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Rather belated - Heads of Bill for Civil Unions

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  • #2
    who is this
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 500 ✭✭✭who is this


    Wow yeah I know. Years after the rest of Europe they finally come up with this revolutionary bill which will be inferior to the provisions of most other places.

    I'm so impressed. I can see the Greens certainly fought for this

    (The sarcasm isn't an attack on you, just on the idea that this should be acceptable)

    But seriously. This is ridiculous. There is NOTHING even REMOTELY contentious in it. These are proposals that EVERY elected party supported at the very least. So what exactly DID the Greens do? They were "seeking to maximise its contents"? Bull. I don't see one thing in it that Fianna Fáil wouldn't have agreed amongst themselves.

    And this: http://www.rte.ie/news/2008/0624/marriage.html
    The final drafting of the legislation is expected to take several months, but Minister for Justice Dermot Ahern said he would think it could be law by this time next year.

    Dermot Ahern WOULD think it COULD be law by this time next year? These heads were GUARANTEED for this March. So when can we expect this? 2011?

    Let's just hope we can count on Sinn Féin and Labour to attack the inadequacies in it, (hopefully to some avail) since the in-government Greens have seemingly contributed nothing, and they certainly won't attack a government bill. Who knows maybe even Fine Gael will say its inadequate (just to attack the government of course - their own proposals on their manifesto were no better)


  • #3
    WexfordMusings
    Closed Accounts Posts: 170 ✭✭WexfordMusings


    From what I hear, the greens will not support the FF bill.

    Also, it was great in Wexford on Friday when Senator Norris berated the FF party and Senator Lisa Simpson on their failure. I'm sure that Labour are not going to let it lie either.

    John


  • #4
    who is this
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 500 ✭✭✭who is this


    Not support as in vote AGAINST it? Or not support as in say "yes we know it's shouldn't be good enough. But it'll have to be"? Do you have a link with more info maybe? RTÉ says
    ... Minister Eamon Ryan said the Green Party were pleased to see the proposed legislation [...] although he acknowledged that his party had wanted to go further.

    Also, for anyone interested here are the actual heads of the bill. It runs to 197 pages so you might wanna look through the index first. Not exactly bedtime reading, but it is readable and comprehensible to a normal person.

    Two changes of note from what was being rumoured:
    1. "Dissolution" does not mimic divorce as some had expected (thankfully). The requirment is seperation for 2 out of previous 3 years. (Marked page 74, or PDF page 75) Which is only fair - you can't impose the same responsibilities when the rights are unequal.
    2. Immigration rights are included and mimic marriage. I only saw once that this might not be included (can't remember where), but it is. (Marked page 39, PDF page 40)


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