Good Etiquette

Mister Sifter

http://www.todaysgolfer.co.uk/Golf/News/searchresults/June-08/The-RA-and-Padraig-Harrington-release-etiquette-film/

rigal

Good video. Interesting fact about the pitch marks - wish more people repaired theirs...

A.Partridge

Mods...is itpossible to make this sticky?

Kimbot

rigal wrote: »

Good video. Interesting fact about the pitch marks - wish more people repaired theirs...

I have seen a load of un-repaired marks on the course and repaired them myself. Its a pain but you would think people would know how to do it right.

callaway92

Why in Gods almighty name would this be made sticky...Ill eat my hair if this is made sticky

jampotjim

jonny24ie wrote: »

I have seen a load of un-repaired marks on the course and repaired them myself. Its a pain but you would think people would know how to do it right.

I am the same... On City wqest championship course I would find numerous pitch marks on every green just left there... Is a major hate of mine as in my opinion if you are good enough to make a pitch mark you are good enough to repair it..

copacetic

good link, but there won't be any need for hair eating.


(although for a few bob I'd sticky it for the say just to hear how that goes)

callaway92

I take back what I said so:o..Just so I can keep my hair

Tipperman

jampotjim wrote: »

I am the same... On City wqest championship course I would find numerous pitch marks on every green just left there... Is a major hate of mine as in my opinion if you are good enough to make a pitch mark you are good enough to repair it..

The thing I sometimes find is that players don't repair the pitch marks properly.. This is even worse as it takes even more time for the green to recover...

It is a simple thing to do right but players are don't give a damn and then have the nerve to give out about the standard of their greens:mad:

DishonestPikey

Tipperman wrote: »

The thing I sometimes find is that players don't repair the pitch marks properly.. This is even worse as it takes even more time for the green to recover...

It is a simple thing to do right but players are don't give a damn and then have the nerve to give out about the standard of their greens:mad:

As a fresh newbie I have to admit I didn't know it was part of etiquette. If I hack out a chunk of grass of course I would put it back and heal it in, but as for it being part of etiquette or as regards to there being a correct way of doing it I have to say I think its a bit over the top. It costs a lot of money to play a round of golf, you'd expect this to fall under maintenance.

Another thing as a beginner that I find annoying when people call it etiquette is the pace of the game. God I'd love to be able to rush around the course and still play well, unfortunately I'm a beginner and rather than hack the ball around (and hack the fairway to bits) I prefer to take my time and concentrate on what I'm doing. One day I hope it will all come naturally to me and I can speed around the course, until then I've paid the same money as you have, a lot of bloody money and I'll take as long as it takes....within reason of course.

I think people who have a problem with stuff like this shouldn't play on courses where you find beginners.

Mister Sifter

DishonestPikey wrote: »

As a fresh newbie I have to admit I didn't know it was part of etiquette. If I hack out a chunk of grass of course I would put it back and heal it in, but as for it being part of etiquette or as regards to there being a correct way of doing it I have to say I think its a bit over the top. It costs a lot of money to play a round of golf, you'd expect this to fall under maintenance.

As it shows in the video, a pitch mark needs to be repaired asap to stop it from scarring the green for weeks. It's not over the top at all. All golfers, good or bad, want to play on nice courses and on good greens. Play your small part. Not too much to ask surely?

It does fall under maintenance. Greenkeepers will generally fix pitch marks when they cut the greens each day. However, by then it's too late and it'll take a couple of weeks for the mark to disappear.

It's not over the top at all. It takes just a few seconds to repair your mark before you putt. As you say, people pay alot of money to play golf, the least you can do is take a few seconds out to make sure that everyone gets to play a course in good condition. Frankly i find your attitude very, very selfish.

DishonestPikey wrote: »

Another thing as a beginner that I find annoying when people call it etiquette is the pace of the game. God I'd love to be able to rush around the course and still play well, unfortunately I'm a beginner and rather than hack the ball around (and hack the fairway to bits) I prefer to take my time and concentrate on what I'm doing. One day I hope it will all come naturally to me and I can speed around the course, until then I've paid the same money as you have, a lot of bloody money and I'll take as long as it takes....within reason of course. I think people who have a problem with stuff like this shouldn't play on courses where you find beginners.

As long as you are courteous to other golfers then fair enough. If you want to take your time that's fair enough, but at least have the decency to let others play past you and to play at the speed they want to play at.

Virtually every course will have early stage golfers playing. I doubt any golfer would object to them doing so. At the same time, I don't think people who object to the rules and etiquette of the game should play the game at all.

ShriekingSheet

DishonestPikey wrote: »

As a fresh newbie I have to admit I didn't know it was part of etiquette. If I hack out a chunk of grass of course I would put it back and heal it in, but as for it being part of etiquette or as regards to there being a correct way of doing it I have to say I think its a bit over the top. It costs a lot of money to play a round of golf, you'd expect this to fall under maintenance.

Another thing as a beginner that I find annoying when people call it etiquette is the pace of the game. God I'd love to be able to rush around the course and still play well, unfortunately I'm a beginner and rather than hack the ball around (and hack the fairway to bits) I prefer to take my time and concentrate on what I'm doing. One day I hope it will all come naturally to me and I can speed around the course, until then I've paid the same money as you have, a lot of bloody money and I'll take as long as it takes....within reason of course.

I think people who have a problem with stuff like this shouldn't play on courses where you find beginners.

Divots = chuncks out of the fairway you take with an iron shot.

You put the sod back in the divot and stamp it in - job done.

Pitch-marks = dents in the green made when high shot lands on the green.

A freshly made pitch-mark takes less than 10 seconds to repair properly. A pitchmark left for a few hours in the sun hardens and becomes a brown dent in the green that's difficult to repair and will require rain/watering and growth to heal.

As you said, we all pay a lot of money to play golf. And for the money I've paid, I'd rather not have to putt over your pitch marks for the sake of 10 seconds of your time.

Expecting this to fall under "maintanence" is ridiculous. If Tiger Woods repairs his own pitch-marks you can to.



As regards pace of play, the only people who "rush" around a course are those, some may call them nutters, who play at 7am and get around in 3 hours. That's their bag and let them at it.

You may see usual golfers a rushing compared to yourself but the fact is that non-beginners are quicker because they have learned the little tricks of the trade that keep play moving such as leaving your bag on the side of the green en route to the next tee - not having to drag it around the far side and back around again. Lining up your shot while your mate hits, not waiting for him to finish before you start lining up yours. And also not dwelling over shots too long as spending too long mostly just tenses you up and you play worse.

You're not expected to know this as a beginner but your remarks that "everyone else is rushing and I'm not going to" are way off to be honest. I'm just saying that the best thing you could do is play with golfers with a bit of experience and pick up little bits of how things work by watching them. If someone asks you to speed up, don't take it to heart, or let it ruin your game, just speed up between shots and then take your time to hit the shot itself.

fireplace1982

Nothing in golf is more annoying, other than silly trousers, than bad etiquette. Replacing fairway divots, slow play, pitch repairs or my favourite... not raking bunkers. It is a part of the game. Golf has many complicated and obtuse rules that must be adhered to but the basic etiquette takes five minutes to learn and any beginner should take the time to do it.

A few years ago I played a round of golf with a girl i was working with in Norway. She told me she had just passed her exam, upon asking her what she was talking about she informed me that in her club in Norway, as is the case in most clubs, you must pass a written theory test before you are allowed to swing a club on the course. The test is basic and covers rules of etiquette. This test is not for playing the Norweigan equivalent of the K Club, just your standard 30 euro green fee club.

Im not saying this would ever work here, but if other countries are introducing mandatory etiquette awareness the least we can do is encourage beginners to read the A4 sized sheet in most clubhouses explaining the etiquette expected in the course. Etiquette is just that and should be expected whether playing grange castle or killeen castle. The quality of the course should have no bearing, thats like saying poor people dont know what etiquette is! Ignorance is no excuse. Here endeth the rant, im off to beat the wife.

BunkerMentality

fireplace1982 wrote: »

A few years ago I played a round of golf with a girl i was working with in Norway. She told me she had just passed her exam, upon asking her what she was talking about she informed me that in her club in Norway, as is the case in most clubs, you must pass a written theory test before you are allowed to swing a club on the course. The test is basic and covers rules of etiquette. This test is not for playing the Norweigan equivalent of the K Club, just your standard 30 euro green fee club.

The same is true in Sweden... you need like a golfing license that involves a written test (to cover rules and etiquette) and a playing test

DishonestPikey

OK I'm not going to argue with experienced players! Clearly I've a lot to learn. I don't see that video it must be blocked I'll take a look when I get home.

fireplace1982

I believe you dishonestpikey

A.Partridge

fireplace1982 wrote: »

A few years ago I played a round of golf with a girl i was working with in Norway. She told me she had just passed her exam, upon asking her what she was talking about she informed me that in her club in Norway, as is the case in most clubs, you must pass a written theory test before you are allowed to swing a club on the course. The test is basic and covers rules of etiquette. This test is not for playing the Norweigan equivalent of the K Club, just your standard 30 euro green fee club.

Shush for Christ's sake! :eek:

(Pssst, If Noel Dempsey hears that, we'll all have to become provisional golf licence holders and there will be a 10 week waiting list to sit your golf theory test plus an eyesight test, plus a semen analysis test etc etc)

Please everyone just apply common sense and courtesy and we won't need to have any more Nanny-State measures to spoil the quality of our (golfing) life.

fireplace1982

thing about common sense.... not that common

rigal

fireplace1982 wrote: »

A few years ago I played a round of golf with a girl i was working with in Norway. She told me she had just passed her exam, upon asking her what she was talking about she informed me that in her club in Norway, as is the case in most clubs, you must pass a written theory test before you are allowed to swing a club on the course. The test is basic and covers rules of etiquette. This test is not for playing the Norweigan equivalent of the K Club, just your standard 30 euro green fee club.

That's interesting. Didn't realise this (theory tests) had actualy been implemented anywhere. We were talking about it a while back:

http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2055275273&page=2

I still reckon it would be a good thing over here.

A.Partridge

rigal wrote: »

That's interesting. Didn't realise this (theory tests) had actualy been implemented anywhere. We were talking about it a while back:

http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2055275273&page=2

I still reckon it would be a good thing over here.

I said shuuuuush!

rigal

A.Partridge wrote: »

I said shuuuuush!

I heard you the first time...