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Recommend a good Intel chipset mobo for a E8500

  • 23-06-2008 12:47pm
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,067 ✭✭✭


    Blew my 680i a few weeks back and its been the final nail in the coffin with my experience with the Nvidia chipset.

    I don't really care about SLI, I'll be sticking with single gfx card setups for the foreseeable future. So what Intel chipset mobo should I go for? I'll be installing 4GB of DDR2 PC2-8000 RAM and an E8500.

    Looking for one that will be excellent for overclocking and easily watercooled.

    All help appreciated, i'll rep+ accordingly ;)


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 146 ✭✭somakasvh


    I couldn't recommend the asus x38 boards more. I've built, watercooled and overclocked a machine with a maximus formula. and in my own machine I have a P5E which i've flashed to a rampage formula (for lots of extra bios/mobo tweaks).

    I can get a 480FSB without even trying with a quad, so i imagine you could get higher with a dual


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,067 ✭✭✭L31mr0d


    somakasvh wrote: »
    I couldn't recommend the asus x38 boards more. I've built, watercooled and overclocked a machine with a maximus formula. and in my own machine I have a P5E which i've flashed to a rampage formula (for lots of extra bios/mobo tweaks).

    I can get a 480FSB without even trying with a quad, so i imagine you could get higher with a dual

    cheers, I'll start reading up about that board. Would it be better to just buy the rampage formula though? Apart from the extra BIOS features is there any other benefits to it?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13,874 ✭✭✭✭PogMoThoin


    I really love asus mobo's, got a P5k Deluxe, can't recommend them highly enough and the failed OC feature on their boards means u never ever need to clear cmos. Since you got a c2d tho, not a quad a p35 board would oc just as high. Just my 2c.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 592 ✭✭✭TonyM.


    I went the same route a few weeks ago with the Asus Maximus Extreme and Flaccus gave me a good deal on a qx9650 the watercooler on the chipset was the deciding factor for me.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,357 ✭✭✭papu


    best boards for clocking penryns supposedly are the P965 and P45 boards

    the Asus Commando 965 has gotten a 630fsb with mods on a e8500 thats 6017mhz

    the Asus Maximus 2 Formula P45 is also a very good clocker with someone gettign a 670 Fsb 5.3ghz

    biostar p45 also good but might be a bit pricey

    so really have a look around
    Xtreme Overclocking
    and the intel section and see what people say :D
    http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=59


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  • Subscribers Posts: 6,408 ✭✭✭conzy


    I was going to get the Asus P5Q-E for my next build until Komplett gave me a free Abit IP35-Pro :p

    The Asus is a great board with great features and people get savage overclocks from it, 622mhz fsb with an E8200

    378621.png

    There is a deluxe version too if you have money to burn ;)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,067 ✭✭✭L31mr0d


    TonyM. wrote: »
    Asus Maximus Extreme... the watercooler on the chipset was the deciding factor for me.

    same here :eek: think that included waterblock on the chipset is the clincher for me. Cheers for that.

    boardmain.jpg


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 12,401 ✭✭✭✭Anti


    if thats all thats gonna be watercooled its fine, but add a cpu and gfx block and the chipset block is where you will encounter real flow rate problems as its meant to be pretty restrictive. But saying that there are a few ppl on XS that can make full custom blocks for that board.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 146 ✭✭somakasvh


    I was using the non-SE version of the maximus formula, so I just removed the heatpipe and fit a waterblock

    Its handy because the heatpipe is just glued to the SB heatsink and attached to the VRM heatsink with a thermal pad.
    So I didn't need to buy aftermarket cooling for them


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 146 ✭✭somakasvh


    L31mr0d wrote: »
    same here :eek: think that included waterblock on the chipset is the clincher for me. Cheers for that.

    http://images.anandtech.com/reviews/motherboards/2007/asus-max-extreme-p1/boardmain.jpg

    Thats the maximus extreme - it uses DDR3


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,227 ✭✭✭awhir


    somakasvh wrote: »
    Thats the maximus extreme - it uses DDR3

    was just about to say that :p

    go retro p965 cammando ftw !


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 592 ✭✭✭TonyM.


    somakasvh wrote: »
    Thats the maximus extreme - it uses DDR3

    2 gb. of Corsair ddr3 pc12800 at 1600mhz cost me €149.00 prices are coming down.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 12,401 ✭✭✭✭Anti


    2gig isnt enough these days. especially for vista 4gb minimum.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,357 ✭✭✭papu


    its ass cheap anyways


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 12,401 ✭✭✭✭Anti


    somakasvh wrote: »
    I was using the non-SE version of the maximus formula, so I just removed the heatpipe and fit a waterblock

    Its handy because the heatpipe is just glued to the SB heatsink and attached to the VRM heatsink with a thermal pad.
    So I didn't need to buy aftermarket cooling for them


    There is a fair ammount of custom blocks for everythign on the board.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 592 ✭✭✭TonyM.


    Anti wrote: »
    2gig isnt enough these days. especially for vista 4gb minimum.

    I have XPpro on one hard disc and Vista on another I need XP to run some old programmes and the drivers all work, if I install the other 2gb of ram i will only be able to boot into Vista.


  • Moderators, Education Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 35,125 Mod ✭✭✭✭AlmightyCushion


    TonyM. wrote: »
    I have XPpro on one hard disc and Vista on another I need XP to run some old programmes and the drivers all work, if I install the other 2gb of ram i will only be able to boot into Vista.
    No, you can still use xp but it won't use all the ram installed.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 592 ✭✭✭TonyM.


    No, you can still use xp but it won't use all the ram installed.

    really i understood you needed the 64 bit version for 4gb of ram .


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,357 ✭✭✭papu


    TonyM. wrote: »
    really i understood you needed the 64 bit version for 4gb of ram .

    it will only see something like 3.somthing gigs of ram depending on the Vram you graphics card has , it will boot ito XP , it just won't be able to address/use all of it


  • Moderators, Education Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 35,125 Mod ✭✭✭✭AlmightyCushion


    TonyM. wrote: »
    really i understood you needed the 64 bit version for 4gb of ram .
    You need a 64 bit os to use all the ram. You could gladly have 8GBs of ram on a computer with a 32 bit os but it wouldn't use any more than 4GBs (well it's actually closer to 3.25GBs), it will still run though and still use the 3.25GBs available to it.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 592 ✭✭✭TonyM.


    well 3gb is 50% more i must get it the timings are 7-7-7-20

    btw i have a 80mm fan set up over the heatpipes to cool the board.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 146 ✭✭somakasvh


    The OP already said he has 4gigs of DDR2 so it doesnt matter how much xGB of DDR3 is


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,067 ✭✭✭L31mr0d


    aren't all DDR3 boards backwards compatible with DDR2?

    The restrictive flow of that waterblock could actually be a problem. If I wanted to cool the NB and SB with 3rd party blocks what board should I go for? I'd like to have the option of upgrading to DD3 or a Q9xxx quad in the future?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,357 ✭✭✭papu


    no ddr2 wont work on ddr3 boards , but with nahelem and that using ddr3 , investing in some now might bring benefits in the future , sure you'll have to get another motherboard and cpu , but the ram will still be good , so maybe go the cheapo option now and save some money for nahelem? which should be around before the end of the year?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,067 ✭✭✭L31mr0d


    papu wrote: »
    no ddr2 wont work on ddr3 boards

    dammit :o I was sure i'd read somewhere that it would be backwards compatible, but upon reading up on it you're right.

    So for DDR2, what would be the best intel chipset board to get? Not really looking into getting DDR3 atm. I really just want to build a stable, overclockable, watercooled system for the time being, I'm doing most of my gaming on my HTPC and PS3.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 592 ✭✭✭TonyM.


    I would vote for the Asus P5Q Deluxe give the P45 chipset a go.


    Check out the "express gate" option.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,067 ✭✭✭L31mr0d


    think i'm going to go for the Rampage Formula. Been reading good things about it and it also supports DDR2.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 592 ✭✭✭TonyM.




  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,528 ✭✭✭OK-Cancel-Apply


    L31mr0d wrote: »
    Blew my 680i a few weeks back and its been the final nail in the coffin with my experience with the Nvidia chipset.


    What problems were you having with your nvidia chipset?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,067 ✭✭✭L31mr0d


    What problems were you having with your nvidia chipset?

    There's a very bad design flaw in the NB, it doesn't work when you chip a big chunk off the corner of it. Typical of nvidia :rolleyes: :D


  • Moderators, Education Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 35,125 Mod ✭✭✭✭AlmightyCushion


    L31mr0d wrote: »
    There's a very bad design flaw in the NB, it doesn't work when you chip a big chunk off the corner of it. Typical of nvidia :rolleyes: :D
    Jesus, you should lose that chip on your shoulder.

    Edit: Just realised that's a double pun. The chip on the northbridge and chipset.

    Edit 2: It's actually a triple pun if you consider that a cpu is sometimes referred to as a chip. :pac:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,525 ✭✭✭DanGerMus


    Good God Almighty. major pwunage man.

    Anyway i need a new board for my e8400 (i corrupted my ds3). Really like the look of this rampage think i'll go for it too. People getting 4ghz+ without any difficulty even on air i'll be wc it so should be fun.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,528 ✭✭✭OK-Cancel-Apply


    L31mr0d wrote: »
    There's a very bad design flaw in the NB, it doesn't work when you chip a big chunk off the corner of it. Typical of nvidia :rolleyes: :D

    LOL ah right. :) It's just that I've been epic issues with my system and I'm trying to rule out different components.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 592 ✭✭✭TonyM.




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