
    Evra

    Xavi
    Fabregas
    Silva
    Ronaldo

    Torres
    van Nistlerooy

    Also, I don't think it would work.

    The ryder cup works because it is an invidual sport, put into a team environment, and it is spread over days of play. An EU team could only compete in exhibition matches which wouldn't mean anything.


  • Users Awaiting Email Confirmation Posts: 15,001 ✭✭✭✭Pepe LeFrits


    Buffon
    Evra
    Cannavaro
    Chiellini
    Sagna
    Senna
    Fabregas
    Sneijder
    Ronaldo
    Gerrard
    Torres


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,299 ✭✭✭CantGetNoSleep


    It would give us a great opportunity to hammer the chinks, dont think anyone would ever tire at that

    Eu v South America would be a cracking match though, and Africa would be good too


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,027 ✭✭✭✭titan18


    Theres a competition called the Meridian Cup.Its a match between a European under 18 team against the African under 18s


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 759 ✭✭✭gixerfixer


    Castilles
    Lahm
    Carvalio
    Cannavaro
    Grosso
    Xavi
    Gerrard
    Ballack
    C.Ronaldo
    Torres
    RVN


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 787 ✭✭✭bUILDERtHEbOB


    Cassillas
    Lahm, Carvalho, Cannavaro, Evra
    Xavi, Gattuso
    Gerrard, Fabragas, Sneijder
    Torres


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,488 ✭✭✭dc69



    Buffon
    -Lahm----Carvalho----Cannavaro---Evra
    Xavi---Fabregas

    Gerrard
    Ronaldo---
    Torres--Van Nistelrooy

    How Gatusso or Ibrahimovich could be in any eu 11 is ridicuous.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,478 ✭✭✭Bubs101



    Buffon

    Zambrotta----Terry/Ferdinand----Carvalho---Chivu

    Pirlo--Ballack---Xavi

    C. Ronaldo
    Sneijder

    Torres


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,910 ✭✭✭thusspakeblixa



    Casillas
    Lahm----Cannavaro
    Ferdinand
    Evra
    Ronaldo----Xavi
    Ballack
    Sneijder
    Torres
    Benzema


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 868 ✭✭✭tdv


    .......................Buffon......................

    Lahm............Nesta.....Vidic...........Evra

    ..............Xavi.............Iniesta..........

    J.Navas...................................Capel

    ..............Villa..............Benzema....


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,983 ✭✭✭leninbenjamin


    Why are people putting Lahm on the right? he's a left back.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 18,300 ✭✭✭✭Seaneh


    He's both footed.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,983 ✭✭✭leninbenjamin


    Seaneh wrote: »
    He's both footed.

    no, he's right footed. and he's operates a lot better on the left than he does the right.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13,915 ✭✭✭✭menoscemo


    zepp wrote: »
    Does not need to be based on Euro 2008 but have to be in EU.
    Also would you support an EU team. It works for the Ryder Cup.

    Just a minor bone of contention there. The Ryder cup is not an EU team, it is a European team. So is our football team going to be an exclusively EU one (i.e. no Russians, Serbs, Croats, norweguans etc) or a European one?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,875 ✭✭✭ShoulderChip


    no, he's right footed. and he's operates a lot better on the left than he does the right.

    no he operates a lot better on right back, his preferred position.

    why would he prefer a position if he is worse at it?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 759 ✭✭✭gixerfixer


    Why are people putting Lahm on the right? he's a left back.

    Check out the offical Euro site.He's listed as both sided:)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 45,640 ✭✭✭✭Mr.Nice Guy


    zepp wrote:
    Janez Jansa current EU president and prime Minister of Solvenia has said that the EU lacks an identity and could do with something unifying like a soccer team.

    For f*ck's sake. What is it with these guys? I would never support an 'EU' team. So sick of these sly, pathetic attempts to engineer an identity that simply doesn't exist.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 125 ✭✭zepp


    menoscemo wrote: »
    Just a minor bone of contention there. The Ryder cup is not an EU team, it is a European team. So is our football team going to be an exclusively EU one (i.e. no Russians, Serbs, Croats, norweguans etc) or a European one?

    It would be just an EU team. The ryder cup was more an example of people supporting an non-national team. Also how many non-EU players have played in the Ryder cup?


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13,915 ✭✭✭✭menoscemo


    zepp wrote: »
    It would be just an EU team. The ryder cup was more an example of people supporting an non-national team. Also how many non-EU players have played in the Ryder cup?

    All the spanish players who played pre 1986


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,488 ✭✭✭dc69


    For f*ck's sake. What is it with these guys? I would never support an 'EU' team. So sick of these sly, pathetic attempts to engineer an identity that simply doesn't exist.

    At least it would be a team that represents us,we could cheer for and would no doubt make **** of any other team:)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,592 ✭✭✭✭Dont be at yourself


    Terry isn't even the best centre-back at Chelsea.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,919 ✭✭✭✭Xavi6


    Lol at the people picking Gattuso. He's finished, and is crap imo. Good for a yellow card and nothing else.

    Casillas

    Richards
    Puyol
    Carvalho
    Lahm

    Fabregas

    Xavi
    Sneijder

    Ronaldo
    Ribery

    Torres

    Subs:

    Buffon
    Ballack
    Terry
    Gerrard
    Chivu
    M. Petrov
    Podolski
    Van Nistelrooy


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,889 ✭✭✭tolosenc


    Ronaldinho's a naturalised Spaniard. Does he count? EU citizen and all...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,328 ✭✭✭hotspur



    Buffon

    Zambrotta
    Carvalho
    Nesta
    Clichy

    Ronaldo
    Fabregas
    Sneijder
    Robben

    Berbatov
    Torres


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,910 ✭✭✭✭whatawaster



    Casillas

    Lahm
    Carvalho
    Cannevaro
    Evra

    De Rossi
    Fabregas

    Ronaldo
    Gerrard
    Benzema

    Torres


    Tough to choose between Benzema and Ribery.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,617 ✭✭✭✭PHB



    Casillas
    -Lahm--Ferdinand--Carvalho--Evra-
    -Ronaldo-Fabregas-?????--???????-
    Torres---Van Nist

    Personally I think the rest of the team is self-evident, even though I could see some dispute over Casillas and Van Nist, but you can't deny their performances over the last two years. Casillas was Madrid's player of the season this year like!

    As for center midfield, I was trying to think of some DMCs, Senna isn't really Spanish anymore than Ronaldinho is, in which case, both questions are answered.

    So i'm going for Xavi, wee bit offensive but whatcha going to do :) Best DMC in the EU I'd say last year was Hargreaves.

    For left wing, Robben I guess, he is just amazing, although never fit.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,372 ✭✭✭✭Mr Alan


    PHB wrote: »
    Casillas was Madrid's player of the season this year loike!

    fixed that for you ;)

    and i'm gonna pretend you didnt pick Hargreaves over Mascherano!:eek:


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,910 ✭✭✭✭whatawaster


    Mr Alan wrote: »

    and i'm gonna pretend you didnt pick Hargreaves over Mascherano!:eek:

    Argentina is hardly in the EU. I just can't believe anyone wouldn't pick Gerrard.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,544 ✭✭✭redspider


    > So who would be on your EU eleven.

    But shouldnt it be an EU-27, with perhaps 11 on the pitch at any one time with the 16 subs rotating in and out and being guaranteed to play 10 mins out of every 15? ;-) Or just change the rules and let all 27 play?

    So how about as an additional exercise listing the best player from each country out of all the EU-27, and not worry about whether they gel into a team or not:


    IE: ?
    DE: Ballack
    ES: Torres
    FR: ?
    IT: Pirlo
    NL: Van Der Sar ?
    SE: Larsson
    PT: Aveiro (legal surnames only!)
    UK:
    etc

    Anyone know who is the best player from Lithuania?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,372 ✭✭✭✭Mr Alan


    Argentina is hardly in the EU. I just can't believe anyone wouldn't pick Gerrard.

    oops, my bad! :p


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,478 ✭✭✭Bubs101


    redspider wrote: »
    >

    Anyone know who is the best player from Lithuania?

    They used to have a prety handy keeper but he may have retired by now


  • Users Awaiting Email Confirmation Posts: 15,001 ✭✭✭✭Pepe LeFrits


    PHB wrote: »

    Casillas
    -Lahm--Ferdinand--Carvalho--Evra-
    -Ronaldo-Fabregas-?????--???????-
    Torres---Van Nist

    Personally I think the rest of the team is self-evident, even though I could see some dispute over Casillas and Van Nist, but you can't deny their performances over the last two years. Casillas was Madrid's player of the season this year like!

    As for center midfield, I was trying to think of some DMCs, Senna isn't really Spanish anymore than Ronaldinho is, in which case, both questions are answered.

    So i'm going for Xavi, wee bit offensive but whatcha going to do :) Best DMC in the EU I'd say last year was Hargreaves.

    For left wing, Robben I guess, he is just amazing, although never fit.
    Senna plays for Spain, Ronaldinho plays for Brazil. That's the key difference.

    Ribery or Sneijder over Robben for me.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,910 ✭✭✭thusspakeblixa


    redspider wrote: »

    Anyone know who is the best player from Lithuania?
    Their keeper plays for Dinamo Moscow (Karcemarskas) he's not bad.
    Mikolunas playing for Hearts and Jankauskas for Belenenses ain't bad either.
    Latvia and Estonia may be tougher.
    And apart from Mifsud Malta has nowt


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,919 ✭✭✭✭Xavi6


    And apart from Mifsud Malta has nowt

    Ah but Gary Neville has a soccer school there now so it's only a matter of time! :pac:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,028 ✭✭✭Carcharodon


    Is anyone else baffled by Lahms inclusion in alot of these teams, I haven't seen him play throughout the season but have seen all the games in this competition and he has gone back loads in my opinion.
    He has been a bit of a weak link at the back since the start of the competition.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,890 ✭✭✭✭Nalz



    Buffon
    -Bowsingwa---Ferdinand----Cannavaro---Evra
    Gerrard
    Fabregas
    --Sneijder
    Ronaldo----
    Torres
    Rooney


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 759 ✭✭✭gixerfixer


    Trilla wrote: »

    Buffon
    -Bowsingwa---Ferdinand----Cannavaro---Evra
    Gerrard
    Fabregas
    --Sneijder
    Ronaldo----
    Torres
    Rooney

    Rooney?? :rolleyes:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,910 ✭✭✭thusspakeblixa


    Is anyone else baffled by Lahms inclusion in alot of these teams, I haven't seen him play throughout the season but have seen all the games in this competition and he has gone back loads in my opinion.
    He has been a bit of a weak link at the back since the start of the competition.
    Having seen him in the Bundesliga a fair bit (and believe me I hate to say this, he's a judas) he is solid for his club defensively and also contributes a fair bit going forward.
    Great linking up with Podolski.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,890 ✭✭✭✭Nalz


    gixerfixer wrote: »
    Rooney?? :rolleyes:

    Okay....what the FUUCK is wrong with havin Rooney there?

    I like apple crumble


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 759 ✭✭✭gixerfixer


    Trilla wrote: »
    Okay....what the FUUCK is wrong with havin Rooney there?

    I like apple crumble

    Listen i like the lad,he works hard for his team but to say he is one of the best two strikers in Europe is a tad well mad really.Anyway it's all about opinions.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,890 ✭✭✭✭Nalz


    gixerfixer wrote: »
    a tad well mad.

    Rooney is one of the best player that plays in the hole imo. To call that mad well is a tad erm...insane.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,910 ✭✭✭thusspakeblixa


    Right, on a boring train to Galway over the weekend, I thought about this.
    The only way it would work would be if one player was chosen from each EU state to make a 27 man squad. I've put up a possible squad here (bearing in mind that it isn't necessarily the best player from each country)

    Goalkeepers- Artur Boruc (Poland), Petr Cech (Czech Republic), Aleksandrs Kolinko (Latvia)
    Defenders- Fabio Cannavaro (Italy), Carlos Puyol (Spain), Martin Stranzl (Austria), Daniel Van Buyten (Belgium), Ignas Dedura (Lithuania), Marek Cech (Slovakia), Giourkas Seitaridis (Greece), Cristian Chivu (Romania), Bostjan Cesar (Slovenia), Jeff Strasser (Luxembourg)
    Midfielders- Michael Ballack (Germany), Steven Gerrard (UK), Cristiano Ronaldo (Portugal), Aiden McGeady (Republic of Ireland), Wesley Sneijder (Netherlands), Christian Wilhelmsson (Sweden), Mika Vaerynen (Finland), Zoltan Gera (Hungary)
    Strikers- Karim Benzema (France), Dimitar Berbatov (Bulgaria), Ioannas Okkas (Cyprus), Michael Mifsud (Malta), Vladimir Vosbonnikov (Estonia), Martin Jorgensen (Denmark)

    Possible Starting XI
    P.Cech
    Seitaridis--Cannavaro
    Puyol
    M.Cech
    Sneijder---Gerrard
    Ballack
    Ronaldo
    Benzema
    Berbatov

    So the smaller nations generally wouldn't get a look in (just like in the political EU then :rolleyes:)


    PS-sorry about the long post!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,210 ✭✭✭gaf1983



    Buffon
    Remi Gaillard (c)---Terry----Cannavaro---Lahm
    Sneijder
    Fabregas
    --Scweinsteiger
    Ronaldo
    Villa
    Benzema

    Manager:

    Marco Van Basten


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,418 ✭✭✭curry-muff


    Right, on a boring train to Galway over the weekend, I thought about this.
    The only way it would work would be if one player was chosen from each EU state to make a 27 man squad. I've put up a possible squad here (bearing in mind that it isn't necessarily the best player from each country)

    Goalkeepers- Artur Boruc (Poland), Petr Cech (Czech Republic), Aleksandrs Kolinko (Latvia)
    Defenders- Fabio Cannavaro (Italy), Carlos Puyol (Spain), Martin Stranzl (Austria), Daniel Van Buyten (Belgium), Ignas Dedura (Lithuania), Marek Cech (Slovakia), Giourkas Seitaridis (Greece), Cristian Chivu (Romania), Bostjan Cesar (Slovenia), Jeff Strasser (Luxembourg)
    Midfielders- Michael Ballack (Germany), Steven Gerrard (UK), Cristiano Ronaldo (Portugal), Aiden McGeady (Republic of Ireland), Wesley Sneijder (Netherlands), Christian Wilhelmsson (Sweden), Mika Vaerynen (Finland), Zoltan Gera (Hungary)
    Strikers- Karim Benzema (France), Dimitar Berbatov (Bulgaria), Ioannas Okkas (Cyprus), Michael Mifsud (Malta), Vladimir Vosbonnikov (Estonia), Martin Jorgensen (Denmark)

    Possible Starting XI
    P.Cech
    Seitaridis--Cannavaro
    Puyol
    M.Cech
    Sneijder---Gerrard
    Ballack
    Ronaldo
    Benzema
    Berbatov

    So the smaller nations generally wouldn't get a look in (just like in the political EU then :rolleyes:)


    PS-sorry about the long post!

    Best post yet IMO


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,910 ✭✭✭thusspakeblixa


    curry-muff wrote: »
    Best post yet IMO
    cheers.
    If the UK was broken up I'd add
    David Healy from Northern Ireland
    Jason Koumas from Wales
    Craig Gordon from Scotland
    and if I'm at that, why not throw in
    Alberto Lopo (Catalonia)
    Asier Del Horno (Basque Country)
    Borja (Galicia)
    I may try and do a South American one now :p


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,910 ✭✭✭thusspakeblixa


    And here's the product of a night of boredom
    my Americas Selection to play the EU XI. Same rules apply, one player from each country to make a 27 man squad. Was originally supposed to be solely South Americans but needed 27 countries.
    Goalkeepers- Tim Howard (USA), Claudio Bravo (Chile), Donovan Ricketts (Jamaica)
    Defenders- Roberto Rosales (Uruguay), Martin Hidalgo (Peru), Lorgio Alvarez (Bolivia), Rafael Marquez (Mexico), Roman Torres (Panama), Gustavo Cabrera (Guatemala), Marco Velez (Puerto Rico)
    Midfielders- Kaka (Brazil), Cristian Rodriguez (Uruguay), Freddy Guarín (Colombia), Antonio Valencia (Ecuador), Shawn Beveney (Guyana), Clifton Sandvliet (Suriname), Yenier Marquez (Cuba), Julian De Guzman (Canada), Paul Ifill (Barbados)
    Forwards- Lionel Messi (Argentina), Roque Santa Cruz (Paraguay), Kenwyne Jones (Trinidad & Tobago), Wilber Sanchez (Nicaragua), David Suazo (Honduras),Abel Thermeus (Haiti), Gonzalo Frechilla (Dominican Republic)

    Starting XI

    Howard
    ---Rosales
    Marquez
    Hidalgo

    De Guzman

    Valencia
    Guarín
    Messi
    Suazo
    Santa Cruz


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